updated link: House Rejects Spy Bill Extension, Setting Stage for Adoption of Telco Amnesty and Wide

[maddezmom]

House Rejects Spy Bill Extension, Setting Stage for Adoption of Telco Amnesty and Wider Spy Powers
By Ryan Singel February 13, 2008 | 4:22:45 PMCategories: NSA

More than 30 conservative Democrats joined with the House Republicans Wednesday to defeat a measure that would have extended the expiration date of a temporary spying law by 21 days. That measure was intended to give the House room to negotiate with the Senate, rather than quickly adopting a Senate bill that grants amnesty to telecoms and legalizes Bush's warrantless wiretapping program.

The extension's failure by a vote of 199 to 229 will inevitably pressure House Democratic leaders to allow a vote to adopt the Senate bill, since the House is not in session Thursday or Friday.

The temporary spy law, known as the Protect America Act, expires at midnight on Friday. If the House adopts the Senate version, President Bush could immediately sign the bill into law, winning a key political battle and largely shutting down debate and lawsuits over his secret spying program.

The House's Democratic leadership wants instead to enter into negotiations with the Senate in order to reconcile the differences between the Restore Act -- which the House passed in November -- and the Senate's Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Amendments Act of 2007.


more:

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/02/house-rejects-s.html




WASHINGTON (AFP) - US lawmakers defied a warning from US President George W. Bush Wednesday to reach a quick decision and agreed to debate a controversial wiretapping law for three more weeks.

~snip~

The Senate on Tuesday bowed to pressure and passed the controversial measure, part of the government's legal battery in the "war on terror."


But the bill faces stiff opposition from some Democrats in the House, particularly as it offers blanket legal immunity to telecommunications companies for possible violations of US law if they participate in the measures.


By a vote of 206 to 199 votes, the House agreed Wednesday to prolong its debate for three more weeks.


"The bill the Senate passed yesterday, in my view, is unacceptable," said Democratic Representative Jane Harman, who chairs a homeland security subcommittee on intelligence and terrorism.

more:http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/080213/usa/us_congress_intelligence_bush_4

[L. Coyote]

1. C-SPAN just said they voted down a 21-day extension by 191-229

[spanone]

4. yes they did, i just watched it.....facts have never hampered the media

[maddezmom]

6. I don't know what's going on, here's a link about the 191-229 vote

By Tim Starks, CQ Staff
In a revolt against the Democratic leadership, the House on Wednesday defeated a 21-day extension of a temporary law governing electronic surveillance.

Dozens of Democrats defected, as the short-term bill failed, 191-229.

The stunning rebuff followed a parliamentary war that raged all day on the floor. Democrats successfully tabled, 222-196, an appeal from the ruling of the chair that a GOP motion to recommit the 21-day extension and amend it with the text of the Senate bill was non-germane.

But that procedural vote — typically a party-unity test — was not the end of the story, as soon became clear. Instead, the stopgap measure (HR 5349) was torpedoed on final passage. Not a single Republican voted for the extension, while 34 Democrats — a mix of liberals and conservatives — voted “no.”

Silvestre Reyes , D-Texas, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said the next step on the surveillance legislation was unclear.

more:http://cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=5&docID=news-000002670346

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

2. There could very well be...

Some Dem senators who, through their actions or inactions, will end up being woefully shamed. Frankly, pariah status might well be too good for them.

[DearAbby]

3. Come on Democrats grow a spine, protect our Rights

You are our last hope.

[MasonJar]

5. So which is it? Did they vote to delay and vote to not extend? Or what?

[maddezmom]

7. not sure, here is another link: looks like some of the Dems revolted

House Rejects Stopgap Extension of Electronic Surveillance Law
By Tim Starks, CQ Staff
In a revolt against the Democratic leadership, the House on Wednesday defeated a 21-day extension of a temporary law governing electronic surveillance.

Dozens of Democrats defected, as the short-term bill failed, 191-229.

The stunning rebuff followed a parliamentary war that raged all day on the floor. Democrats successfully tabled, 222-196, an appeal from the ruling of the chair that a GOP motion to recommit the 21-day extension and amend it with the text of the Senate bill was non-germane.

But that procedural vote — typically a party-unity test — was not the end of the story, as soon became clear. Instead, the stopgap measure (HR 5349) was torpedoed on final passage. Not a single Republican voted for the extension, while 34 Democrats — a mix of liberals and conservatives — voted “no.”

Silvestre Reyes , D-Texas, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said the next step on the surveillance legislation was unclear.

more:http://cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=5&docID=news-000002670346

[maddezmom]

8. House Rejects Spy Bill Extension, Setting Stage for Adoption of Telco Amnesty and Wider Spy Powers

House Rejects Spy Bill Extension, Setting Stage for Adoption of Telco Amnesty and Wider Spy Powers
By Ryan Singel February 13, 2008 | 4:22:45 PMCategories: NSA
More than 30 conservative Democrats joined with the House Republicans Wednesday to defeat a measure that would have extended the expiration date of a temporary spying law by 21 days. That measure was intended to give the House room to negotiate with the Senate, rather than quickly adopting a Senate bill that grants amnesty to telecoms and legalizes Bush's warrantless wiretapping program.

The extension's failure by a vote of 199 to 229 will inevitably pressure House Democratic leaders to allow a vote to adopt the Senate bill, since the House is not in session Thursday or Friday.

The temporary spy law, known as the Protect America Act, expires at midnight on Friday. If the House adopts the Senate version, President Bush could immediately sign the bill into law, winning a key political battle and largely shutting down debate and lawsuits over his secret spying program.

The House's Democratic leadership wants instead to enter into negotiations with the Senate in order to reconcile the differences between the Restore Act -- which the House passed in November -- and the Senate's Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Amendments Act of 2007.

more:http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/02/house-rejects-s.html

[rocktivity]

9. CUE THE VONAGE THEME!

See what happens when you try? I know you can't always succeed, but that's no reason not to try.

:woohoo:
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