Is perfect storm brewing for there never to be a black President for a long time?

[Postman]

Like a lot of crazy things, this just crossed my mind...

The brewing economic storm, the disaster in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Middle East crisis continuing to simmer, the cutting back of civil liberties, a rightwing spin machine loaded for bear....and a black man gets elected President.

The wheels fall off the proverbial wagon during Obama's Presidency and he's "Jimmy Cartered"

This is just something I think about.

Of course, he could turn everything around and become one of the greatest Presidents ever, but I feel the stars are all aligned against him...

Whomever the next Democratic President is, they have a daunting task ahead of them...

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

1. There should never be another white Prez after Chimp.

[Postman]

2. I understand your sentiment but the rightwing WILL use his race,

in subtle ways, maybe even unspoken,but understood by rightwingers...because that's part of who they are.

[death to the DLC]

8. and I predict

they will pay dearly if they use race at anytime. The youth don't recognize race (as much) and are sickened at the mention of it.

I think a cultural shift is taking place and the pasty, old, white man is scared to death.

[zanne]

11. Welcome, death!

Never thought I'd say that!

[death to the DLC]

13. thanks!

:)

[YOY]

17. Death isn't a bad guy!

Ask Terry Pratchett!

[melody]

34. bingo

Exactly, anyone who even tries to use race in the GE will get his head handed to him on a plate. They'll have to fall
back on less direct means to make it an issue and then they'll have to focus on his name (and even then, they'll have
to be damned careful). That's one road down which the GOP cannot go without great risk. Let's hope they step into lots
of road apples along the way.

[zanne]

9. There are more of us than there are of them. nt

[bdamomma]

28. yes, there are we have the numbers.

[YOY]

16. and we in turn will call them on the racist bullshit that they spew

For anyone who feels that any single aspect of one's heritage or genetic makeup counts for his character...is a complete f***ing assh***.

[Postman]

18. They are out there my friend....

I don't know how many, but they are there.

For example. At my workplace we were talking politics and one of my co-workers, a divorced/single-mother/white/, said she voted for Hillary in the primary and that if Obama got the nomination she was going to vote for a republican because.....

"I'm not putting an (insert italian pejorative for black man here) in the White House"

It's anecdotal, but there it is....


And yeah, I know she's an asshole.

[timtom]

21. The sad thing is

that Obama is not a "black" man. He is of two ethnic stocks. He is bi-racial (if race must be addressed). He is black AND he is white. Just like my grand-daughter.

To call him one or the other is to lend substance to the concept of "miscegenation". And that should have been outlawed long ago.

[YOY]

23. Well THIS Italian American will sock any ignorant shitstain dago in the gob if they get racist on BA

Did she call him the word that means "eggplant"?

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_you_spell_'eggplant'_in_Italian



:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

[Postman]

24. She said ....

I don't know how to spell it so I'll spell it how she said it....



zitzoon or et-za-zoony ?

[YOY]

33. I've never heard that one

Maybe someone else has... It may not be a racial ephitet.

Was it "Sticchiu?" That's calling his a "Pussy" (A direct translation...not my words.)

[CTyankee]

22. I worry that it won't be "spewed" out loud but whispered

in a stealth campaign that uses racially loaded "code" words.

I worry about this, too. I want to think more positively but I know these Republicans and they'll resort to anything...

[bdamomma]

29. them "resorting to anything" has me worried

cause we all know how these repigs and anyone else out there will react. They are a scary bunch of narrow/close minded people.

[boobooday]

20. Bwahahaha

Right! That makes the point. White guys are never held up as a "representative" of their race. They are each considered individually, each according to his own unique incompetence.

[BoneDaddy]

38. Nor should they be

the answer is not to make the same mistake as they do.

[boobooday]

39. Right

That was my point.

[islandmkl]

3. the stars...

Wall Street, multi-nationals, insurance industry, corporate media, racists, war-mongers and profiteers, oil and gasoline monoliths, entrenched Washington power structure 'elites'...

[Postman]

5. Excellent discription of the "stars"

And exactly what I mean....

[Earth_First]

4. Absolutely not, and I wish that DUers would quit injecting race into his candidacy...

The responsibility of a failed Democratic presidency in the period of 2008-2012 will be in the shadow of the past 8 years of Republican corruption.

The only way that this becomes a 'failed Democratic presidency' is if we allow the meme to be broadcast.

This has nothing to do with a 'black' president.

[Postman]

10. Are you naive?

Of course the reality would not be that the failure was because he is "black". But that will be part of the unspoken narrative of the rightwing racist republican machine.

You have to know your "enemy" in order to win....

[Blue_Roses]

25. where do you live?

before I can even comment on this post -which is generated by pure fear...

[Stinky The Clown]

6. Some crazies have said similar things. Some rational people have said similar things

Me ..... I just think it is a case of over thinking things.

To say the next president has a daunting task, however, is spot on.

[Postman]

14. Probably right...

although, "tending to overthink" things hasn't ever been one of my problems in life....

Maybe I just want Obama to succeed soo much that it is an irrational fear of having it all go down the drain and we have a return to these crazyass republicans running the country again...

[bdamomma]

30. and to clean up after this POS fratboys mess, I give them

all the credit and support to do that most daunting task. Damn, alot of cleaning up has to be done.

[zanne]

7. Anything could happen with either Obama or Hillary....

But it'd still be 100 times better than what happened with Bush.

[Postman]

12. Agreed.

n/t

[sellitman]

15. Anyone wanting to clean up chimpy's mess

would have their hands full. That is well documented.

Nothing to do with color

[dysfunctional press]

19. and it's fairly easy for the minority to be obstructionist- and guarantee a failed presidency...

the system isn't geared toward facilitating meaningful change all that readily.

[CTyankee]

26. That can only be overcome by a substantial win by Obama.

A razor thin majority will likely bring on something similar to Clinton's first term. The Republicans liked to say that Clinton didn't "win" because of Ross Perot being in the race. A plurality thus became "not a majority" and so it wasn't a "win."

[dysfunctional press]

35. more than that, it will take practically a sea change in congress...

which just isn't very likely.

btw- bush didn't even really win his elections- but he claimed a "mandate", and the corporati media backed him up.

[VP505]

27. No doubt

the next President, regardless of which of the two Dem candidates gets elected is going to have anything other than a very rough go. Look at the obstruction and game playing going on in the Senate now, its going to get a whole lot worse. The RePukes are going to be so angered by their loss of power and relevance that they will do anything to throw the proverbial wrench into the works. One more important reason for we the rank and file to stay engaged and keep the pressure on our Reps to stand strong, united and loud against the coming storm.

[bdamomma]

32. yes, we all should be back up for whatever Dem candidate

gets in, cause we all know how the boys club in Congress will react, bi-partisanship my butt! that is total BS, with those repigs in the Congress, I do not trust them one bit.

[madokie]

31. I think Obama is smart enough to surrond himself with good honest competent people

so the worry is not for me but thats cool if it is for you, ;-) some of us have to do the worrying and truth be told I do a lot of it myself.

[CTyankee]

36. Yep. That's what saves me from worrying too much. The best people

will WANT to work in his administration and will flock to him. He will get the "best and the brightest."

Now let's do our job and pull together, not apart!

[stillcool]

37. I'm always reaching...

to make sense of things. My latest is that since the country is going down the tubes, a President is needed to try and hold the thing together as it crashes and burns to the bottom. Maybe hope is the only thing we will have left after the Bushies leave the White House.

[Elspeth]

40. Or maybe a Democratic president for a long time

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