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Thu Feb-14-08 01:40 PM
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My First Post - I Thought that as you got |
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older you were supposed to become more conservative??
Not the way it is working for me, the older I am getting the more liberal and progressive I am becoming.
Got to be something there about maturity if you think about it.
Thank you.
And I enjoy DU!
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Thu Feb-14-08 01:41 PM
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:hi:
And I, too, as I have gotten older have become much more liberal!
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Thu Feb-14-08 03:02 PM
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18. Thank you so very much |
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I appreciate your welcome.
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Thu Feb-14-08 01:42 PM
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2. Welcome to DU, nels25! |
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Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 01:43 PM by babylonsister
:hi: The older I get, the angrier I get! That might have something to do with this admin though, so I hope I'll be settling down soon (though I have some doubts about that!).
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Thu Feb-14-08 03:04 PM
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19. Thank you for your welcome. |
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I am a USN disabled vet so I appreciated your signature statement.
Please do not get angry, it takes way to much out of you, (I know from unfortunate experience).
It can make you sick.
I would not want that to happen to you.
O8)
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Thu Feb-14-08 01:42 PM
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3. Wlecome to the DU family, nels25! |
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Thu Feb-14-08 03:08 PM
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I believe Jesus died for my sins but I do not believe he left me to be boss over others.
Each has to decide on his own terms.
I get a large degree of slice from my faith, but faith is not to be jammed down the throat of someone.
Thank GOd that it looks like the whole of Jesus teachings are begining to come back into style (IE: Jim Wallis - not sure if I spelled his last name correctly).
Thank you again!:toast:
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Thu Feb-14-08 01:42 PM
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4. welcome! as we get older, we (hopefully) get smarter -- it just so happens that |
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progressive populism is the wisdom we need right now.
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Thu Feb-14-08 03:09 PM
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21. Thank you for the welcome |
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and I can not argue your logic.:7
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Thu Feb-14-08 01:43 PM
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Thu Feb-14-08 03:12 PM
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22. Debi one of the best people in the whole |
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world (Commander John Rollof USN retired) retired to Mount Vernon Iowa.
He would always tell me of how much he loved being from Iowa and how much he enjoyed his childhood there.
He is well and truly an Hawkeye.
Gives me a lot of grief when Iowa beats the Badgers in any sport.
Thank you for the welcome.
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Thu Feb-14-08 04:06 PM
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45. I was born in Oshkosh, Wisconsin! |
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However after living in Iowa for over 20 years now, I am still a Packer fan...but no fan of Wisconsin :shrug:
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Thu Feb-14-08 01:45 PM
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6. Welcome to DU nels25 - settle in and let us get to know you. |
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Happy Valentine's day to you - I'm fresh out of hearts or I would give you one.
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Thu Feb-14-08 03:15 PM
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Hope some makes your valentine's day a good one. :hug:
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Thu Feb-14-08 01:45 PM
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7. Nah, I figure I'll be a commie socialist by the time I die.. |
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Thu Feb-14-08 03:16 PM
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don't you think that is becoming pase??
Thank you for the welcome.
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Thu Feb-14-08 01:49 PM
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I think the movement towards progressive values is a natural result of maturity ... when the aging person is not afflicted with fear. Fear is what drives most people towards conservatism, it seems. Let us be fearless together.
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Thu Feb-14-08 03:20 PM
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28. I do not know about fear |
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but while I was active duty it was sure easy to be somewhat conservative.
Many things a civilian has to deal with (health care, housing etc) were not as big an issue (course those were the years 1973 - 1990).
But let me tell you when I got out, oh brother did my eyes open.
Nuts I have just started to have a decent amount of pay (along with my wonderful bride) to do well.
Note: well does not equal rich (less than 75K combined) but enough to live comfortably at least the way I define it, which is en ought to pay my bills and go to ball game once in a while.
Thank you for your kind welcome to DU.:dem:
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Thu Feb-14-08 02:29 PM
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9. There are several reasons a person grows more conservative |
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1. Loss of brain cells from excessive pot smoking 2. Sudden fear that your children might have minds of their own 3. Realization that driving a hummer works just as good as viagra 4. Four decades of TV commercials finally convince you that you're an idiot 5. Sure, ideals and integrity are great, but this stock-option yacht is fun. Woohoo! 6. Anti-gay stance develops as the older you get, the less likely your closeted fantasies about hot young studs will come true 7. Desperate attempt to deflect blame for how fucked up the world is 8. Selfish realization that you won't be around to see it get more fucked up 9. As mental acuity diminishes, no longer able to fend off secret mind-controlling thought rays beamed out of TV during the O'Reilly Factor 10. Tie-Dyed shirts no longer fit
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Thu Feb-14-08 03:21 PM
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29. Thank you for your welcome. |
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Thu Feb-14-08 02:31 PM
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10. Welcome, friend! Glad you joined us. |
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Thu Feb-14-08 03:22 PM
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30. Thank you for your kind welcome |
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Thu Feb-14-08 02:31 PM
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11. Right on and WELCOME! |
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Thu Feb-14-08 02:42 PM
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13. There is a famous quote attributed to Winston Churchill... |
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Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 02:43 PM by IMModerate
“Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart, and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a brain.”
Actually there's no evidence that he ever said it. But it's often quoted anyway.
On edit: Oops, forgot. Congratulations on your first post! :toast:
--IMM
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Thu Feb-14-08 03:26 PM
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34. I have heard that quote |
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attributed to Churchill before.
Obviously I do not agree with it.
I am comfortable as a liberal and growing ever more progressive (without anger though).
Thank you for the welcome.
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Thu Feb-14-08 02:44 PM
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14. Know why that's not true anymore? |
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Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 02:44 PM by SoCalDem
A generation + ago, as we aged, MOST of us got more confortable, and a lot of people thought that the republicans would help them maintain their "wealth & prosperity"... but since the '80's people usually LOSE ground as they age...
We regained that sharp edge , because we end up fighting for every scrap our whole lives, instead of just when we're young & hungry..
Welcome to DU :hi:
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Thu Feb-14-08 03:30 PM
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35. Thank you for your welcome |
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Conservatism lost its small appeal to me when I got out of the USN and saw what it really means to have to scrape by for a living.
Took over 10 years to get into a good situation.
Conservative economics my rosy red A%$!
It will get better though (after the next 9 or so months) of that I am quite sure.
I do not think I will live to see a GOP president for a very long (since I am only 53 I imagine I will probably see one eventually but it will be quite a while, and when it does happen it will not look anything like what the GOP leadership of the last 30 years has been like). :toast:
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Thu Feb-14-08 02:49 PM
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15. welcome to DU , yes some older folks do succumb to the republican line |
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in their older age. Early onset dementia is my guess.
Ps. I'm looking at 60 any day.
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Thu Feb-14-08 03:32 PM
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and kind of chugging along.
Hope your health is good.
Thank you for your welcome.
:7
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Thu Feb-14-08 02:54 PM
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16. Depends on your definition of "conservative" |
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For instance, I no longer jump off a 3 foot wall, trusting to my young legs to catch me, but conservatively look, measure, then clamber down.
I find I am more tolerant of differences, having learned that there are many ways to the same end and what really counts is the intent along with my basic rules of don't hurt people, don't hurt things. The rest is window dressing.
That said, I find I am less tolerant of bullshit and people who do hurt people and things.
So, it depends on your definition of "conservative", the term having been co-opted by the fundamentalist republicanites in a wrong manner.
Welcome to DU.
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Thu Feb-14-08 03:17 PM
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I'm certainly "conservative" in the small-c sense of the word, just as I can see the benefit of small-r "republicanism."
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Thu Feb-14-08 03:34 PM
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37. Hey I really like your basic rules |
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I mirrors my outlook.
I want good things to happen to people and I do want them to hurt (okay maybe Osama), but I want people to have peaceful and happy lives as much as that is possible.
I do want the bad guys to win.
Thank you for the welcome.:toast:
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Thu Feb-14-08 05:03 PM
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When I was in high school, I was a conservative (or I thought I was.) The Vietnam war cured that. But in some ways, I retained that conservatism, as in adhering to principle, (when it's rational,) withholding judgment, and not acting rashly.
Right you are about co-optation of words. Orwell smiles at you. :)
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Thu Feb-14-08 03:01 PM
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Are you people ever making me feel welcome.
I can not tell you how nice that makes me feel.
I hope I can return the favor.
From the bottom of my heart thank you all on this valentine day.
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Thu Feb-14-08 03:13 PM
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Glad to have you on board! :hi:
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Thu Feb-14-08 03:16 PM
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25. I outgrew conservative, too. |
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Being a conservative requires belief in utter nonsense, like "Tax Cuts Always Raise Revenues!" and "Government is not the solution, government is the problem."
It also requires reading the editorial wankery of Forbes and the WSJ, and imagining that all those uppity coloreds and womenfolk will learn to know their place if you just remind them of it now and again.
I couldn't do that for long. No sensible person can.
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Thu Feb-14-08 03:39 PM
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39. Could not agree with you more |
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never thought the Bush tax cuts were a good idea, government is the solution to some problems simply because their is no other mechanism to solve some problems due to their sheer size.
Nuts I love my wife she is my equal not my slave, what sheer lunacy to mistreat your wife.
Have nothing against minorities in fact going to vote for one next tuesday with extreme enthusiasm.
Thank you for you welcome:hi:
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Thu Feb-14-08 03:16 PM
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26. The best quote I have ever read on here goes something like this... |
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"as a youth, I was conservative. As a man, I was liberal. As an old crow, I'm a bomb throwing anarchist!".
:)
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Thu Feb-14-08 03:40 PM
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40. Don't want to sling bombs |
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however voting republicans out office all over the place would be quite acceptable.
Thank you for the welcome.
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