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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:32 AM
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Thank You, U.S. Senate! "The King can do no Wrong'; Wire Tapping is Fantastic!
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/12791

Thank You, U.S. Senate! "The King can do no Wrong'; Wire Tapping is Fantastic!
by Bill Hare | February 12, 2008


Thank you, U.S. Senate for your latest cave in to the Bush-Cheney ongoing dictatorship!

It isn’t enough to endorse wire tapping.

Let’s go ahead and render the huge corporations that do it an invulnerable status. Why should they be subjected to troublesome lawsuits for following the old John McCain maxim of “We are at war”! meaning perpetual war for perpetual peace?

If we intend to be at war in Iraq for at least 100 years then it makes logical sense to snoop on citizens in the very country whose symbol of freedom you have guaranteed to export all over the world!

Think of all the money the phone companies can make snooping on people throughout the entire world, all in the name of preserving American freedom!

Tragically, you don’t even see this conduct pattern as the least bit contradictory, much less wrong and blatantly unconstitutional. If Jefferson, Madison and Franklin were alive today would they all be sounding like John McCain?

Many of us doubt it, no matter how strongly and quickly the Hatches, McConnells, Bunnings, Chamblisses and other Bushie robots act and genuflect to whatever the King commands!

Forget the Constitution!

For those of you Democrats who voted along with them, congratulations for putting the New World Order and the Project for the New American Century ahead of the U.S. Constitution!
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:34 AM
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1. What she said. nt
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 09:35 AM by zanne
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:35 AM
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2. we have to let these Senators know how we feel about this.
this is truly disgusting. Why do they keep on giving the green light to this POS *.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:35 AM
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3. Senate sez: we LOVE corporate largess
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 09:36 AM by C_U_L8R
nudge nudge wink wink say no more
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:38 AM
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4. And neither of the Dem candidates
will do shit about this either. They have never said they were going to change/undo some of the constitutional damage of the Bush Administration. Be it Clinton or Obama or McCain, it will all remain the same. Yet people still give up their last dollar to a political candidate believing things will change. We should have all withheld our monetary contributions until we forced them to undo this damage.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:41 AM
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6. Not true. Obama went to DC to vote ,
Clinton went to Texas to campaign.


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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:47 AM
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9. did you even bother to read the post you responded to?
it had nothing to do with the actual senate vote.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:00 AM
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what are you talking about ? it's the whole topic.
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 10:01 AM by C_U_L8R
and this poster said none of the candidates are willing to do
anything about it... i was simply pointing out that claim is
demonstrably not true. One did do something about it and the others didn't.
There's a problem with that ?

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Beststash Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:39 AM
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5. Looks like the Dems
are bought and paid for - I will never defend them again as being different, they 're not.

Peace
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:43 AM
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7. I find it amazing that
68 US Senators can be so ignorant and fearful to be compelled to totally IGNORE the fourth amendment? What is that they can't seem to grasp about:
“ The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. ”
I can understand what motivates the Republic side of the isle but the Democratic side, simply disgusting!
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:44 AM
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8. C'mon! Isn't this a bit of an overreaction?
I love Big Brother. We all should love Big Brother.
The voice from the telescreen was still pouring forth its tale of prisoners and booty and slaughter, but the shouting outside had died down a little. The waiters were turning back to their work. One of them approached with the gin bottle. Winston, sitting in a blissful dream, paid no attention as his glass was filled up. He was not running or cheering any longer. He was back in the Ministry of Love, with everything forgiven, his soul white as snow. He was in the public dock, confessing everything, implicating everybody. He was walking down the white-tiled corridor, with the feeling of walking in sunlight, and an armed guard at his back. The longhoped-for bullet was entering his brain.

He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother. (1984)


Relax and just let your hate go. In the end we'll all love the new world Big Brother has created.
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:23 AM
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11. LOL, ya
I suppose I would feel better if I allowed myself to be a brainwashed love big brother bot, but I just can't seem to disconnect from reality.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:00 AM
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10. K & R
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:28 AM
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12. Don't forget about the job growth this kind of work provides!
:sarcasm:
This is disgusting and just another example of how those elected to serve the people are in fact bought and paid for by the corporations that are really in charge.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:18 AM
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13. AT&T Inc 2008 PAC Summary Data = Contributions 62% to Republicans
AT&T Inc 2008 PAC Summary Data

2008 election so far*

Total Receipts .. $2,460,909
Total Spent ..... $2,009,071 (view expenditures http://opensecrets.org/pacs/expend.asp?strID=C00109017&Cycle=2008)

Date of last report December 31, 2007

Contributions from this PAC to federal candidates (list recipients http://opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.asp?strID=C00109017&Cycle=2008)
(38% to Democrats, 62% to Republicans) $1,297,500
Contributions to this PAC from individual donors of $200 or more (list donors http://opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgave.asp?strID=C00109017&Cycle=2008)
No individual donors contributed $200 or more to this PAC in the 2008 Cycle (so far).

Total to Democratic Senate Candidates: $40,000
Total to Republican Senate Candidates: $82,250

Total to Democratic House Candidates: $449,050
Total to Republican House Candidates: $720,200

Presidential Candidate Total Contribs
McCain, John (R) $5,000

Official PAC Name:
AT&T INC. FEDERAL POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE (AT&T FEDERAL PAC)
Location: San Antonio TX, 78205
Industry: Telephone Utilities
Treasurer: Klug, Jonathan P.
FEC Committee ID: C00109017
(Look up actual documents filed at the FEC http://herndon1.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/fecimg/?C00109017)

*Based on data released by the FEC on Friday, February 08, 2008.


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PS. Cool hearts!
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:38 AM
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14. Today's Must Read “Some people around here get cold feet when threatened by the administration,”
Today's Must Read
By Paul Kiel - February 13, 2008, 9:51AM - http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/todays_must_read_275.php

“Some people around here get cold feet when threatened by the administration,” is how Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) put it.

Yesterday, the Senate enthusiastically endorsed the Administration's wireless wiretapping program (and voted to stop the 40 or so lawsuits against the telecoms for cooperating with it). Now the question becomes whether members of the House will stand by their bill, which contains stronger court oversight of the spying and does not contain retroactive immunity for the telecoms.

The early signs from the House leadership have been that they will strongly oppose the Senate version. The chairmen of the two relevant committees, House Judiciary Committee Chair John Conyers (D-MI) and House intel committee Chair Silvestre Reyes (D-TX), both say they oppose the Senate bill. Conyers has said outright that he opposes such immunity, while Reyes says he needs more time to review the documents from the program "to make a determination." The House leadership has been making similar noises.

But it will indeed be a battle. .....
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:40 AM
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15. The Letter I wrote this morning to the Senators that voted nay-
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 11:41 AM by asdjrocky
Dear _____________,


On February 12, 2008, with your rejection of the Dodd Amendment No. 3907, you showed, once again, your desire to protect the criminals within the Bush administration, and big business, and your willingness to disregard the Constitution and the peoples right to privacy.

I can only speak for myself, but I elect public officials to protect the Constitution, not the tel-com industry, and not criminals.

What, I ask you, should I tell my children if they break the rules? Should I perhaps grant them retroactive immunity? How do I tell my seventeen-year-old daughter this is a nation of laws? It’s obvious to her that the laws apply only to us; the common citizens of this once great country, and the laws are not for big business, not for the Bush Administration, and certainly not for you, members of the Senate. What the Democrats did yesterday, in the Senate, was shameful, and when it comes time to vote again, this is one American that will not forget.

Your actions are shameful, I cannot think of another word for it. I’ve always voted, I’ve always volunteered for Democratic Candidates, and Democratic causes, and now I’m left feeling sick and fooled. I’m not alone, millions of Americans helped to elect Democrats to the House & the Senate, and this morning we feel taken and forgotten by this 110th Congress. I’m sure we won’t forget how we feel, in November.

Once again I see our elected representatives wrap up our Constitution in a neat little package and hand it to this madman in the White House, and I am disgusted.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:55 AM
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16. If corporations were not doing anything wrong, they wouldn't have needed
immunity! Once again they prove we have the best government corporations can buy!
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:09 PM
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17. K&R
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:27 PM
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18. From what I gather, they are doing another temporary (21 day) extension.
Depressing as hell, if you ask me.

Not ONE representative should be aiming to protect the government or corporations over the RIGHTS extended to citizens via the Constitution: NOT A SINGLE ONE!

Granted, at this point in time, I just can't stand the republicans, at all, because they are lock-step in acting AGAINST 'the peoples' rights. But, it's damn depressing to see ANY congress critter behave in such a manner because it proves they no longer have either our nation's or peoples' interest at heart.

:-( Sad!
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