THUNDER HANDS
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Fri Feb-15-08 03:38 PM
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Can Someone Explain To Me Why We Can Go After Businesses That Hire Illegal Immigrants |
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because illegal immigrants are committing a crime for being here and working here illegally.
But we can't go after gun stores or gun manufacturers when their product is used in the commission of a crime?
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Tesha
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Fri Feb-15-08 03:39 PM
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1. Because gun laws, thousands though they may be, are all carefully crafted to be useless. |
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Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 03:41 PM by Tesha
Because gun laws, thousands though they may be, are all carefully crafted to be useless. And where they are not useless, they are limited in scope (so one state has tight regulations but is surrounded by neighbors with loose reg- ulations.) And where they're not limited in scope, they're arranged to be conflicting.
This is what happens when you allow the lobbyists (paid and unpaid) for an industry to write the laws that regulate that industry.
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niyad
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Fri Feb-15-08 03:39 PM
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2. because manufacturing guns isn't illegal? |
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Fri Feb-15-08 03:41 PM
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3. I just don't believe we can get there from here |
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Fri Feb-15-08 03:41 PM
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Fri Feb-15-08 03:43 PM
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5. Let's go after auto manufactures because of deaths caused by drivers DUI |
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Fri Feb-15-08 03:43 PM
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6. So we should have backround checks before we can own an illegal alien? |
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Just kidding :), but the analogy wasnt a good one.
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Fri Feb-15-08 03:43 PM
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7. There's no constritutional amendment protecting the illegal immigrants |
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Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 03:44 PM by YOY
or their employers.
That's why.
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Fri Feb-15-08 03:43 PM
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8. Because a gun is a legal product and |
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we have a right to keep and bare arms. If I go out and run down 5 people with my Toyota should we be able to go after Toyota because their product is used in the commission of a crime.
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THUNDER HANDS
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Fri Feb-15-08 03:55 PM
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12. should an auto dealer be gone after if he sells a car to a intoxicated person |
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or someone who otherwise shouldn't be driving?
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Fri Feb-15-08 04:06 PM
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16. That's ridiculous, if that's the way all Obamians |
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think the Republicans will have you for lunch. Just take the position supporting illegal immigration and gun confiscation and we will see 8 more years of Republican control.
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Fri Feb-15-08 03:44 PM
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9. two words -- political contributions |
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After all, when the gun lobby has their own personal *trained seals* in Congress, you can bet you'll see a gazillion laws enacted to *protect* the stores and manufacturers.
Oh yeah, you cannot forget those 2nd ammendment wanks, either. :eyes:
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Fri Feb-15-08 03:45 PM
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10. If gun stores sell guns illegally |
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They are prosecuted and/or lose their license. The problem is we don't put enough manpower into it because they cry to the NRA. We have to go after pot stores in San Francisco.
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Fri Feb-15-08 03:46 PM
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Fri Feb-15-08 03:56 PM
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13. Er, what? How is this even remotely comparable? |
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It isn't a crime to sell a gun as long as they follow applicable laws regarding background checks or waiting periods, etc...
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Fri Feb-15-08 04:00 PM
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14. What have you been smoking?? |
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Actions taken against employers for hiring illegal workers has gone down 95% under Dubya. I think the other 5% must be real bad offenders, like they also contribute to Democrats.
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Fri Feb-15-08 04:06 PM
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15. So we should go after |
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box cutter manufacturers because of 9/11?
We go after businesses that hire illegal immigrants not because the immigrants are committing crimes but because the business is committing a crime. It's illegal to hire an employee. It's not illegal to manufacture guns. It seems like a very apple to oranges type argument to me.
A counter example to guns is: it's illegal to make crystal meth and we go after businesses that make this product.
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Fri Feb-15-08 04:18 PM
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17. Because hiring people in the country illegally is illegal, |
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