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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:27 PM
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How many flip-flops has McCain made?Help me list them for my next LTTE
please add to this thread with sources...thanks
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:28 PM
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1. Supporting Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:30 PM
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2. here's an older article,listing several
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:34 PM
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3. flip-flopping on Bush's war rhetoric
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:39 PM
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campaign financing
heard he's going to opt out of fed funds for it... so he won't have a spending limit
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:39 PM
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4. I don't know if Flip Flops hurt Republicans they way they do Democrats
I'm not sure why that is - i guess if he flip flopped away from Republican orthodoxy (i.e. went from being pro torture to being anti torture) it'd be different - but any time you agree with a Republican, they like it?

I don't know.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:40 PM
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5. Here's one just posted:
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:45 PM
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6. Might not hurt to ask why the only two Presidents to balance the budget
in the last eighty years have been Democrats and since the great depression every recession America has experienced has been under Republican Administrations. Ask what McCain has offered that would change that trend..
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:46 PM
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7. I plan to include the deficit and proposed further tax cuts...
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:48 PM
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8. I just made a video about some of them
Not to mention his sheer insanity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_p3I-w7Coo
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:56 PM
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9. awesome video-I rated it 5 stars!
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 10:15 PM
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18. Thanks! n/t
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:03 PM
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10.  DNC has a few
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:38 PM
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11.  Neither the best, nor the brightest
Neither the best, nor the brightest


February 18, 2008
by Ben Tanosborn
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It must have been Harry S. Truman, the plainest amongst our plain presidents, who scared us all into having idiots running our government by saying: "Whenever you have an efficient government, you have a dictatorship." Of course, he failed to acknowledge the possibility that we could have the worst of both worlds: inefficient government and dictatorship. And at this moment, we seem to be marching in step to get there soon.

Are our nation's best and brightest so repulsed by the bureaucracy in the public sector that decidedly prefer to take up arms running the predatory wing of the private sector?

Maybe some of the "brightest" are doing that, but they cannot also be called "best" while allowing themselves to be corrupted by a heartless capitalism equally ready to reward its bright leaders as it is to deny countless people from sharing the economic trough.

It does look more and more as if both public and private sectors are being ran by the very same gang of thieves, all operating from a single "carnivalesque" den, where the larcenous elite pick the lazy, career-politicians as their lead carneys for deceit.

And these lead carneys are seldom the brightest, and definitely never the best!>>>>snip
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Its a rant but you might be able to use some of it.


http://www.populistamerica.com/neither_the_best_nor_the_brightest
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:47 PM
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12. The latest and greatest is speaking out against torture
and then voting for it. Of course, that may not hurt him with the repukes. They will think he finally saw the light. :rolleyes:
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:11 PM
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13. it depends on how WE phrase it...
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:27 PM
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14. John McCain Hypocrite
“Hypocrisy, my friends, is the most obvious of political sins — and the people will punish it,” said Mr. McCain

John McCain Hypocrite
by Doug Ireland

John McCain, the media's darling, has found a clever way around his own campaign finance reform law to take big corporate bucks in furtherance of his political ambitions while carrying water for the corporate mammoth providing the dough. But the national press is ignoring the story.


The Associated Press first ran the story of John McCain's odorous but lucrative Senatorial service to the communications giant Cablevision on the afternoon of March 7. But, while some local papers in McCain's home state (like the East Valley Tribune) have run the story, nothing has as yet made it into the print editions of the New York Times, the L.A. Times, the Washington Post, or any of the half-dozen other big city dailies I checked (although, if one searches the hundreds of AP stories available on the Post's website on its Politics page by clicking on "Latest Wire Reports," one can find it there--but how many readers would bother to do that?) One notable exception: the Kansas City Star.


Here's what the AP's investigation found:


McCain repeatedly intervened on behalf of a policy Cablevision favored -- one which "congressional and private studies conclude could make cable more expensive" -- while his chief political adviser, Rick Davis (who's masterminding McCain's probable '08 presidential rerun) solicited $200,000 in contributions from Cablevision to an institute that promotes McCain and pays Davis a $110,000 annual salary.


The Reform Institute was set up to promote McCain and his issues--especially campaign finance reform, embodied in the famous McCain-Feingold law. This Institute is "a tax-exempt group that touts McCain's views and has showcased him at events since his unsuccessful 2000 presidential campaign," and it "often uses the senator's name in press releases and fund-raising letters and includes him at press conferences," the AP says. And, of course, it provides a cushy sinecure with no heavy lifting for McCain's main man, Davis, as he prepares the pontificating Senator's next presidential run. Cablevision's contributions account for a whopping 15% of the Institute's budget.


http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0309-35.htm
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:36 PM
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15. thanks for that link..and that quote!
it will be the perfect lead..
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:40 PM
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16. McCain Campaign Banked on Taxpayer-Funded Bailout
As The Washington Post reported on Saturday, John McCain's campaign struck a canny deal with a bank in December. If his campaign tanked, public funds would be there to bail him out. But if he emerged as the nominee, there'd be no need for public financing, since the contributions would come flowing.

It's an arrangement that no one has ever tried before. And it appears that McCain, who has built his reputation on campaign finance reform, was gaming the system. Or as a campaign finance expert who preferred to remain anonymous told me, referring to the prominent role that lobbyists have as advisers to his campaign, "This places McCain’s grandstanding on public financing in a new light. True reformers believe public financing is a way to replace the lobbyists’ influence, not a slush fund that the lobbyists use to pay off campaign debts."

Here's the back story. As of December, McCain was still enrolled in the public financing system, but had yet to actually receive any public matching funds. The Federal Election Commission had certified that the campaign would be receiving $5.8 million in public funds. But they wouldn't get that money for a couple more months. In need of even more cash beyond the $3 million loan he'd already secured from a Maryland bank (he'd taken out a life insurance policy as collateral), the McCain campaign was stuck in a bind. They needed more money, but the bank needed collateral.

The promise of those public matching funds (to the tune of more than $5 million) was the only collateral the campaign could offer. But there was a problem with that. Using that promised money as collateral would have bound McCain to the public financing system, according to FEC rules. And the McCain camp wanted to avoid that, because the system limits campaigns to spending $54 million in the primary (through August). That would mean McCain would get seriously outspent by the Democratic nominee through the summer. (McCain has separately pledged to enroll in the system for the general election; that would give him $85 million in taxpayer funds for use after the party convention through Election Day but bar other contributions.)

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/mccain_campaign_banked_on_taxp.php
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:58 PM
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17. " thanks for that link..and that quote!"
You're welcome & keep up your great work. :thumbsup:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 10:20 PM
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19. Olbermann reported today that he found a creative way around the McCain/Feingold
bill; something to do with a loan he took out to finance his campaign.

If anyone can help, I'd appreciate it. I was only half paying attention while making dinner.

Heh, heh--that would be kind of a biggie, yes? :rofl:
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