This is about Bush going to jail, not Telecom Executives

[ThomWV]

Do not let that slip out of your sight. Immunity is not about the Telecoms and what they did, it is about the Administration and what it did.

[seafan]

1. You betcha that's what it's about. Saving Bu$h's behind. n/t

[bdamomma]

3. exactly.

just covering his butt.

[Botany]

2. You got it.

bush/Cheney plan

NSA did the spying
and the Dept. of Justice was the muscle

[gateley]

4. Ah - no WONDER they're putting up such a big fight and refuse to compromise. nt

[TahitiNut]

5. He's behind a lot of "firewalls" ... and even he's a puppet.

As a puppet, he's just one more "firewall" - albeit a very important one in terms of setting precedent and re-establishing anything that purports to be a "free and democratic" nation.

I think it's VERY interesting that the corporations are "going to the mattresses" over telecom immunity ... since it's abundantly clear that the PTB are heavily vested in telecoms. Ultimately, the telecoms are MORE important than any one of the hired stooges in Congress or the White House ... at least to the folks pulling the strings.

[malaise]

6. Bingo

Keep repeating.

[seafan]

7. There is a tsunami on these criminals' horizon. It is unmistakable. But they don't see it because

they are still smashing and grabbing before 'sprinting to the finish.'


God help The People's fury.

[iamthebandfanman]

8. actually, i think its about both ;)

n wed kill two birds with one stone if it had been amended

[Metta]

9. Jail is too good for him. He should be taken to Guantanamo.

And forced to live there for a long time.

[L. Coyote]

10. Not only was it illegal, it illegally paid tons of money to the Telecoms. GIVE IT $$$$ BACK!!

We, The People should be seeking $$$ damages too! The illegally made off with incredible piles of taxpayer MONEY $$$$$.

On edit, name Bush a plaintiff and seize his ranch! :rofl:

[L. Coyote]

11. K & R. On further reflection, lets go back to the days when Execs went to jail too!

[progressoid]

12. Bush ain't going to jail.

It's a beautiful thought. It's just not going to happen.

[Donnachaidh]

15. nope,. he won't

He'll be villified in the press, just to make it SEEM like the press actually does some work, while he parties with the big boys who became even wealthier because of his tax cuts.

And after he croaks, he'll suddenly *become* the *misunderstood* president. And many little neocon worker pundits will write revisionist books, totally whitewashing his crimes against humanity.

It will be the same sort of white wash done for Nixon. All because both CRIMINALS lived in the White House for a few years.

:puke:

[HuffleClaw]

13. and dems voted to protect him

a whole mess of 'em, the fools.

[ProgressiveFool]

14. I respectfully disagree, in that I think it's about both

But that doesn't lessen your point, which I think is that we, the American people, need to see the Bush administration and Bush himself held to account for this bit of brazen lawbreaking (personally, I'd like to see them go down for torture, i.e. war-crimes, but this is just about as important).

The big corporations, though, that both do the bidding of Establishment Washington, and dictate the agenda of Establishment Washington, must be reined in by the rule of law as well.

[MonkeyFunk]

16. Isn't it immunity from civil suits

not criminal action?

[madokie]

17. ah but the civil suits are the vehicle the truth would come out on

without them no truth

[ThomWV]

18. It is the evidence that will come out of the civil actions that will do it

There are civil suits against the Telecoms right now, if immunity is passed they go away and no one will ever have to testify as to what was done by whom when and where. So you are right, it is immunity from civil suits but that only goes for the Telecoms, not the Administration criminal activity which will be disclosed.

[bbgrunt]

19. damn right!

[Disturbed]

20. If Telecoms did nothing Illegal why do they need immunity ?

:think:

[RuleOfNah]

21. How many perps? Bush + 1?

Bush + 10?

Are there any Dictatorial stereotypes or cliches the current regime has failed to fumble?