After today's latest cave in by the "Democrats," should this site just be "Underground?"

[villager]

Or perhaps, "America Underground?"

[LiberalHeart]

1. How about "Disappointed Underground"? That way the monogram on my towels still works.

[elehhhhna]

6. Disgusted works, too. I'm in, either way.

[americanstranger]

13. Or even 'disillusioned.'

But I'm still pretty disgusted.

- as

[The_Casual_Observer]

2. Looked like a bi-partisan unity vote to me, sort of a "Republican-Democrat"

party vote. Just like the Obama people want.

[uppityperson]

3. Yah know what? I get tired of the sniping.

Reason I don't go to GD-P very often. Am tired of it.

(Odd, this post doesn't show up in mydu)

[uppityperson]

7. nope, still doesn't after editing. woohoo! I'm invisible!

[cbayer]

24. That happened to me too. But you won't ever know I replied to you cause I'm invisible too.

[zabet]

4. Yep. A repubs definition of

bi-partisan unity is when
they get the dems to vote
their way, not meet in the
middle.

[Occam Bandage]

18. Obama made the right vote today. Clinton didn't.

[The_Casual_Observer]

19. So what? Fat lot of difference his vote made.

[Occam Bandage]

23. If you're going to hold up this vote as evidence of what an Obama

presidency will be like, well...I have to say I like that comparison. Obama makes a principled stand; Hillary ducks the issue to avoid upsetting her donors.

[Donnachaidh]

40. Considering he's under a microscope because of previously missed votes

I'd say the odds were very good he was going to MAKE this one. Marvelous how people can get their act together when people are watching them. :shrug:

[Forkboy]

5. I'd welcome the Underground part back.

[Individualist]

21. Ditto

[ulysses]

22. heh.

Yeah. :hi:

[Forkboy]

32. Remember those days?

:)

:hi:

[ulysses]

42. I do.

Been a long time.

[earth mom]

8. Never gonna happen. Too many around here put the dems on a pedestal-where they often do NOT belong.

:argh:

[earth mom]

9. self delete

:argh:

[DaDooRonRon]

10. "Why do you keep hitting yourself on the head with that hammer?"

"Because it feels so good when I stop."

No matter how many times you try it 2+2 never equals 4 with this bunch.

In all seriousness, may I ask why ANYONE thinks it will be any different after November? It is a march to a corporate state of perpetual fear, and all the Democrats will be doing this time around is holding the place for the next group of neo-cons to come in and finish the job. Unless of course Hillary gets elected, in which case she will do a good bit of the grunt work herself in exchange for a seat at the table.

For those who know football, I give you the immortal Dennis Green quote:

"They are who we thought they were!"

[countryjake]

11. I like Ground Under Democrats, myself.

It was compromise in action, civil strategy, just like both of our candidates are claiming is so "effective" and "necessary" in order to "reclaim" our nation.

We have no representative government and there are no congress people willing to risk their jobs by standing up for democratic ideals.

What happened on the hill today is not "seeking common ground" with the rightwing...it's called advocating the will of a repressive government.

[bvar22]

36. NOT "compromise" in action,

"Capitulation" is more appropriate.

[RedCappedBandit]

12. Yes. NT

[Horse with no Name]

14. Very little underground either

Look at our choice in candidates.
Two mainstream centrists who want to play nice with the republicans.

[originalpckelly]

15. No, because we're the Democrats, and they're the pretenders.

This is our party, not the party of motherfuckers who fail to uphold basic human rights.

[DaDooRonRon]

16. Well, "we" elected them

and the reasoning behind doing so in '06 was that "we" needed a majority and with all the new progressive blood coming in then "our" voices would be heard.

It really can't be any more obvious now, can it? "You" don't mean a tinkers damn to them, and no matter who you think "you" are electing it all goes back to the same place.

How much more righteous indignation are "you" going to let slide? How much longer are "you" willing to be fooled? The onus is no longer on the bad guys on the other side now - the onus is on "YOU".

[blindpig]

31. bingo

The onus is on all of us. How long, Lord, how long? How long will the denial continue? Jesus, when will the greek choir be replaced by hopelites? If I had a dollar for every time the cry of betrayal has been sounded here I could retire. They weren't just crying wolf either, the betrayals are real, yet time after time the battered wife crosses her fingers and hopes it will be better next time, but it never is.

How can we be so deluded? Is it fear, sloth, hypnotism? Those jerks ain't gonna give us nothin'. We're gonna hafta get off our asses and take what is ours.

[DaDooRonRon]

41. And the path to what is ours may not run through the same old place,

no matter how much some people want to believe it does.

[TahitiNut]

17. Being an independent liberal means never having to say I'm sorry.

:evilgrin:

[WillTheGoober]

20. Umm

When you find a party that you agree completely with -- let me know.

This country was designed for compromise. If you'd like a compromise-less government, move to a dictatorship.

It's one thing to be upset and mad and to take that out on your representatives. But to abandon the party? Please.

All-or-Nothing Liberals.

Let's call it All-or-Nothing Underground.

W.

[Wizard777]

25. I can't understand why we are giving votes if we can't get votes. n/t

[The Backlash Cometh]

26. "America Under Ground" or "Underground America"

[Neo-wobbly]

27. We still have Democrats?

Wow, I thought they were extinct, despite occasional wild rumors of spotting Chris Dodd or Dennis Kucinich, but I thought those were fairy-tales.

[Froward69]

28. alas a bright spot...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23125771/

[MelissaB]

29. Thanks for the link. That deserves it's own thread IMHO.

:hi:

[villager]

39. thanks for that -- it's only the occasional judge providing such moments (alas, indeed)

As the Dems continue to cave and cave, such judges will become rarer, and the last of America, extinct.

Time to start planning now for secession movements?

[cutlassmama]

30. The Dems in Congress this year have certainly been a HUGE disappointment

I say replace each and every one of them, especially Pelosi and minus Obama. Let's keep him. ;)

[librechik]

33. ack

don't remind me

:cry:

[MedleyMisty]

34. My favorite alternate name is Democracy Underground.

[blindpig]

35. Masochists Underground

If the shoe fits.....

[FlyingSquirrel]

37. I'd say "Progressive Underground"...

But the freepers'd have a ball holding their noses and saying "PU!"

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

38. Disenfranchised Underground. nt