Can you believe there is going ot be a conference in NYC on GLOBAL COOLING??!!!

[BrklynLiberal]

Global Warming Skeptics Prepare for International Conference
by Cascade Policy Institute Monday, February 11. 2008
Hundreds of the world’s leading “skeptics” of the theory of man-made global warming will meet in New York City March 2-4, 2008 to present their case and discuss the latest scientific, economic and political research on climate change.

The conference is being organized by The Heartland Institute and a growing list of cosponsors, including Cascade Policy Institute, the International Climate Science Coalition, and the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine.


"The purpose of the conference is to provide a platform for the hundreds of scientists, economists, and policy experts who dissent from the so-called ‘consensus’ on global warming,” said Heartland President Joseph Bast.
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more of this crap at..
http://www.oregoncatalyst.com/index.php?/archives/1176-Global-Warming-Skeptics-Prepare-for-International-Conference.html

Why do I have this suspicious feeling about the sponsors of this "conference"?
The Heartland Institute, the Cascade Policy Institute and the International Climate Science Coalition as well as the Oregon Institute of Science amnd Medicine...Think it is safe to guess that all the members are probably Repukes...or Repukes who call themselves something else?

[Lars39]

1. Enough intelligence and ability to fill and use a snack room.

[amborin]

2. bogus, pseudo-scientific pretend think tanks

all of those mentioned are phony, quackery type places

[pocoloco]

3. Anybody got the dates for the next Flat Earth Society meeting.

Maybe I can fit both of them into my schedule.

Hollow Earth?

[islandmkl]

4. they won't have a hard time getting airplay...

limbo, slannity, o'really, gwen beck, schnitt (what the c and n are for is anybody's guess), bore-tz, rusty humpty, weiner, prager, etc....

these guys can't even relate global warming to cold weather...you know--cold weather disproves global warming...do you ever wonder if these guys even know how an ice cube cools a drink....

[texastoast]

5. Is Exxon a big financier of this claptrap? n/t

[unpossibles]

13. sourcewatch.org is a great place to look

The Heartland Institute, according to the Institute's web site, is a nonprofit organization "to discover and promote free-market solutions to social and economic problems". <1> It campaigns on what it calls "junk science", "common-sense environmentalism" (i.e. anti-Kyoto, pro-GM), the privatization of public services, smokers' rights (anti-tobacco tax, denial of problems from passive smoking), the introduction of school vouchers, and the deregulation of health care insurance. It also provides an online resource for finding right-wing think tank policy documents called PolicyBot.
The institute was founded in 1984 by David H. Padden and Joseph L. Bast.
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ExxonSecrets lists Heartland as having received $561,500 (unadjusted for inflation) from ExxonMobil between 1998 and 2005
http://sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Heartland_Institute

[wtmusic]

14. In a word, yes. Google "the Heartland Institute". nt

[arcane1]

6. "Repukes who call themselves something else"

In other words, Repukes who call themselves scientists

[orleans]

7. my favorite part of your post: "more of this crap at.." and a link! ha! exactly. n/t

[krispos42]

8. There used to be a big concern about global cooling

Astronomers measured the Sun's neutrino output and found it to be much lower than the mathematical models showed it should be, meaning that the nuclear fusion was not happening at the rate needed to maintain the Sun's energy output. The possibility existed that the Sun was entering a cooling-off period.

However it turns out that there were different types of neutrinos and the detection equipment was only picking up about 1/3rd of solar neutrinos being produced. Once more sensitive equipment was built, they found the other neutrinos. The total neutrinos matched with the predictions of the models, and that meant the Sun was NOT cooling off, as feared.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_neutrino_problem

[BattyDem]

9. I don't understand the skeptics

Even if they are not 100% convinced, wouldn't it be better to err on the side of caution? Don't they realize that even if they're just the slightest bit wrong, it will mean disaster for our planet? What is the downside of reducing greenhouse gases?

Developing alternative energy sources will create new jobs, reduce pollution and release us from our dependence on foreign oil. We will no longer be forced to bargain with oil-rich countries on their terms. These are all GOOD things!

Note to the skeptics: If you are wrong - just a little bit wrong - you and your family will meet the same fate as the rest of us. You will not be spared. You can't simply relocate - we don't have another planet! :eyes:

[leftchick]

10. The Truth about These Capitalist FRAUDS from exxonsecrets.org

FACTSHEET: Heartland Institute, Heartland
DETAILS

19 South LaSalle St., Suite 903 Chicago, IL 60603
Phone: [phone]
Founded in the early 1990s, Heartland Institute claims to apply "cutting-edge research to state and local public policy issues." Additionally, Heartland bills itself as "the marketing arm of the free-market movement." http://www.capitalresearch.org/search/orgdisplay.asp?Org=HEA100

The Heartland Institute created a website in the Spring of 2007, www.globalwarmingheartland.org, which asserts there is no scientific consensus on global warming and features a list of experts and a list of like-minded think tanks, many of whom have received funding from ExxonMobil and other polluters.

The Heartland Institute networks heavily with other conservative policy organizations, and is part of the State Policy Network, a member of the Cooler Heads Coalition (as of 4/04), and co-sponsored the 2001 Fly In for Freedom with the Wise Use umbrella group, Alliance for America. Heartland also co-sponsored a New York state Conference on Property Rights, hosted by the Property Rights Foundation of America. The Institute puts out several publications, including "Environment & Climate News" which frequently features anti-environmentalist and climate skeptic writing. They also published "Earth Day '96," a compilation of articles on environmental topics. The publication, distributed on college campuses, featured "Adventures in the Ozone Layer" by S. Fred Singer, and "the Cold Facts on Global Warming" by Sallie Baliunas. The articles denied the serious nature of ozone depletion and global warming.

Walter F. Buchholtz, an ExxonMobil executive, serves as Heartland's Government Relations Advisor, according to Heartland's 2005 IRS Form 990, pg. 15. http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2005/363/309/2005-363309812-0295fbb2-9.pdf

The Heartland Institute formerly sponsored and hosted www.climatesearch.org, a web page ostensibly dedicated to objective research on global warming, but at the same time presenting heavily biased research by organizations such as the American Petroleum Institute as an FAQ section.

http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/orgfactsheet.php?id=41

http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/listorganizations.php

[mak3cats]

11. And now a word about our sponsors...

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Heartland_Institute

"The Heartland Institute, according to the Institute's web site, is a nonprofit organization "to discover and promote free-market solutions to social and economic problems". <1> It campaigns on what it calls "junk science", "common-sense environmentalism" (i.e. anti-Kyoto, pro-GM), the privatization of public services, smokers' rights (anti-tobacco tax, denial of problems from passive smoking), the introduction of school vouchers, and the deregulation of health care insurance. It also provides an online resource for finding right-wing think tank policy documents called PolicyBot."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascade_Policy_Institute

"Cascade Policy Institute is a non-profit, non-partisan Libertarian public policy research organization based in Portland, Oregon that focuses on state and local issues. The institute, founded in January 1991, seeks to "explore and advance public policy alternatives that foster individual liberty, personal responsibility, and economic opportunity". Although not aligned with any political party, the institute advocates policies that promote free markets and limited government."

http://www.climatescienceinternational.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5&Itemid=6

"The International Climate Science Coalition is an association of concerned individuals who wish to ensure that the public is given complete, accurate and unbiased information about the science of climate change."

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Oregon_Institute_of_Science_and_Medicine

"The Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine (OISM) describes itself as "a small research institute" that studies "biochemistry, diagnostic medicine, nutrition, preventive medicine and the molecular biology of aging." It is headed by Arthur B. Robinson, an eccentric scientist who has a long history of controversial entanglements with figures on the fringe of accepted research. OISM also markets a home-schooling kit for "parents concerned about socialism in the public schools" and publishes books on how to survive nuclear war."

I've never been on the Sourcewatch website before. I'll have to remember it for future reference.

[BrklynLiberal]

12. More info on some of this bogus group sponsoring this "conference".

From:
http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/inhofe-global-warming-deniers-climate-science-46011008
70 of Inhofe's Global Warming Deniers Have No Climate Science Background
So how qualified are they to weigh in on the subject?
41. Bryan Leyland, electrical and mechanical engineer, International Climate Science Coalition, consultant, Auckland, New Zealand.
http://homepage.mac.com/bryanleyland/Menu4.html

I bet all of these nitwits are going to be at this conference.

The Heartland Institute made it to exxonsecrets.org
http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/orgfactsheet.php?id=41

[wtmusic]

15. This is GREAT news.

They are feeling the heat if they have to resort to absurd measures like this. :thumbsup: