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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:14 AM
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Just how fucked ARE we?
In Florida, the crazies are loose on the streets and in the state house in Tallahassee.

They're debating whether or not evolution is 'scientific theory'. Yet even degrading the scientifically irrefutable fact of evolution to the same level as the crazy, insane 'creationism' is not good enough for these people.

All across our country there are people who believe it all started 6000 years ago. That would mean that the Pharaohs and the dinosaurs are contemporaries. One of these people is running for president as a member of mainstream political party. Early in that party's primary season, he was joined by others who held the same views.

This is simply willful ignorance. It is religious insanity.

With people like this - and the millions who support them - how can EVER have hope that reason will win out?

These people are ...... what? ....... defective? ..... too stupid to breed? ...... nice, god fearers? ..... main line Calvinists? ...... what?
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:17 AM
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1. Just another reason
why we have home-schooled our kids. Ever since Jeb took over we had to take our kids out of the public school system
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:18 AM
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2. these people are:
the downfall of our species, and many others, and quite possibly the scourge of the planet.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:19 AM
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3. Anyone who doesn't believe in evolution should not be able to get the latest flu vaccine.
After all, if viruses do not mutate or evolve, there is NO NEED for the latest flu vaccine. Likewise, if there is a human epidemic of, oh let's say the avian flu, no need for the flat earthers to get any vaccine which may be developed, because that virus should never have evolved in the first place.

I am so sick of these anti-science morons. You just feel like saying if you don't support the teaching of science then you should receive no benefits from the advancements of science.
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:20 AM
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4. I'd say they're rapture-ready.....
I'm hoping it happens soon. They'll finally leave us the fuck alone. :evilgrin:
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LiberalPosse Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:20 AM
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5. They're definitely not too stupid too breed.
The birth rate in the red states far exceeds that of the blue states. It won't be long before progressives become an endangered species. It's scary.

It almost makes me wonder if survival of the fittest applies to humans. If that were true, Europeans and democratics in American would have completely displaced all the fundies out there. Instead, the population of fundies is exploding.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 12:38 PM
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8. so...idiocracy has the potential to become a documentary.
yikes.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:20 AM
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6. Now I know why I've had diarrhea for the past week
It's from living amongst certain parasites in Fl.
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 12:34 PM
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7. I'd say pretty fucked: The US is one of the most religious countries in the world....
... and while religiosity in most sane countries has been declining for decades, in the US it's become a mindless infestation growing like an out of control tumor.

It's gotten so pervasive that the numbers are starting to correlate with some of the most primitive societies on the planet. Not that "primitive" is necessarily bad, given that we're allegedly "advanced," but in this context primitive means religiosity in the 80 to 90 percent range. We're not quite there yet, but give it time, give pop culture a bit longer to rot the next generation's brains, and we'll hit that 80 percent mark, I'm sure.

Current studies say about 30 percent of Americans self-identify as evangelicals (code for "fundie loon"). That means next time you go to the store, roughly three in 10 of your fellow shoppers will be religiously insane. That's also right around Bush's baseline approval rating, give or take a couple of points. Coincidence?

A 2003 University of Michigan study concludes that:

About 46 percent of American adults attend church at least once a week, not counting weddings, funerals and christenings, compared with 14 percent of adults in Great Britain, 8 percent in France, 7 percent in Sweden and 4 percent in Japan.

“While traditional religious belief and participation in organized religion have steadily declined in most advanced industrial nations, especially in Western Europe, this is not the case in the United States,” said Ronald F. Inglehart, a researcher at the U-M Institute for Social Research (ISR), and director of the ISR World Values Surveys, which were conducted in more than 80 nations between 1981 and 2001.

Some possible reasons cited for the results: Religious refugees set the tone long ago in America; religious people tend to have more children than non-religious groups; and the U.S. has a less comprehensive social welfare system, prompting people to look to religion for help.


In other words, if you live in America v2.0, gawd help you because nobody else will.


And why does this expansion of religiosity in the US make me crazy? Glad you asked...

It's because I hate irrational belief systems being pushed as science. I hate smarmy, self-satisfied little shits who consign me to hell because I'm not into their gawd game. I hate pests who come to my house to push fairy tales. I hate idiots who think that gawd gave humans the earth to rape, trash, exploit and ultimately destroy because the bible tells them it's OK. I hate simpletons who consign all the vagaries of life to "gawd's will" and therefore exempt themselves from the consequences of their own actions.

I hate morons who believe the fossil record was put here by gawd to test their faith. I hate mean bastards who subscribe to the systematized oppression and demonization of any group that doesn't look, behave and believe exactly as they do. I hate rubes who venerate a dull-witted fool such as George W. Bush. I hate loud, obnoxious, rude, intrusive, superior dimwits who intone biblical passages as if they were five-year-olds reciting nursery rhymes.

I hate binary imbeciles who see everything in black and white, good and evil, heaven and hell, us and them. I hate vengeful misogynists who believe life begins at conception and ends at birth. I hate pro-life murderers. These people are no more christian than I am a sheet of plywood.

My biases aren't limited to fundies, btw. I'm an equal opportunity tormentor of frauds, phonies, hucksters, pimps for the lord, hypocrites and other such revolting excuses for humanity. It's just that the wacky world of fundie land seems to attract an inordinate number of these creeps, and so for once the generalization fits the movement like a pair of custom-made shoes.


wp
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 12:40 PM
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9. and religious fervor tends to escalate during hard times...
like the ones on the near horizon.
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:29 PM
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10. Yeah, good point...
We may make it to that magic 80 percent plateau faster than anyone thought possible. And with no money to spend on going out and having lost the ability to read or otherwise entertain themselves, they'll have plenty of time to watch the entire collection of smarmy, silver-coiffed, mush-mouthed beggars crying poverty from the pulpits of their $20 million church/TV studios -- demanding and whining and sniveling and pleading and half-drowning in fake tears and invoking JEEEEEEEEEEzzzusss and all the saints as many times as it takes to get them to reach deep into their threadbare pockets and fish out one more fiver for the lord, which these punks will be happy to deliver directly to the big guy -- minus their little cut, of course.

Just imagine what that really means in this brain damaged society: In any demographically representative crowd of Americans, three of 10 are stupid and/or insane enough to play a starring role in the above scenario.

Jesus Christ!!... so to speak.


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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:30 PM
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11. Totally fucked. Democracy can't work with a delusional citizenry. /nt
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