I have been hearing about a revolution if the elections are

[blues90]

Stolen once again .

We did nothing the last two times , why would this time be any different .

I know people have had enough of alot of these horrors tossed upon us destroying so very many things yet we have not hit the streets in great numbers .

Is it the massive force of protection that surrounds the white house and the capital building along with the knowledge that protestors are viewed as a threat due to all of the bush administrations special directives that allow them to gather up protestors and haul them off to who knows where that will prevent people from a peaceful revolution ?

What are the thought's of others here , do you think because there are so many new young voters that there is now a chance to have more people out in the streets ?

I bring this up because young people were part of the protests in the last few years however we never got enough people young or old before to have any effect .

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

1. No....

Dont think youll see a revolution unless something is *really* indisputable shortly after the election. Americans have a *very* short attention span..

[Cleita]

2. If there are any dedicated revolutionaries out there, now is

the time to do it when the various National Guards are overseas. I'm not saying it's the best thing to do but if those people want to cut their losses down it would be now.

I personally am more in favor of an intellectual revolution in taking our country back to the rule of the Constitution. This we do by word and stealth actions, not pitchfork and torches.

[Myrina]

3. Difficult to have an intellectual revolution when ...

... more people are concerned about the outcome of American Idol or watching the Daytona 500 than give a rat's ass enough about the Presidential Primaries.

Us pointy-headed intellectuals have been way too successfully marginalized by the Limbaughs and Jerry Springers' of the world.

:(

[blues90]

4. I see an intellectual revolution just as futile as any kind

I am certainly not about to go for pitch forks and torches or any other form of violent acts . I know well that even if there were 3 million people outside the capital building that they won't listen anyway as they have proven in the past attempts .

It looks like a long time gone trying to change the corporate controlled government . Not that it's not possible , I just don't see it anytime soon .

[originalpckelly]

9. We are having a revolution of thought, and violence would only undermine it.

People should freely think and come to their own conclusions, no one should force them to think any particular way.

[griffi94]

5. not a chance

that real revolution in the streets thing comes when there's not enough to eat...not enough medicine...shelter...clothing....space to stand.....we have all those things...at least to enough of a degree that the masses won't revolt....besides it's a new season of survivor....american idol too.
the vast majority of americans are pretty intolerant of stuff like that.

[peacetalksforall]

6. If there are revolution talks - it should be a two sided approach -

.. one for stolen votes
.. another for the declaration of martial law and the closing down of voting (under the guise of national security or some such lie)

Though some on DU have been showing us how martial law is somewhat in effect right now - it could get worse. There could be many forms to the declaration.

I think the people who are in charge of stealing the earth from under our noses are desperate (maybe I should just say keenly anxious) to hold onto what they stole.

I think the chances of martial law are more plausible in their minds because it is going to be difficult to hide the vote thefts. Declaring martial law is a total theft. No machines - no pretensions with the corporate networks and pretend polling and analysis. No mention of Diebold, ES & S. Whether or not they can get enough to believe them. Something new. A final attempt by them to try to scare the heck out of this.

[dmallind]

7. Ya know one of the few things that gives me great hope and comfort

In these, the darkest political days of my life in this country (I'm not all that young but was an immigrant in 1990), is that both left and right wing activists are making noises about revolution because it's not fair to them. That at least tells me, despite some significant evidence, that things aren't quite that badly gone towards the theocratic plutocracy side yet.

[originalpckelly]

8. The revolution is already happening.

We are a small part of something much larger that is occurring, and it is totally disorganized. No one person or group is controlling it. It's just a revolution in human understanding prompted by the ability to exchange information more freely than any other time in history. We just don't see what's going on for what it truly is.

[bpeale]

10. the sheeple will roll over & play dead yet again. nothing will be done,.

stolen elections? what stolen elections? i didn't see no stolen election. where? who? okay.

[Benhurst]

11. Nothing will get Americans out onto the streets short of

an American Idol contest's being stolen.

[EFerrari]

14. This is the best argument for open borders.

Unlike us, the people of Mexico DO go out on the streets with pots and pans and signs and all.

We need MORE of them up here to show us how it's done.

[Benhurst]

15. You may be jesting,

but I couldn't agree more.

[blues90]

16. that's true , they do do that , as do many other countries

I recall , I think it was over a year now when the talk was becoming a great pressure on illegals . This was when many did not go to school or work for a day , then the media came out stating they had no effect of business as usual to down play their efforts .

They know how to do it but americans don't want to know or learn how this is done . This can be the result of all sorts of reasons from fear to prejudice that americans resist .

America is a young country where we have had it for the most part to easy . I can't honestly say if it got real bad if americans would do a damn thing about it .

[backscatter712]

12. If there are enough people to do it, I'm all for it.

I don't care if it means killing people.

I don't care if it turns this entire country into a war zone.

If that's what it takes to restore our Constitution, to re-secure our liberty, so fucking be it.

The Bush Administration and their enablers in Congress have destroyed our civil liberties, and liberty, to me, is worth more than life itself.

If they want to come for me, let them. I just guarantee that I will not die alone. There will be blood.

[EnviroBat]

17. I've got your back...

I'm right there with ya.

[blues90]

18. how would anyone know who the so called enemy was ?

You can't just go out there shooting .

[EnviroBat]

20. They'll be the one's in the Blackwater riot gear, kicking the crap

out of your family and forcing you to watch.

[stillcool]

13. Don't know...

but perhaps the up-tick in people walking the walk to the voting booth suggests more involvement in the political system. That said, no one seems to care about counting votes accurately in this Primary season, so I see no reason for that to change. Rush Holt's bill would at least offer states to have paper trails and automatic standard recounts, in place for November's election ..on the Fed's dime, but people don't seem interested in that either. Of course, come November it will be too late, and the only one's complaining will be called 'sore losers', and the candidate will be held responsible for not counting votes, that can't be counted.

[Perry Logan]

19. So the fruits of the Republican Revolution are civil war, or the possibility of it.

[blues90]

21. I don't know , I'm only asking

[EnviroBat]

22. I think the best non-violent revolution we could engage in would

be to cancel our cable, cell phones, and credit cards. If we all did this as an organized populace. If we all stopped "consuming" and went back to a simpler way of living as communities, holding town meetings and keeping our lines of communication open. This would cripple the government/corp. This is the last thing they want. We could bring them to their knees. But, we won't do this either. We're to comfy in front of the brainwash box, and let's not forget, there's texting to be done. Fucking pathetic is what we've become, we're easy to control.

[balantz]

23. It would have been easier to begin a revolution by supporting an Edwards nomination.

That's the kind of revolution the neocons squashed this time around.

The war-profiteering; oil; pharmeceutical, insurance & etc. corporations run this country. They own the government along with all the military and police forces. They even have their own armies now making money as mercenaries and building camps here should the citizenry get too hungry and thirsty.

You want a revolution you have to take the candidate that vows to break the monopoly.

You want to fight with sticks and cap-pistols against the biggest armory in the world, good luck with that!

We blew it and let the candidate(s) for change slip by the corporate-media cameras.