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SparkyMac Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:51 PM
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We need a stronger term that "global warming"
I have lived in this town in Georgia for 20 years. We had never seen a tornado come anywhere near until last year. Last summer one set down about two miles from our house. Last night one did damage five miles away. For those who have never had the experience of being that close to catastrophe, I can tell you it is scary.

We watched local TV last night for over two hours to keep up with it
as it approached our town. The actual funnel never got closer that five miles away -- but you never know when it will change course.

They showed a chart on TV --- which I didn't pay a lot of attention to at the time -- about tornado frequency. I showed that the USA has usually has something like 25 (can't recall exact figures) tornadoes in January and 34 in February. He have had something like 80 in January and 94 in
February.

My point in this is I think experts make a bad mistake when they refer
to "global warming". Global warning sounds pleasant and friendly.
Why would anybody fear it ? It sounds like something little children
would look forward to -- along with Spring and Santa Claus.

What we are having is a disruption of weather patterns resulting in life threatening storms and over things that can-- and will -- kill a lot of people in the coming years.

I would like to see the experts use a more appropriate term for the coming destruction of this Earth. Back in the 1970s the opposition to nuclear weapons prophesied a "nuclear winter". THAT is a scary
phrase. We need to adopt it -- or something similar -- if we are
to get the attention of the worlds people.

How about "Petroleum holocaust" or "Arctic winter"?

The Christians have used terms like "Judgment day" and "fire and brimstone" for 2000 years to scare their children with. Maybe we Green should emulate.




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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:52 PM
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1. Flaming assholes' Day?
Hell on Earth?

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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:53 PM
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2. Lately, "Global Climate Change" is the prefered term. nt
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:55 PM
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3. "Global Climate Destabilization" is more accurate or "Global Climate Disruption" -- nt
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:33 PM
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21. "Global Climate Disruption"
I like that one.
That or Global Climate Disaster.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:58 PM
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4. Global SHFT ...?
meaning global Shit Hitting the Fan ...?

we are so screwed, I wonder if what we call it will change how we deal with it. Are you ready for the wild ride?
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:58 PM
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5. No, more aptly alarming names could be "global climate collapse", or "climate anarchy"
but in any event, what is MOST crucial is that now at least one globally recognized expert (James Hansen) has come out with a widely recognized call that we need not only to get to a greenhouse gas (GHG) neutral economy (as Norway plans to do by 2030) but, and probably FASTER than that, a state of GLOBAL NET NEGATIVE GHG EMISSIONS. It is urgent that progressive activists get together and advocate this goal -- collectively and forcefully -- b/c if we don't do it, who will?

Some people simply argue that, well, we're doomed. But what good does that do?
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Demagitator Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:10 PM
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6. Apocalypticstorm n/t
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:10 PM
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7. Climate Crisis.
Because it won't necessarily get warm or cold uniformly across the planet, just that the weather and climate patterns will be totally disrupted. Correction: are being totally disrupted, as we speak.
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:11 PM
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8. Global Meltdown
Make it sound nuclear and then fucking idiots might care.

Rp
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:16 PM
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9. I prefer global destruction.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:17 PM
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10. death.
simple and to the point.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:20 PM
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11. Actually, "Global Warming" makes clear that it is HEAT that creates the problem . . .
and "climate change" is the designation which sounds kind of . . . . normal????

When you HEAT the atmosphere you get totally chaotic weather ---

Of course, we do have this coming holocaust because of the suicidal impulses of the patriarchy --
and ExxonMobil's leadership over decades to disinform the public. They were called out on this
lying propaganda by the Royal Academy of Scientists about 6-8 months ago.

But their op-ads still appear on the Op-Ed pages of the NY Times . . .
"Don't worry, be happy" type things --- "we're on it!" . . .



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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:26 PM
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25. But freepers' minds can't hold the concept that snow in Jerusalem and Greece can be caused by global
warming. A couple freepers I know think every snowflake that falls completely disproves "global warming." The fact that Australia is drying up in the middle while coastal towns are getting two months' worth of rainfall overnight -- doesn't register with these people as climate change.

Another problem is, many people seem unable to differentiate between "climate" and "weather" -- so they equate "climate change" with "weather change" -- so they reply airily "climate is always changing" and think we're getting upset that it rains one day and sunshines the next.

And since their ignorance keeps them happy, they choose to keep their ignorance.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:25 AM
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26. Question . . . do we have any chance of waking up the ignorant ---
or is it too late --- ???


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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:45 AM
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29. I think we have to work around them as much as possible.
None so blind as those who will not see, as the old saying goes.

Aside from working to elect environmentally responsible politicians (hope that's not an oxymoron) I'm rather at a loss for ideas.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:22 PM
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12. Catastrophic climate change.
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:48 AM
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30. Catastrophic Climate Crisis
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:10 PM
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32. That's even stronger
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:24 PM
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13. climate crisis
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:29 PM
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14. We could call it the true War on Christmas because when the North Pole melts Santa Claus will drown
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 01:30 PM by Uncle Joe
with the Polar Bears, although some of the Polar Bears will starve instead of drown. I would think all those corporations that make a killing during Christmas wouldn't want Santa Claus to drown and people like Rush Limbaugh, James Inhofe, etc. would look like the truly evil bastards, they are.

Regarding tornadoes, I can't remember when we had so many in the Winter time. I would suggest to all structural engineers, architects, builders and developers to start designing and building more aerodynamic homes and structures. Building with exterior rounded corners instead of the sharp ones which are as a deck of cards when it comes to major wind resistance. I don't believe most any structure would take a direct hit from a tornado, but I believe this would increase the survivability factor by a substantial percent. I also don't believe it was a coincidence that about the only structure left standing after the Atomic Bomb was dropped on Hiroshima happened to be dome shaped.

Thanks for the thread, SparkyMac.



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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:38 PM
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15. How about "global ecological collapse"?
Even "global climate change" doesn't bring home to the layman the fact that species will die off by the thousands, that now-fertile lands become dustbowls, the coastal communities will be swallowed by the ocean like a thousand little New Orleans, that tropical diseases will move north into temperate lands causing widespread plagues.
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HummanaHummana Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:01 PM
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16.  Earthbake.....
or The Venus Syndrome.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:39 AM
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28. Hmm. I fear too many red-staters might visualize nekkid wimmin with no arms, and git all excited.
We want to be careful about saying anything that might make this catastrophe sexually enticing to anyone......;)
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:05 PM
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17. Global Death Spiral nt
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:08 PM
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18. Global McDonald's Failure...Global TV Malfunction...to name a few....
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 07:10 PM by LeftHander
That would get the soft squishy center motivated...most people won;t notice anything until McDonald's is bankrupt and TV is no longer possible. Unfortunately it will be too late by then.
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:09 PM
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19. The concept that we are killing ourselves and the future of our planet
is too horrible to comprehend; this is why no term will be enough. We have some built-in denial mechanism. That mechanism is going to be the death of us all.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:29 AM
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27. Unfortunately, the r-w propaganda comes thru on a megaphone . . .
especially when you turn the TV on or watch corporate-media --

The truth comes in interrupted cycles --- alway met by new denials --

I have to admit that they've been very successful over 30 years or more in keeping this
information from the public --- at a time when we could have done something about it!!!

And still ExxonMobil propaganda appears on the Op-Ed pages of the NY Times --!!

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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:14 PM
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20. End of Weather
Instead of End of Days. If this keeps up, maybe after
a few fundamentalist churches have been called home to
their "maker" by a tornado (with the faithful still inside),
SOMEONE out there in the Bible Belt will say, ummm, people,
maybe God really didn't intend for us to all vote Republican
after all. Not that it will matter at that point, because by then,
even Toto will know that they won't be in Kansas any more.....
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:45 PM
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22. Global Winter...Global Distruction,...Global Holocaust!
I like Global Winter the best...sounds ominous.
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HummanaHummana Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:46 PM
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23. Terrestrial Holocaust
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:47 PM
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24. Runaway greenhouse.
Like Venus.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:26 PM
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31. How about...
Kiss your ass goodbye, because we fucked up the earth and now we are all paying for it.

or KYAGBWFUTEANWAAPFI

has a nice ring to it, huh?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:11 PM
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33. when I pee, it turns to steam.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 04:03 PM
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36. ...
:spray: !!!!! :rofl: !!!!!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:41 PM
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40. Not funny. It hurts
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:14 PM
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34. "Climate breakdown" . . .
But then, I've been beating that drum for yearw now w/o results.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:24 PM
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35. Planetary Spontaneous Combustion
How about a burning world for the burning man?
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 04:06 PM
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37. Earthen Meltdown
Technically, that is what is going to happen, then we'll have to live our lives like that awful Waterworld movie. I'm not looking forward to that at all. We definitely should use the term, "meltdown" in some way to describe it though. Glacier Meltdown? Ok, maybe meltdown isn't necessary, but I agree that global warming gets laughed at and not taken seriously by a lot of people, when it really should be taken seriously.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 04:11 PM
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38. Man's fucking mess.
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 04:12 PM
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39. What county is this town in?


The number of violent landfall tornadoes is actually lower than it used to be, this is why anecdotal evidence is *not* good...



As you can see here none of Georgia is white, the sate *everywhere* has a tornado history..
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