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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:35 PM
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Concentration camps in America: The consequences of 40 years of fear
Special Reports
Concentration camps in America: The consequences of 40 years of fear
By William John Cox
Online Journal Contributing Writer


Feb 18, 2008, 00:56

If you type the phrase "concentration camps" into your Internet search engine, you will find page after page of references to martial law and the construction of concentration camps in the United States on behalf of the Department of Defense, the Department of Homeland Security and the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA).

A close examination reveals that many of these references lack sufficient facts to support their conclusions; however, taken as a whole, there is an abundance of factual information showing an alarming trend in the deployment of federal and military forces to restrain and detain American citizens.

Among the Internet sites are those listing between 600 and 800 locations in the United States where the government is establishing "concentration camps." Many of these are former or active military bases; however, several provide detailed information about their location and improvements, including maps, videos, and satellite photographs.

A former Amtrak facility located in Beech Grove, Indiana, is featured in a widely viewed video on Youtube. From the audio description and video images, it is easy to imagine that the site could be used as a detention facility; however, a telephone call to the desk officer of the Beech Grove Police Department reveals that much of the evidence, including helicopter landing facilities and radio towers, actually belong to the police department that is located adjacent to the now largely abandoned facility. The desk officer, who also happens to be a local city councilman, was unaware of any federal involvement at the location. "It’s a straight facility," he said.

There are a number of photographs depicting a site in northern Michigan with a double row of chainlink fencing topped with barbwire and elevated guard towers. The area is part of Camp Grayling, the largest installation of the Michigan National Guard, which deploys several military police commands and trains more than 100 law enforcement agencies from Northern Michigan. The photographs clearly show an outdoor detention facility, and recent comments by an undercover observer confirm that it is currently maintained. However, there is an e-mail on the Internet dated January 20, 1999, from a base Deputy Public Affairs Officer who said: "The ‘camps’ you are referring to are used by our Military Police for training. One of their war-time missions is to process and care for prisoners of war (POWs). The photos you saw are of that training site."

Perhaps the most disturbing images show a Department of Homeland facility known as Swift Luck Green located in Central Wyoming. The five satellite photographs are labeled as having been taken on January 23 and March 24, 2006, by DigitalGlobe and are annotated as "DHS Facility (SLG)." Labels include: prisoner housing, restaurant for DHS personnel; 3-story dormitory for prisoners; guard towers; and prison cells. Various blogs further identify the location as a closed coal mine near Hanna, Wyoming, in Carbon County.

There is nothing comparable to the photographs visible on GoogleEarth at the listed coordinates, and desk officers at the local sheriff’s office and the police department are unaware of any local DHS or FEMA facilities. An e-mail to DigitalGlobe’s media relations contact about the photographs received this reply: "they were in a report called ‘the hidden gulag,’ a report on secret nk prison camps." The report and original photographs can be viewed at the U.S. Committee for Human Rights in North Korea’s website, www.hrnk.org.

This is what fear has wrought. First, our own government has done everything in its power to make us fearful so we will support its illegal and unconstitutional activities, and then in our fear, we have come to distrust everything our government says and does -- for good reason.

The facts are undisputed.

MORE >>>>>

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/printer_2964.shtml
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:47 PM
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1. k
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:53 PM
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2. R!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:46 PM
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19. thanks!
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:58 PM
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3. Are 'we' here because 'we' ignored nor questioned the building of supermax facilities? nt
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:47 AM
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22. It's a vast tapestry.
The "supermax" meme is a thread within it.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:22 PM
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4. This more than
just a little disturbing.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:22 PM
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5. They aren't going to be able
to corral, control and pen up all the American citizens! I don't know anyone who'd go without a fight...
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Lex Talionis Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 12:08 PM
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33. There are many here who would not fight.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:36 PM
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6. k & r
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:41 PM
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7. We think alike these days, helderheid. I posted this in Editorials and Other Articles earlier. K&R.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:50 PM
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10. Scary stuff!
:hi:
:scared:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:22 PM
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20. Scary stuff is all we get nowadays. What goes along with concentration camps?
Well, torture-and all the other things that the enemies of our country did, until this criminal administration (which includes domestic enemies of The United States of America) was installed.

So here's a cross-posted thread about torture to accompany this one about concentration camps.

"Twisting Health Language for Torture..." (active thread started 2-17-2008)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x338726
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:08 AM
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31. thanks for the link
:cry:
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:44 PM
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8. Thanks
People will often scoff at this notion but it is natural preparation from a state in decline.

K&R
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:48 PM
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9. God this is scary?
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 02:49 PM by alyce douglas
just google concentration camps in the US and see what comes up. this is their next step??? Rounding us up for what saying the wrong thing?

found this website.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/camps.html

:scared:
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:54 PM
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11. They are anticipating GLOBAL migration and civilian unrest due to climate change.
The powers that be are preparing for millions of displaced
people, famine and water shortages. They KNOW that the
climate change we are witnessing is about to
turn the world as we have known it, upside down.

These "camps" are not intended just for rounding
up people who voice dissident political views,
they will be used to control a panicked populace
as well as any resistance to the NWO.

BHN
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Mark Twain Girl Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:58 PM
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12. This is a good point -- multipurpose, anticipating a range of
possible stuff hitting the fan. Political, ecological, economic. Economic... what will happen if there's a riot over food prices? Gas shortages? I know longer have certainty about any of it.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:09 PM
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14. throw in Bio chemical assault too.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:14 PM
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15. WOW. I'd not thought of that.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:30 PM
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21. There won't be any shortage of justifications, apparently n/t
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Lex Talionis Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 12:23 PM
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34. Yes There is truth in what you said, BHN
But, what will people do? I'm pretty sure that a letter to your local rep wont work.
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:07 PM
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13. I absolutely fear the government. Most people should.
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 03:09 PM by davsand
A healthy dose of paranoia is a good thing because it keeps us vigilant. Some of the concentration camp stuff, however, is just plain nuts. One of those sites they talk about is the old Chanute Air force Base north of where I live (Birthplace to a famous DUer who shall not be named by me lest she kick my ass!)

I am a county tax assessor. My job (in part) is to go out and look at buildings so they can be taxed. I have driven that old AFB a number of times and I will tell you that the fences that so terrify the more paranoid probably could not hold in a herd of sheep--let alone a bunch of pissed off citizens. Similarly, there are buildings there that are in such a state of disrepair they are not capable of keeping rain out--let alone housing prisoners, staff, or soldiers.

What little functional property that is there is now either in private residential ownership or else it is office space rented out to multiple businesses. The sheer act of emptying those buildings is beyond the ability of just about any Ntl Guard detail that we have left here stateside.

Oh--and did I mention this is now a Superfund site? Yep. Lots of toxic shit up there just waiting for someone to care. good luck getting anybody to work there guarding prisoners for too long...

YMMV.


Laura
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:16 PM
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16. I used to live in Beech Grove...
and still drive through this area frequently. Beech Grove is a small town that is completely within Indianapolis. There are usually a lot of cars there. Also, quite a few old railroad cars in various states of disrepair. I have seen a helicopter one time. I can't say for sure, but I doubt that the B.G. police dept would have their own whirly bird.

If you plug 340 Churchman Pl beech grove, IN 46107 into Google Earth, it will take you to their headquarters. A little bit north of that, you can see the old Amtrak facility.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:44 PM
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17. thanks!
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Psyop Samurai Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 05:13 PM
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18. Mr. Cox is correct -- The facts are undisputed.
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 05:33 PM by Psyop Samurai
However, like all other facts, there is no need for the controllers to dispute them.

The facts emerge only in isolation in the media matrix, either in the "nothing to see here" format (think nightly news), or in the faux "ain't it awful" format (think investigative news shows).

All that is necessary is a strategy to contain would-be troublemakers, who insist on putting things in context and addressing perfectly obvious implications. This largely consists of setting up disinfo (like that cited at the beginning of Cox's article), for the purpose of discrediting and marginalizing the troublemakers. When that no longer works, (ie. their crazy ideas keep gaining currency), then you focus on the troublemakers themselves, as a "human interest" story. And on and on.

At NO TIME do you address the facts in context, or address the perfectly obvious implications.

At any rate, here is where Cox is going with all this:

Two weeks ago, Congress took an important first step in restricting the president’s power by repealing a largely unrecognized section of the 2007 Defense Appropriations Act that, last year, effectively transferred command of the National Guards from state governors to the president. With the unanimous support of the National Governors Association, the National Sheriffs’ Association and other law enforcement agencies, Congress restricted the power of the president to order the National Guard of any state to be used within that state or in any other state without the consent of the appropriate state governors.

We must immediately stop the deployment of National Guard troops to fight the illegal war in Iraq and bring them all home where they belong. Remaining under the control of state governors and given time to rest and the resources to re-equip, a well-trained and properly deployed National Guard, acting in support of local law enforcement, will be able to maintain order in most, if not all, domestic disturbances, natural disasters and terrorists attacks. If we survived the assassinations and riots of the '60s without martial law, we should be able to get by today without military intervention or the president’s help.

There is no time to lose! Congress must immediately hold hearings on the power of the president to declare martial law, to deploy the military within the United States, and to detain American citizens, without trial or benefit of habeas corpus. Congress must establish the constitutional limits of presidential power by statute, rather than to allow the president to do so by his own executive orders.


I couldn't agree more. However, unlike the recent repeal backed by the National Governors Association, et al, I don't see the political will to turn back the rest of this malignant "unitary executive" fantasy.

By the way, for those who weren't here at the time or somehow missed it, (and perhaps someone will have corroborating links handy), this egregious provision that usurped command of the National Guards was foreshadowed by events in the New Orleans catastrophe, during which the satanic monkey that sits in the White House, held countless grievously suffering humans hostage while blackmailing the governor, in an apparent attempt to establish precedent for federalizing the National Guard.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:42 AM
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26. If the "Superdome" wasn't a Concentration Camp, then what was?
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:35 AM
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23. K & R
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:08 AM
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24. bttt
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:26 AM
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25. Maybe GW doesn't plan on giving up power after all...
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:18 AM
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28. it's always my first thought when I see these reports.
:scared:
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:04 AM
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27. K & R
another dot to connect? scary...
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:39 PM
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29. K&R
Must be for Cuba citizens... :sarcasm:
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:40 PM
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30. Kicka-bumpa
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Lex Talionis Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 12:07 PM
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32. So what will you do if they come for you?
Will you go meekly as a lamb? Will you sit at your keyboard and email your congressman? Will you hold up signs and pass out petitions?
What will you do, if say within the next 5 years, they tell you that your just being relocated for your on safety? From what I've read on this site, many will just expose their throat to the butchers knife,as meekly as a lamb. What will you do?
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