BBC Asks Bush- Does Fact That You Torture Mean US Still Holds High Moral Ground?--BUSH: "Absolutely"

[kpete]

waterboarding is illegal. Stephen Bradbury, head of the justice department's office of legal counsel, giving evidence to a congressional committee, said: "Let me be clear, though: There has been no determination by the justice department that the use of waterboarding, under any circumstances, would be lawful under current law."

In the BBC interview, Bush was asked whether, given waterboarding and other alleged human rights abuses, he could claim the US still occupied the moral high ground. He replied: "Absolutely."

He added: "We believe in human rights and human dignity. We believe in the human condition. We believe in freedom. And we're willing to take the lead. We're willing to ask nations to do hard things. We're willing to accept responsibilities. And - yeah, no question in my mind, it's a nation that's a force for good.

"And history will judge the decisions made during this period of time as necessary decisions."

more at:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/15/terrorism.usa1

[Virginia Dare]

1. Bush is a man who was born 500 years behind the times...n/t

[ixion]

2. We, the People believe in those things, but Bush most certainly does not

and I wish he would stop using us as a shield for his sadistic tendencies. :grr:

[Stuart G]

3. He is delusional. (nt)

[gratuitous]

4. English isn't your first language, is it Mr. Bush?

Yeah, "history will judge" is Bush's favorite refuge. "You'll all understand some day," the sullen teen-ager pouts while his fuming parents want to know how the car got wrecked.

[Mike Daniels]

5. Seriously, what the fuck else is he going to say?

If he says his ill-thought out plan re: Iraq is the one thing most directly responsible for creating the clusterfuck that's now in full effect he kisses any hoped for " delayed effect positive legacy" good-bye.

I guarantee that unless Bush basically says "we fucked Iraq up but good" you'll have Coulter, Limbaugh and Hannity presenting Bush as the great hero of the Middle East in about 20 years no matter how FUBAR'ed it becomes.

It's the same reason he can't acknowledge that his actions have damaged our credibility or ability to carry the moral high ground for years to come.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

6. Mr. Bush, are you criminally insane?

Absolutely.

[spanone]

7. he is correct...history will judge his ass

[Jack Rabbit]

8. Bush lives in the moral universe of Mickey Spillane

Spillane was the creator of Mike Hammer, a private eye who would just as soon bust a bad guy in his cajones rather than turn him over to the courts.

Defending that kind of moral universe can only lead to the kind of double talk see hear from Bush in the lead post. "We believe in human rights and human dignity . . . . We're willing to ask nations to do hard things . . . . (America is) a force for good. And history will judge the decisions made during this period of time as necessary decisions."

We believe in human rights, therefore we violate them; We are a force for good, therefore we torture because it is necessary.

This is a slight unmeritable man,
Meet to be sent on errands: is it fit,
The three-fold world divided, he should stand
One of the three to share it?
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -- Julius Caesar, 4.1

The sad thing is that this little slight, unmertable man is of such small intellect that he cannot see that contradictions in what he says. And he was chosen to lead the "free" world.

[whosinpower]

9. History will judge alright

History will judge based on ACTIONS and CONSEQUENCES - not pretty words as human dignity and human rights and freedom and being a force for good.

[Brigid]

10. The man is delusional.

Completely out of touch with reality. Is it January 20, 2009, yet? :banghead:

[cornermouse]

11. He's nuts.

[Supersedeas]

12. necessary -- meaning that the a 'papering up' the justifications for torture

[Rex]

13. Okay it is official, George has LOST IT.

What a ratshit crazy man he is! I'm surprised anyone can even stomach to be around him! What stones on that galoot. To criminally lie over and over.

[LynnTheDem]

14. Not one sane person on this entireplanet equates TORTURE with MORAL HIGH GROUND.

Which is why George W. bUsh (and his rightwingnut morans) do.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

15. Absolutely!

[Arctic Dave]

16. I don't even think that was a real question.

I think the BBC was just fucking with him. The rest of the world knows what kind of brain dead idiot he is. I think they are just amusing them selfs now by having him show how out of touch he is with reality. And he is more then willing to comply.