Cops search houses for guns and tax rebates are now loans

[undergroundpanther]

Hello friendly fascism and not so friendly fraud.Fuck!

Police set to search for guns at homes,

As Boston police prepare to go into some of the city's most dangerous neighborhoods, knock on doors of private houses, and ask if they can search for illegal guns without a warrant, officials are trying to pitch the idea of the plan as friendly cooperation to residents who still see it as a threatening intrusion.


A friendly looking logo - a drawing of a house surrounded by the sun - adorns the brochure police have drafted to explain and promote the initiative, "Safe Homes." Photos of officers playing baseball with children and chatting with teenagers dot the pamphlet. Twice, police have taken calls from listeners on a black radio station in Roxbury.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2008/02/09/police_set_to_search_for_guns_at_homes/

Don't cash that rebate check...
In what one Russian Economist has stated is ‘the most massive fraud in human history’, the United States has targeted its own war weary citizens for financial destruction with the passage of new law that the American people, being told by their propaganda media organs, believe will give them tax rebate checks up to $1,200.00.
this new US Law, titled “Recovery Rebates and Economic Stimulus for the American People Act of 2008”, and to be signed into law by President Bush, does not, in fact, give any money at all to the American people, but instead is a loan on taxes for money earned by US citizens during 2008.
...in the very words used in this new law, and which says: “SEC. 6428. 2008 RECOVERY REBATES FOR INDIVIDUALS.`(a) In General- In the case of an eligible individual, there shall be allowed as a credit against the tax imposed by subtitle A for the first taxable year beginning in 2008 an amount equal to the lesser of--`(1) net income tax liability, or`(2) $600 ($1,200 in the case of a joint return).”

An American economist, Peter Morici from the University of Maryland, has also noted the odd ‘coincidence’ that the amount of monies under this new law equal the massive losses incurred by US banks from their loan debacles, and as he states:

“It’s a good thing , but it’s not enough to head off recession. We’re talking about $150 billion, so this roughly offsets what the banks have lost” in soured housing investments."



http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/banking_and_taxation_irs/news.php?q=1202523561

WTF??!! We pay double time because of business greed,fraud and incompetence!!! Fuck that! We should confiscate it from the rich and the CEO 's golden parachutes after all it is these rich fuckers spending like crazy on bullshit and wars and defrauding every safety net and other peoples paychecks they can that isn't nailed down..

[greenvpi]

1. It's great to see the Boston police do such good!

If every police officer in the country would do the same we would all be safer. All of the cops I know feel the same way. The really want to do good by going door to door, but the typically Republican and white bosses won't allow them to protect us. Instead those poor men and women are only allowed to clean-up after some gun has taken a life.

[benEzra]

2. Are you being sarcastic?

Warrantless fishing expeditions are OK with you?

Parents don't need the police to search their own kids' rooms...

What a lot of people don't realize is that if you consent to a warrantless search inside your home, you lose ALL of your 4th Amendment protections. All of them. The police no longer need probable cause, they can search anything they see, and anything they find is admissible in court. And this will probably be targeted at minorities, who will probably NOT be informed about their rights under the law and the ramifications of waiving them.

Throwing away the Fourth Amendment and putting a friendly face on it is quite Orwellian, and straight out of the Bush admin's playbook. It appears that "guns" are the new "terrah."

[Ikonoklast]

11. Want to bet those cops will find drugs, too?

I'm sure that every house searched will turn up a stash of some kind, leading to the arrest of every adult in the residence.

And we all know that the saints in law enforcement never, ever plant evidence.

Especially on minority suspects.

This seems like testing the wind to see how far they can push warrantless search and seizure.

[jmg257]

3. You are joking right? Agents of the state using intimidation to search homes at random?

THAT is good police work in your mind?

Well - I guess if we have nothing to hide, and if it's all for the children...:sarcasm:

(psst - they KNOW who have the illegal guns, and they know who most of the offenders are - the system doesn't do enough about it)

[Realityhack]

4. Not to defend the strategy...

but I think that is the point. They have suspicions about who has guns (known gang members etc.) but do not have enough information for a warrant so they ask the parents to search the house.

I agree that this is not the way to go about things but I think it may be a little unfair to simultaneously complain that 'the system' doesn't do enough while bashing a plan that was probobly started innocently by people just trying to find something they can do about the problem.

[jmg257]

6. A majority of the offenders are repeat offenders, are on probation, have serious criminal

histories, previous gun violations, etc. Getting them is not the problem, dealing with them effectively is.


"In the Summer of 1999, the New Haven Gun Project implemented several new strategies to attack violent gun crime in the City of New Haven. The selection of strategies relied in significant part on extensive research into the specific nature and dimensions of incidents of murder, assault with a firearm, armed robbery, the unlawful firing of firearms and unlawful firearm possession. ...

Some of the data presented included:

A large percentage of offenders and victims were 15-21 years of age.

Most offenders had serious criminal histories.

One fifth of offenders had been arrested for a prior gun offense, and three-fifths had a history of drug charges.

Over one third of the offenders were on probation at the time of the new gun-related offense.

Approximately one-third of offenders or victims associated with murders and armed assaults were members of neighborhood "groups" believed to be involved in other illegal activities. "

[Realityhack]

7. I have to be honest...

I really don't know enough about the current rash of violence in Boston to comment intelegently on the degree to which it is being driven by repeat offenders vs. youth etc.

[jmg257]

9. Honestly - me neither - I would think it is fairly typical though. nt

[greenvpi]

12. Thank you jmg257

I'm still shocked that people here are defending those violent gun owners.

[MrCoffee]

5. I'm definately inviting you on my next fishing trip.

[hootinholler]

10. I was gonna take him hunting.

:evilgrin:

-Hoot

[alarimer]

8. Oh sure police ALWAYS have our best interests at heart

:sarcasm:

[pinniped]

13. They would also search every car on the road if they could get away with it.

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