Turley: Dem leadership blocking torture investigat'n to avoid triggering impeachment investigat'n

[seafan]

....and the damaging disclosure of Democratic knowledge of the torture program.

According to this Constitutional scholar, it's not just idle conspiracy theory any more.



Campaign Starts to Push John Conyers to Begin Impeachment Proceedings — Against the Wishes of Nancy Pelosi

By Jonathan Turley
February 12, 2008

It has been well-known that Speaker Nancy Pelosi has insisted that there will be no impeachment of President Bush during her term. Activists, however, have reported that John Conyers may be considering confronting Pelosi and starting such proceedings after a meeting in his office. They have started a campaign to show Conyers that he will have the support of the Democratic base, even if he lacks the support of Democratic leadership.

The meeting and campaign is detailed here.

This follows Mukasey’s bizarre rationalization of why he will not allow a criminal investigation into the Bush torture program. Click here

The Democratic leadership has been helping the White House behind the scenes to block any serious investigation of torture to avoid triggering an impeachment investigation and the disclosure of Democratic knowledge of the torture program. Conyers, however, is the wild card. Any impeachment move would be a direct confrontation with Pelosi. He would be lionized by Democratic activists, who have grown unhappy with Pelosi. Indeed, it may be difficult for Pelosi to survive such a public fight and to secure the votes needed next Congress to be renewed as Speaker. It is worth watching.

Ms. Pelosi should be stripped of the Speakership.

Her tenure over this past year is the epitome of failure to preserve, protect and defend the United States Constitution. It is time she is replaced.

[peacebird]

1. Pelosi is a HUGE disappointment. She MUST be replaced as Speaker

[MadMaddie]

5. Pelosi and Reid must be ousted they do not want to

pursue criminal charges.

[originalpckelly]

2. The corrupt system still exists, it was not merely the corrupt Republicans that created it...

it was also the corrupt Democrats!

The system must go!

[mod mom]

6. AMEN! It's one big MONEY Party dedicated to the powerful over the people.

[High Plains]

20. Ah, yeah: The Single Unified Capitalist War Party

With an overdeveloped right wing and an underdeveloped left one.

[ooglymoogly]

28. Hopping around in a circle trampling on everything that is decent.

[wildbilln864]

3. k&r! nt

:hi:

[SpiralHawk]

4. Pelosi has proved herself to be a republicon homelander ENABLER

She should step down as Speaker for the sake of the American people, and let a real leader take over.

She has lost my confidence, and apparently the confidence of millions of other honest Americans who care about the rule of law, rather than the rule of corporate fat cats. Shame on her for all her enabling of Commander AWOL & his treasonous cronies...

[rhett o rick]

40. Support a Democratic challanger for her next term. nm

[mopinko]

45. but, but, but, she made history! nt

[NRaleighLiberal]

7. Pelosi and Reid are part of the problem, not the solution - they must go!

They are simply enablers of the corrupt status quo, and have been nothing but an utter disappointment to those who elected them in hope of something better.

[merh]

8. who is the dem that plans to run against Pelosi?

I want to donate to his/her campaign. Pelosi needs to go

And the same goes for Reid, if a dem says he/she will run against the old poot, I'll donate to his/her campaign.

[AnOhioan]

10. Shirley Golub

http://www.usalone.com/donations_golub.php

[merh]

16. thank you

:hi:

[Dr.Phool]

29. I'm in!

[rhett o rick]

41. I am in. nm

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

21. If the grassroots across the country awaken and make an example of Pelosi

and decide to replace their anger by sending money en masse to her opponent, it could be curtains for her.

[merh]

23. And that is what we should do.

Contribute to her dem opponent and send her a note telling we did just that because it is time for change.

[USA_1]

9. `It is time she is replaced.`

A big time AMEN!

Democrats had every opportunity to kill off the right wing Reaganomics revolution after Iran-Contragate but stupidly chose not to do so. We had many years of Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II as a consequence.

The Dems simply cannot afford to keep treating the Republicans with kid gloves. The Dems MUST stop Bush, NOW!

[lumpy]

11. One theory I have heard- Congress is reluctant to impeach or

bring this corrupt administration to justice is because in the eyes of the world this would be an embarrasment and a confirmation that the US form of democracy is faulty and further the realization that the US has become a failed nation. Pride goeth before the fall? Denial?

[Prefer]

12. It's because they are all puppets on strings

dancing to their masters' delight

[merh]

15. That theory doesn't fly

It is actually the reverse. If they did their job, if they upheld their oaths and held the impeachment hearings that the constitution provides for they would show the world that we are a nation of laws and that our democratic republic may have stumbled, but it hasn't failed. Impeachment would show the world that we do respect all laws, including international laws, and that we don't condone our leaders running a muck in the name of nationalism disguised as patriotism.

[DCKit]

26. Thanks for shooting down yet another of their bushit excuses so concisely merh!

Trust me, it's not in the air or the water here in DC. It's a conscious decision the Dem leadership has made to live in delusion, complacency and complicity.

[librechik]

38. so by NOT holding the hearings and

(as they fear, FAILING to impeach) they indefinitely postpone the knowledge of their incompetence from reaching the public, rather than confirm it right away.

[truth2power]

42. Another reason that theory doesn't fly..the world already knows

the US is a failed nation.

[Dr.Phool]

30. Well, Duhhh.

Ain't it obvious?

If your GPS goes off course in an airplane, you kinda look at you charts and switch to another navigation unit.

It's not a failed nation, it just needs a major course correction

[marmar]

13. I wish we had an intra-party Parliament....so we could have a No Confidence vote on Pelosi and Reid.

They both suck beyond comprehension. :argh:

[riderinthestorm]

14. Just so, so very discouraging.

I don't hold out any hope that we'll ever see any accountability for any of the crimes perpetuated under this Admin. Dem complicity is incredibly discouraging.

K & R, alas.

[RuleOfNah]

17. "show Conyers that he will have the support"

If Conyers acts yes, if he stalls again, no.

Lead or get out of the way.

[spanone]

18. kick & r

[EFerrari]

19. Kick

[Swamp Rat]

22. wow!

Look at all those hearts! :loveya: :hi:

[EFerrari]

24. I went looking for you the other day. There you are!

:hug:

:hi:

[Swamp Rat]

25. I'm not here

:D I am on a break from DU, but I broke my fast today in order to thank the givers my Valentine hearts. ;)

And to post two new pix:

[EFerrari]

27. Nancy is the angel at Junior's shoulder.

Spot on!

[cascadiance]

36. Yup the "Handmaid's Tale" nightmare continues!...

[Karenina]

31. Dems SAW the Abu Ghraib porno that has YET to be released

although I believe it's been 'ordered' by the "Courts" several times. Can you spell C-O-M-P-L-I-C-I-T-Y girls and boys? I KNEW you could. :grouphug:

[Joe Chi Minh]

32. Very telling cartoon of Mahood in yesterday's (UK) Daily Mail of two smiling young,

officers, smartly-uniformed and be-ribboned, standing talking to each other in front of the Pentagon. One is holding a medal and telling the other, "I got this one for turning a blind eye to Guantanamo."

[Octafish]

33. Steny "Wink Wink" Hoyer should go, as well, IMFO.

In many things, the guy acts like a Democrat.
What is inexcusable is he wants to keep the war going.
That's why I was for the old war hawk Murtha from PA as majority leader.

What backbone? "Wink wink."

[cascadiance]

37. And Rahm Emmanuel as well, in case he has ideas of taking over...

[leftchick]

34. duh! No Shit!

and don't for forget the "A...." involvement in the Sibel Edmonds case. All hell would break loose for the complicit dems if actual impeachment hearing started.

[Phred42]

35. Pelosi & Reid are Incompetant Traitors -They need to go.

[Jackpine Radical]

48. I bg to differ.

To date, they have proved themselves quite competent traitors.

[Phred42]

49. lol - you got me on that

:kick:

[rhett o rick]

39. We need to support a Democratic challange to Rep Pelosi for her next term. nm

[Kurovski]

43. K&R. (nt)

[KoKo]

44. K&R

[pleah]

46. If Dems were involved, they should be tried and convicted, also.

Good for Conyers. NO one is above the law.

[f the letter]

47. i don't doubt it for a second. Get rid of her! n/t

[fascisthunter]

50. Then We Must Push Conyers

"kill two birds with one stone" figuratively. Aid Conyers, get impeachment proceedings going and place Pelosi in a hard position all at the same time.

Pelosi... you disgust me and millions of others. Say good bye to your political career.

[L. Coyote]

51. Mukasey’s not allowing a criminal investigation KICK starts investigation in Congress!

There now exists "good reason" for Congress to proceed: "Mukasey ... will not allow a criminal investigation into the Bush torture program"

Thank you Mr. Mukasey for not stalling with the facts, and providing Congress what was needed to grab the ball and take over.