List of Democrats who apparently do not care about the Constitution.

[Occam Bandage]

If you're represented by one of them, by all means give them a call.
(Edit: This is the vote for telecom immunity, which passed.)

Bayh (D-IN)
Carper (D-DE)
Conrad (D-ND)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Webb (D-VA)

Not Voting
Clinton (D-NY)

[bdamomma]

1. Why Webb?

[Occam Bandage]

5. These are Democrats who voted in favor of telecom immunity. HRC didn't show up.

[Riley133]

62. Neither did Obama. n/t

[EvolveOrConvolve]

67. Uh, yes he did

Check out the link below to the roll call.

[Riley133]

69. I was the one who posted the official link and it shows that

Obama, Graham & Clinton were absent for the final vote.

[Riley133]

71. Clarification to avoid misunderstanding

My apologies for posting the Senate roll call link which had already been posted.

If you scroll about halfway down, you'll see that Clinton, Obama & Graham were not present for the final vote which occurred around dinnertime EST.

I'm sorry if I misunderstood or caused confusion.

[EvolveOrConvolve]

72. What's the difference between the two roll call links?

This one shows only Clinton & Graham as absent:

http://senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00015

Obama's on that list...

[Riley133]

73. Is that one for the amendment he voted for this morning?

My computer is acting up so I'm having trouble going back and forth, but my guess is that there are several similar looking links but they are all linking to several different actions. I think that's causing confusion. When I first read the post, I thought it was referring to the final vote but I think the discussion is referring to the vote on the amendment this morning - and Obama was there for that.

What do you think?

[EvolveOrConvolve]

75. I don't know, but I am confused

The roll call I linked to appears to be the same numbers of yeas and nays as the final vote you posted (although I didn't see anywhere that it was the actual final vote) with the exception of the removal of Obama's name from the list.

Shit, I don't know.

[Riley133]

77. Try this link - because I can't get the Senate links to open up for some reason

And yes, I cleared my cache - numerous times. :)

Anyway,this explains what I was trying to say which was only referencing the final vote - which I thought the original post was about.

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/2/12/224018/154

I do apologize for the confusion.

[niyad]

2. just when I was beginning to think there might be hope for salazar.

guess it's time for another phone call.

[geardaddy]

3. What's the vote for?

Do you have a link to the bill text?

[VenusRising]

7. Link

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00015

[geardaddy]

11. Thanks!

[bdamomma]

32. this is by state how they voted

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00015#state

[shireen]

16. it's about holding big corporations accountable for unlawful eavesdropping

This should take you to it
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:SP3907:

if it does not work, go to
http://senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00015
and click on S.Amdt. 3907


I dropped Mikulski a polite note to express my disappointment and asked her for an explanation. Also thanked my other senator, Cardin for supporting Dodd's amendment.

I'm so disgusted by these people ....

[fascisthunter]

4. Same Bastards almost Every Time

Dems voters, do not act like sheep and try to defend these pukes.

[Fredda Weinberg]

13. Mikulski (D-MD) is a bastard? I like her n/t

[fascisthunter]

14. you would

[Fredda Weinberg]

22. What's that supposed to mean? n/t

[fascisthunter]

27. Oh Fredda... Don't Pretend You Don't Know

What is it you want? Want me to say... "good for you for liking folks like Mikulski who vote to screw Americans over"?

You are far to the right of most Progressives and Liberals. All folks have to do is read your posts and they can easily tell where you stand. So, I am not a bit surprised by your response to my post.

[Fredda Weinberg]

33. I'll ask again, what's wrong w/Mikulski? Every time I've heard her

she's been a voice of progressive causes.

[LiberalEsto]

39. Except for all her pro war votes

and all the votes kowtowing to the * misadministration


I'm another disgusted Maryland voter. It's time to send Babs out to pasture and elect Congressman Van Hollen our next senator.

[Fredda Weinberg]

50. His record seems reasonable. Good luck. I like this statement

The American people can respect genuine differences of opinion on the best way to move forward in Iraq. We should have a healthy debate about the best way to bring our troops home. Questions of war and peace are matters of conscience. When so many American and Iraqi lives hang in the balance, each of us has a responsibility to exercise our best judgment.

http://vanhollen.house.gov/HoR/MD08/Newsroom/Floor+Statements+and+Speeches/2005/12-16-05+Statement+of+Congressman+Van+Hollen+on+Iraq+Resolution.htm

[Zorra]

59. All the usual traitorous bluedog DLC suspects are there.

These scumsucking fascist weasels need to be voted out of office in favor of real Democrats.

[WillTheGoober]

6. hahaha...

Give me a break.

This is not helpful at all.

W.

[SteppingRazor]

8. It's especially distressing to see a lot of the more-recent senators on there...

I expected better out of Webb, McCaskill, Salazar and Stabenow

[niyad]

18. why would you expect better out of salazar? for the most part, he has been

a DINO--I keep telling him that, had we wanted a conservative catholic republican, we could have voted for pete coors. and don't forget, gonzo is a good friend of his, and he was the one who did the introduction of gonzo on the senate floor, and voted to authorize torture, amoung many other repuke-style votes.

[GDAEx2]

9. Lieberman???

This sorry f@*k should NEVER be included in a list of Democrats!

[GDAEx2]

10. Dupe

sorry

[LeftyMom]

12. Feinstein, natch.

:grr:

[RuleOfNah]

49. As a Californian, I must apologize to the Nation and the world for the sellout by Feinstein (D-CA).

Yet again.

[LeftyMom]

51. And to think people on DU gave me shit about not voting for her.

She just keeps getting worse.

And writing her office is such a joke. They give the worst, half-assed, irrelevant responses to constituent mail ever.

[geardaddy]

15. It looks like

Klobuchar (D-MN) is finally starting to vote the right way. FINALLY.

[Windy]

17. No excuse Clinton! You are in DC or nearby for the primaries. n/t

[Vadem]

21. Nope, she isn't in the DC area; she is on her way to Texas! n/t

[Virginia Dare]

19. You add insult to injury by adding Lieberman to that list..

we know he doesn't care about much of anything but himself, plus he's not a Democrat.

[Vadem]

20. Webb was co-sponsor of the bill! Was his vote to allow him to

re-introduce the bill? I don't understand!

:shrug:

[slipslidingaway]

34. Webb's name is not on this list for amendment SA 3907...

:shrug:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/amendment.xpd?session=110&amdt=s3907

"SA 3907. Mr. DODD (for himself, Mr. FEINGOLD, Mr. LEAHY, Mr. KENNEDY, Mr. HARKIN, Mr. WYDEN, Mr. SANDERS, Mr. OBAMA, Mrs. CLINTON, Mr. BIDEN, and Mr. KERRY) submitted an amendment intended to be proposed by him to the bill S. 2248, to amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978, to modernize and streamline the provisions of that Act, and for other purposes; which was ordered to lie on the table; as follows:"

[Vadem]

46. I thought Webb was co-sponsor of the main FISA bill to strip

immunity from the Telecoms!

[slipslidingaway]

53. Not sure what bill that was? This was the amendment to the

intelligence bill that had immunity, the amendment would have stripped the immunity from the bill.

Webb voted against the amendment and for final passage of the bill with immunity clause intact.

Maybe Webb said he favored the judiciary bill which did not contain the immunity clause...I'm just guessing here.

:shrug:

[backscatter712]

23. No surprise to see Ken Nighthorse Salazar.

Even after writing him, emailing him, calling his office, he still ended up on the traitors list.

[kirby]

24. Bush pimped them out... n/t

[tridim]

25. A good list of people who should not be considered for VP or Majority Leader.

[peacetalksforall]

26. Have the Nelsons, Landrieu, and Salazar ever voted for Democrats?

The next layer of Feinstein, Stabenow, Bayh, and Carper are nearly as bad as those in my first grouping.

Why do I care so much with leaders like them. I hope they get plenty of money out of it for selling our rights. I can't see it any other way.

[VenusRising]

30. Don't forget Pryor.

He votes with that block, too.

[knitter4democracy]

28. Who got to Stabenow?!

Dangit, I thought she'd go with Levin on this one. I have to start calling her office again.

[rockymountaindem]

29. Like anybody was going to go after the telecoms anyway

Not that it excuses this vote, but was the DOJ going to prosecute the telecoms for their breaches of the law? Doubtful.

[bdamomma]

31. Should we bombard these Senators with e-mails and phone calls

what the hell is their problem? Let's call them out on this.

[OHdem10]

35. Red State Democrats for the most part, are they not/

This is their typical voting patterns over years and years.

This is why I think this Unity thing is a joke. It is members
of our own party who vote against us every day.

Why has not someone unified our party?? They think they are
going to unite the GOP . Better still unify the country.

Of course, perhaps they will be honest enough to say we
are the Democratic Conservative Party . This could explain
these votws.

[wryter2000]

36. Shit

I've been faxing DiFi like crazy. I guess I have to remind her that she lost my vote today and that I'll actively support a primary opponent the next time she runs.

Damn, damn, damn. I thought we were making progress with her.

[cloudythescribbler]

37. Not only Webb, but what about KOHL, McCaskill & others ... Et tu? nt

[cloudythescribbler]

38. sorry dupe nt

[NoodleyAppendage]

40. Aside from McCaskill, which others in this TRAITOROUS bunch support Obama? n/t

J

[katty]

41. Feinstein, no surprise-can't pry her out of that seat

[Cleita]

45. Next time she comes up for election vote

Green. That's what I'm doing. It doesn't matter if the Republican candidate wins because that's what we get in Feinstein anyway. I will never hold my nose and vote for her again.

[LeftyMom]

52. I've been saying that for years.

If she gets a little bit of a leftward challenge, maybe she'll put a little effort in not to be such a war mongering corporate whore.

Okay, probably not, but at least nobody gets to blame me for her.

[katty]

42. Feinstein, no surprise-can't pry her out of that seat

[Cleita]

43. Feinstein, why am I not surprised.

No amount of petitioning her has ever worked. It's like what you expect her to do as your representative doesn't exist. She's a corporate whore all the way. Next time I will not hold my nose and vote for her. I don't care if we get a Republican in her place because that's what we have with her anyway. My next vote for that office will go to a Green.

[earth mom]

44. DINOs One and All!

:grr:

[spanone]

47. NOT ONE republicon voted AGAINST immunity....not ONE

we do not have a majority....not at all

[unkachuck]

76. buyer's remorse?....

....there always seems to be a corporate majority....

....we sure don't receive much for voting Democratic yet we keeping holding our noses hoping for the best....

[VP505]

48. Not one damned

RePuke voted NO, but 19 Dem's voted for, sure says something about unity under the leadership of Reid, at least to me it does.

[Elspeth]

54. Feinstein again!

Crap.

[varelse]

55. Feinstein (D-CA)

Well I'm disappointed but not surprised. She seems to be immune to petitions, however. You do get a nice, phony, "form" letter back explaining how her job is just too complicated for your simple mind to grasp, but don't worry, she's doing the best she can for us! Maybe if she had to face a serious challenger in the next Primary?

*Sigh* - the spellcheck here wanted me to call her Einstein(D-CA). Riiight.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

56. Did you cut-and-paste the list from the last stab in the back?

[trayfoot]

57. Obama???????

Hillary is listed as not voting, but what about OBAMA???????

[trayfoot]

58. No Info About Obama????????

eom

[Riley133]

60. I just read that neither Obama nor Clinton voted

But hey, Nancy Pelosi upgraded the cafeteria to a gourmet cafeteria so it's all good, right?

[EFerrari]

63. Obama did vote and he voted in favor of the amendment against immunity. n/t

[Riley133]

65. Here is Obama's Senate website with voting record, and

I posted the official roll call on today's vote below.

http://obama.senate.gov/votes/

[EFerrari]

66. Now I'm confused. Check out this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2852350&mesg_id=2852350

[Riley133]

68. My apologies - I was referring to the final vote.

As I understand it, their votes wouldn't have made a difference anyway but I wish they would have voted on principle. Obama was there this morning for the amendment; the final vote was around dinnertime.

[EFerrari]

70. None needed. You helped me understand what happened.

It would be nice if these two could show up to vote as if it was important!

/it would be nice if I could type, too

[trayfoot]

64. Thank you.....

for the info!

[Riley133]

74. You're welcome, but I might have muddied things up and....

November is still a really long way away! :)

[Riley133]

61. Here is the official roll call list - Graham, Clinton & Obama absent

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00020