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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:04 PM
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Intel Chair (Reyes) to Bush on FISA: I will not back down to you
Congressman Silvestre Reyes, Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, sent a letter to President Bush regarding the ongoing battle over warrantless wiretapping.

Text of the letter follows below.


President George W. Bush

The White House

1600 Pennsylvania Ave., NW

Washington, DC 20500

Dear Mr. President:

The Preamble to our Constitution states that one of our highest duties as public officials is to "provide for the common defence." As an elected Member of Congress, a senior Member of the House Armed Services Committee, and Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, I work everyday to ensure that our defense and intelligence capabilities remain strong in the face of serious threats to our national security.

Because I care so deeply about protecting our country, I take strong offense to your suggestion in recent days that the country will be vulnerable to terrorist attack unless Congress immediately enacts legislation giving you broader powers to conduct warrantless surveillance of Americans' communications and provides legal immunity for telecommunications companies that participated in the Administration's warrantless surveillance program.

Today, the National Security Agency (NSA) has authority to conduct surveillance in at least three different ways, all of which provide strong capability to monitor the communications of possible terrorists.

First, NSA can use its authority under Executive Order 12333 to conduct surveillance abroad of any known or suspected terrorist. There is no requirement for a warrant. There is no requirement for probable cause. Most of NSA's collection occurs under this authority.

Second, NSA can use its authority under the Protect America Act, enacted last August, to conduct surveillance here in the U.S of any foreign target. This authority does not "expire" on Saturday, as you have stated. Under the PAA, orders authorizing surveillance may last for one year – until at least August 2008. These orders may cover every terrorist group without limitation. If a new member of the group is identified, or if a new phone number or email address is identified, the NSA may add it to the existing orders, and surveillance can begin immediately. We will not "go dark."

Third, in the remote possibility that a new terrorist organization emerges that we have never previously identified, the NSA could use existing authority under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) to monitor those communications. Since its establishment nearly 30 years ago, the FISA Court has approved nearly every application for a warrant from the Department of Justice. In an emergency, NSA or the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) may begin surveillance immediately, and a FISA Court order does not have to be obtained for three days. The former head of FISA operations for the Department of Justice has testified publicly that emergency authorization may be granted in a matter of minutes.

As you know, the 1978 FISA law, which has been modernized and updated numerous times since 9/11, was instrumental in disrupting the terrorist plot in Germany last summer. Those who say that FISA is outdated do not understand the strength of this important tool.

If our nation is left vulnerable in the coming months, it will not be because we don't have enough domestic spying powers. It will be because your Administration has not done enough to defeat terrorist organizations – including al Qaeda -- that have gained strength since 9/11. We do not have nearly enough linguists to translate the reams of information we currently collect. We do not have enough intelligence officers who can penetrate the hardest targets, such as al Qaeda. We have surged so many intelligence resources into Iraq that we have taken our eye off the ball in Afghanistan and Pakistan. As a result, you have allowed al Qaeda to reconstitute itself on your watch.

You have also suggested that Congress must grant retroactive immunity to telecommunications companies. As someone who has been briefed on our most sensitive intelligence programs, I can see no argument why the future security of our country depends on whether past actions of telecommunications companies are immunized.

The issue of telecom liability should be carefully considered based on a full review of the documents that your Administration withheld from Congress for eight months. However, it is an insult to the intelligence of the American people to say that we will be vulnerable unless we grant immunity for actions that happened years ago.

Congress has not been sitting on its hands. Last November, the House passed responsible legislation to authorize the NSA to conduct surveillance of foreign terrorists and to provide clarity and legal protection to our private sector partners who assist in that surveillance.

The proper course is now to conference the House bill with the Senate bill that was passed on Tuesday. There are significant differences between these two bills and a conference, in regular order, is the appropriate mechanism to resolve the differences between these two bills. I urge you, Mr. President, to put partisanship aside and allow Republicans in Congress to arrive at a compromise that will protect America and protect our Constitution.

I, for one, do not intend to back down – not to the terrorists and not to anyone, including a President, who wants Americans to cower in fear.

We are a strong nation. We cannot allow ourselves to be scared into suspending the Constitution. If we do that, we might as well call the terrorists and tell them that they have won.

Sincerely,

Silvestre Reyes
Member of Congress
Chairman, House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence


Link: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Intel_chair_to_Bush_on_FISA_0214.html
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:10 PM
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1. Excellent....K&R. n/t
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:12 PM
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2. How about that! This is how a Leader and a Patriot Speaks!
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:14 PM
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3. Though I agree with the sentiment of the letter, Reyes has certainly not been a hero
to progressives.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:53 PM
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48. Perhaps the building anger to the boil over of the constituents of straying
dems is finally getting home to them
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:14 PM
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4. Congressman Reyes seems to be operating under the illusion
that GW is the least bit interested in honesty or reality. We out here are operating under no such illusions. The stock in trade for this white house has been smoke & mirrors from the beginning.
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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:15 PM
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5. Very well said!!!!
:kick:

recommended

impressed!!!
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:16 PM
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6. WOW!
Ouch! Think he will actually read it? I'd love to be the fly on the wall to see the look on his face when reading someone who has the gonads to tell it like it is.

In particular -
snip -

If our nation is left vulnerable in the coming months, it will not be because we don't have enough domestic spying powers. It will be because your Administration has not done enough to defeat terrorist organizations – including al Qaeda -- that have gained strength since 9/11. We do not have nearly enough linguists to translate the reams of information we currently collect. We do not have enough intelligence officers who can penetrate the hardest targets, such as al Qaeda. We have surged so many intelligence resources into Iraq that we have taken our eye off the ball in Afghanistan and Pakistan. As a result, you have allowed al Qaeda to reconstitute itself on your watch.

You have also suggested that Congress must grant retroactive immunity to telecommunications companies. As someone who has been briefed on our most sensitive intelligence programs, I can see no argument why the future security of our country depends on whether past actions of telecommunications companies are immunized.

The issue of telecom liability should be carefully considered based on a full review of the documents that your Administration withheld from Congress for eight months. However, it is an insult to the intelligence of the American people to say that we will be vulnerable unless we grant immunity for actions that happened years ago.

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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:17 PM
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7. Bush is "the" Terrorist
Just like Hitler, he tries to scare the people and it's government to do as Bush wishes.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:57 PM
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16. * is our biggest threat.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:57 PM
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17. * is our biggest threat.
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Psyop Samurai Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:20 PM
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8. OMG!!... (putting Congressman Reyes on my buddy list) .nt
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:21 PM
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9. Excellent letter!
Especially the last paragraph!

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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:30 PM
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10. Congressman Reyes is a great American.
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 10:31 PM by Brigid
And he knows more about keeping This country safe from terrorism than the Bush regime ever will. :patriot:

Oh, and K & R. :kick:
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:32 PM
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11. Sad that their aren't hundreds of responses.
K&R
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El Pinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:32 PM
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12. And Reyes represents the fine city of EL PASO...
...ever the red-headed stepchild of Texas. But I'm proud to be from here.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:57 PM
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39. Si
And as a Texan, he speaks for all of us with this letter.

I applaud him and you too. I love El Paso.


Sonia
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:49 PM
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13. Finally! We need
more like him. There's a backbone in there! Pretzelnut is acting like he's going to cancel his "long-planned" trip to safe countries in Africa in order to push his snooper legislation. People are starting to call him out on his lies and childish, but dangerous antics.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:51 PM
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14. K & R "you have allowed al Qaeda to reconstitute itself on your watch"
WOW! "...suspending the Constitution. If we do that, we might as well call the terrorists and tell them that they have won."
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:55 PM
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15. finally someone has the guts to stand up to this devious and
arrogant fratboy!!! I hope more will follow Mr. Reyes lead.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:58 PM
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18. Great letter. Why so late to the party?
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:12 PM
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19. Good! Another letter!
Just what we need!

And?... AND???

crickets crickets crickets
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:27 PM
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20. Oh wow! another scathing letter....
...that's gonna hurt :sarcasm:
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:43 PM
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21. I actually felt electricity down my back reading the last lines!!!
THAT is a helluva' lot better than feeling my heart being forced into my stomach, over and over and fucking OVER again by this administration's ABUSE: DOMESTIC ABUSE OVER THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!!

HOOOO-RAHHHHHH!!!! :patriot:
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:04 AM
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29. Well that is not as bad as Tweety who got a thrill up his leg listening to Obama

During MSNBC's live coverage of Tuesday's presidential primary elections, after the speeches of Barack Obama and John McCain had aired, Chris Matthews expressed his latest over the top admiration for Obama's speaking skills as the MSNBC anchor admitted that Obama's speech created a "thrill" in his leg, "It's part of reporting this case, this election, the feeling most people get when they hear Barack Obama's speech. My, I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don't have that too often." To which Olbermann said "Steady" Minutes later, Brian Williams poked fun at Matthews' confession: "Let's talk about that feeling Chris gets up his leg when Obama talks ... That seems to be the headline of this half hour." (Transcript follows)

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:51 PM
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22. Another good man
when the good finally do stand up they stand mighty tall as is Representative Reyes. All these congress critters have taken an oath to preserve and protect that which holds this democracy together, someone needs to remind most of them of that very thing.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:37 AM
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23. Wow! I can't believe my eyes. Spectacular.
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:06 AM
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24. This is indeed heartening. It would appear the House is NOT rolling over for * on this one. nt
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:16 AM
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25. Great letter
About time they stood up.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:46 AM
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26. More Public Masturbation ... Pathetic
That's really the most unseemly symptom of raging Impeachophobia.

The efforts to publicly pretend that one is not really another impotent, whining chump who's failing to defend the Constitution.

Do these folks really believe that bushcheney do anything other than cackle into the night at these false bravado shows -- secure in the knowledge than any real accountability remains "off the table?"

---

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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:57 AM
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27. May the House continue to wear its cajones with pride. Too bad about the Senate - poyos
Don't let 'em push you around, Silvestre. Stand con fuerte.
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:04 AM
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28. k/r n/t
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:12 AM
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30. Nice! This is the kind of person we need leading the charge.
How do we clone this person? What state is this man from?
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:48 AM
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31. K&R
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:58 AM
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32. I'm not sure we should berate the letters. If we get to an impeachment
or if there are civil lawsuits, the letters can show what Congress told the President what he was doing wrong. Our problems are the votes. The letters aprovide good documentation and very acceptable historical content, it's their votes that wipe evrything good away.

We have planted Republicans in the Democratic leadership, there can be no other explanation.

Makes you wonder about some of the Dems - were they 'allowed' to win?

The entire country knows that the war was a lie. The approval rating of Dick and George is abysmal. Whose constituents are these 20 Senators appealing to?

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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:00 AM
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33. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, tekisui.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:02 AM
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34. Just wow
As a result, you have allowed al Qaeda to reconstitute itself on your watch.

I think I'm in love. :wow:
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:28 AM
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35. That is a beautifully crafted letter!
I hope it gets published in some major papers.
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aggiesal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:44 AM
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36. Someone please send this to the ...
Democratic Senators that allowed their version of the FISA Bull
to pass.

Maybe they can learn something.

Ooops, my bad. They're paid for by the telecom companies.
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Juan_de_la_Dem Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:57 AM
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37. Zinger!
This should be posted on the front page of every paper and news org in the nation.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:44 PM
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38. Thank you!!
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:59 PM
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40. I think I just had an orgasm
:)
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:15 PM
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41. Great letter.
Should be mandatory homework reading for every American. I think progress is being made when House Committee Chairmen begin sounding like Keith Olbermann.
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FATCATs Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:34 PM
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42. I will beliove it when I see it
The onus is on the Democratic leadership or lack of in the House

Not the rank and file such as us.

How many times have we come to the edge of putting these
lying bastards in their place only to be foiled by some
back room deal latter on.

They say they are finally going to follow the Constitutional
Mandate and do their jobs ?

I say Bullshit, Prove It !
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:58 PM
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43. Re-elect Reyes!
I don't know whom he represents, but re-elect him now for as long as the law allows. Here's a leader with guts.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:11 PM
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44. Stop quoting that Goddamned Piece of Paper (tm) to Bush..
He does not recognize its authority.
He declares himself unbeholden to it.
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Bluestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:02 PM
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45. Wow, who is Congressman Reyes? I want to contribute to his campaign
Imagine, a real American right there in the U.S. Congress! Such a refreshing breath of air.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:37 PM
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46. proud to be the 100 K&R!
Damn, Congresscritter, I am (finally) proud of something our House has done to correct the excesses of these criminals.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:43 PM
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47. He makes an excellent point...

it's almost like al Qaeda is allowed to thrive so that we will have a reason to invade other nations. Where will al Qaeda strike next? What does the Bush Family Evil Empire have up its sleeve?
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 07:41 PM
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53. You are only realizing this now?
Saddam was allowed to survive, when he could have been overthrown after the first Gulf War, because keeping him around made a convenient boogeyman.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:10 AM
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56. No, I've pretty much realized this for a long time...

I just think its important to spell things out sometimes, especially around election time, so that everyone understands.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:02 PM
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49. BRAVO..Congressman Reyes!!!. ........................
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:09 PM
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50. Far too many words, and no pictures...
Congress should submit letters to Dubya in pop-up book form.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:17 PM
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51. AWESOME!!!!
good to see someone with BACKBONE who will stand up to the little hitler.
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stopwastingmymoney Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 07:20 PM
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52. Bloody Fantastic !
thank you for posting
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mysteryman2 Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:37 PM
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54. Katrina
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 08:37 PM by mysteryman2
They could have all the powers in the world they are not security minded people. Look at Katrina they can't evacuate americans here. They can evacuate Americans in Israel. They arte incompetent. They probally have you real scared.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/18/AR2006071800413.html

Then they give you trashed out trailers. We had five shootings this week. Did you know America has the highest incarceration rate in the world.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0818/p02s01-usju.html

They need to tighten up domestically. They are spending all the money on arrest and detention not corrections. A recipe for disaster. The corrections field needs straightened up. Some of the prisons they have are outdated. Instead of rebuild Iraq lets rebuild prisons, jails, and handle crime domestically. We don't need Osama there are domestic terrorists. Before Osama struck the worse case of terrorism was the Oklahoma City Bombing. They haven't even caught the Anthrax killer.

We have hate groups here and which candidate is going to handle business. It's not the republicans they are to busy rebuilding Iraq while things slip in the USA.

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:49 PM
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55. A most excellent letter! Thanks for posting it!
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