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Smith_3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:36 AM Original message |
Do "liberals" seem "uppidy" to working class? |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. It has nothing, really, to do with Liberalism |
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enigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:57 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. yep |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:47 AM Response to Original message |
2. I think some of it has to do with the near-death of the |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Agreed....there used to be safety in numbers |
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Smith_3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:53 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Sounds like there is something to that. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:20 AM Response to Reply #2 |
31. Agreed and very well-put. nt |
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Fading Captain (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #2 |
43. Bill Clinton deserves some kudos on that one too! |
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jeff30997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:56 AM Response to Original message |
5. that drives people to vote for someone who seems to be more like "one of them". |
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AlertLurker (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #5 |
47. How many times did we elect Mulroney again? |
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jeff30997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #47 |
61. Yep! |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:01 AM Response to Original message |
7. Are liberals 'uppitey'? LMAO!! Hell...NO!!! Please read the link! |
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Smith_3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:04 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Hmm, defining Liberal as "Anti-Reagen" is probably a good common ground to start from. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:08 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. I meant this link! LOL! |
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Afje (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:39 AM Response to Original message |
9. "Uppity" as in not knowing their proper place on the |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:20 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Great sarcastic analogy! |
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Afje (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:19 AM Response to Reply #18 |
41. Yes, I'm convinced that this lack of respect for the status |
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trusty elf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:58 AM Response to Reply #9 |
20. It ain't the craw of the great American sheep that has something stuck in it. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:04 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. O_M_G ! ! |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
64. there is the answer |
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trusty elf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. So, this is an example liberal arrogance in your view? |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. self evident I think |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
71. now that's a picture i'm not likely to forget! n/t |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:41 AM Response to Original message |
10. What an incredibly bigoted question. |
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casus belli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:44 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Relax...it's a legit question. |
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Smith_3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:45 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Umm, no. I am trying to point out something. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:12 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Spoken like a 'True' Yuppie ... |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:44 AM Response to Original message |
12. It's the Rush, O'Lielly, Robertson and Faux news effect: Brainwashing at it's worst! nt |
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casus belli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:08 AM Response to Original message |
15. It's an intentional misinformation campaign |
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Smith_3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:38 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. A very nice explanation. Helped me alot to understand it. |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
72. a favorite thread of mine: what made you a liberal? here's the link |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:08 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Awesome response!! |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #15 |
55. Well put. n/t |
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Nay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #15 |
57. You're completely correct, CB, and may I add that this "logic" of |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:12 AM Response to Original message |
17. Liberals ARE the working class. |
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JohnnyBoots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #17 |
45. Yeah, but perception is reality...that is where the problem lay. n/t |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:39 AM Response to Original message |
23. A virulent stream of anti-intellectualism... |
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Smith_3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:43 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. The ironic part is that strong anti-intellectualism was also very widespread in the Soviet Union. |
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pintobean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #23 |
56. We all suffer from ignorance. |
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Snarkturian Clone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
24. I think sometimes |
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Rockholm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
26. Real Liberals can spell Uppity. |
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Smith_3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:58 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Uppity can be spelled Uppidy. |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
27. heh. my two closest 'ditto-head' kin think that they are somehow better then other people |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
28. There are no working-class Liberals? News to me. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:48 AM Response to Reply #28 |
39. Agreed! I know a few upper class yuppie "liberals" who aren't very liberal at all |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
30. It’s the march to self-destruction that began with rejecting the war on poverty. nt |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
32. Decades of anti-liberal propaganda, coupled with a hatred for those who are conscientious & tolerant |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
33. I don't know, maybe it has something to do with the hatred for them? |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:42 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. The terms "liberal" and "conservative" have, in many ways, morphed into a typical "middle" American |
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Smith_3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:47 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Please get over my spelling. nt |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #33 |
66. Just how do the Democrats make it clear that they are unwanted? |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
34. It is a class thing |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #34 |
69. I fully agree and welcome to DU n/t |
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LeftinOH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
36. Who says the working class can't be liberal?? Anyone can be liberal, regardless of 'status'. |
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El Pinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
38. I don't have any personal animosity towards liberals, but I don't consider myself one. |
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elizfeelinggreat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
40. I highly recommend |
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Fading Captain (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
42. Maybe it's all the "liberals" in Hondas,Toyotas and Subarus |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #42 |
53. My Toyota was built in the US. n/t |
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JohnnyBoots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
44. After years of the latte drinking, volvo driving, yuppie frame being |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
46. Not all liberals - but, Rush, Fox, etc make some liberals appear |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
48. I'm a working class liberal, so... |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
49. Funny, I thought we 'liberals' were the working class. |
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Smith_3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Yup. I guess alot of it lies in the behaviour of Democratic representatives. nt |
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El Pinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Historically, liberals were upper and upper-middle class folks with a conscience... |
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SalviaBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
51. I am the working class |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
54. Just direct dad to www.opensecrets.org |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
58. I AM a WORKING CLASS LIBERAL! Enough with this Stereotype! |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
59. I think your terms are confused. Many working class are liberals. |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #59 |
70. According to the MSM, it does |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
60. they dont want to share |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
62. First of all, we need a definition of Liberal. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
63. yes |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
68. I don't like the way you've framed this. |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
73. well when they drive around in massive Suv's and cry |
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