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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:32 PM
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Florida proposes teaching evolution as fact; Fundies go bat-crap crazy.....
from the American Family Association's :crazy: OneNewsNow:



'Evolution as fact' among Florida's new proposed education standards
Pete Chagnon - OneNewsNow - 2/18/2008 2:30:00 PM

The Florida State Board of Education will be voting on new educations standards tomorrow, but one of the more than a dozen "big ideas" being proposed has parents across the state up in arms.


The Board of Education has proposed 18 "big ideas" in an attempt to raise educational standards across the Sunshine State. But one of the supposedly major ideas mandates that evolution be taught as fact, and that it be taught as the "fundamental concept underlying all of biology."

According to the Orlando Sentinel, parents across the state have flooded the Florida Department of Education's website, denouncing the new science standard. Many parents have threatened to pull their children from public schools if the new evolution standard passes, and others have called for evolution to be taught as theory alongside creation and intelligent design. However, officials are rejecting those ideas as religious indoctrination.

But Attorney David Gibbs with the Florida-based Christian Law Association says that the evolutionists are the ones who are indoctrinating. "It's an (attitude of) arrogance. It's almost got a religious-like ferocity to it that any notion that there is a God, any notion that there was intelligent design, any notion that evolution is not true will not be tolerated."

State Representative Marti Coley reports she has heard a large outcry from her constituents on the new evolution standard. In response she is drafting legislation that would require evolution to be taught as theory rather than fact.

"When you look at national publications like from (groups like) the National Academy of Sciences, they even acknowledge that it is impossible to prove with absolute certainty a given explanation," she points out. "I think it would be irresponsible to teach it as a fact rather than what it is -- evolution is a theory (and) it should be taught as a theory." ......(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.onenewsnow.com/Education/Default.aspx?id=67709




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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:33 PM
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1. What kind of mind would???
Oh, hell........never mind.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:34 PM
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2. Jesus H. Christ - it IS a fact! Enough already you dummies! -eom
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:34 PM
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3. Fundies are already bat-shit crazy
It would be a short trip for anyone even on the edge.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:40 PM
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4. And the skools are indoctrinating the kids into what?
But Attorney David Gibbs with the Florida-based Christian Law Association says that the evolutionists are the ones who are indoctrinating.

Jokers like this guy are the ones indoctrinating kids.

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hulklogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:43 PM
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5. Let Florida teach only bible math and bible history and bible science
and watch their students plummet to the bottom of the country in academic achievement.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:55 PM
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9. They ARE at "the bottom of the country in academic achievement."
These new (proposed) science standards are an attempt to overcome that. They're actually quite good. Evolution has always been taught in south Florida, which is a lot like the northeast. Even with the new standards it will probably be ignored north of Palm Beach.

--IMM
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hulklogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:12 PM
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10. Maybe I should edit my post to say
"stay at the bottom of the country in academic achievement until the rapture" ;)
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:45 PM
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6. Well, when the bird-flu EVOLVES and makes its way around the world.
I guess they'll all be "raptured". :evilgrin:
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:49 PM
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7. Florida has the craziest...
I've been going to the public meetings about the new standards, which are very good. They should teach it as a theory, in the scientific sense, which means that it explains experimental and observational data. Gravity and electricity are also theories. In the same sense, creationism and intelligent design are not theories, because they are not falsifiable, or testable.

Florida has wackos to rival any state. :crazy:

--IMM
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:55 PM
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8. They can't "go" bat crap crazy
They're already there.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:02 AM
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11. "They can't "go" bat crap crazy....They're already there."
C'est vrai, mon ami. C'est vrai.

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