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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:03 PM
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Bank Accidentally Gives Man $5 Million then charge him with larceny
NEW YORK -- A man was charged with withdrawing $2 million from an account after a bank confused him with a man who has the same name.

Benjamin Lovell was arraigned Tuesday on grand larceny charges. The 48-year-old salesman said he tried to tell officials at Commerce Bank in December that he did not have a $5 million account. He says he was told it was his and he could withdraw the money.

Prosecutors said the bank _ which advertises itself as America's Most Convenient Bank _ confused Lovell with a Benjamin Lovell who works for a property management company.

The lesser-funded Lovell gave away some of the withdrawn money and blew some of it on gifts, but lost much of it on bad investments, prosecutors said.

Washington Post
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:07 PM
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1. the Commerce Bank...?
the drysdales aren't going to be too happy about that...

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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:07 PM
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2. good lord - if you know the money isn't yours, but you take it and spend it
I'd say there's a pretty good larceny case against you. Dumbass.

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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:09 PM
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5. Yup. That was pretty stupid.
Common sense should have told him that SOMEONE
was gonna rectify a $5 million mistake sooner or later.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:11 PM
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6. but if you tell the bank it's not yours and they tell you it is, then...
you shouldn't be charged with larceny. How many times must the consumer contest the bank's mistake? At what point should the bank be liable for the loss?
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:13 PM
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8. if you know it's not yours, don't spend it.
doesn't matter at all what the bank says. This chump stole $2 million, and is rightfully busted for it.

BTW - the customer is responsible for balancing his books, not the bank.

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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:16 PM
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9. if this happened to me, I wouldn't. I'm just trying to figure out....
why the bank should be able to sue this person after they made the mistake and after they chose to ignore the mistake.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:55 PM
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22. Really now
"The 48-year-old salesman said he tried to tell officials at Commerce Bank in December that he did not have a $5 million account. He says he was told it was his and he could withdraw the money."
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:11 PM
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29. The IRS does not share your sentiments either
If it's not yours, don't spend it. Someone will eventually come for it.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:30 PM
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31. like I said up thread, this is not my sentiment
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 10:30 PM by GloriaSmith
if it happened to me, there's no way in hell I would spend the money.

I'm just wondering when or if the bank pays for their mistake and their initial refusal to admit their mistake when the customer brought up the issue. He's getting sued even when he brought this to their attention to begin with.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:21 PM
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11. Yep, just because the bank had their records crossed doesn't give one free-reign
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 03:27 PM by Mike Daniels
to spend money that they definitely know isn't their's.
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:07 PM
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idiots....thats when you withdraw it all and migrate to another country asap.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:48 PM
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19. Standard Operating procedure.
RTFM. Sheesh.

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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:07 PM
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3. Bank "accidentally" gives a customer $5 Million?
Who made out the deposit slip? Who asked for the money? My bank doesn't force money on me when I walk in.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:09 PM
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4. Bwahahahaha
Too funny. Sorry, it wasn't his to spend or give away or invest.

Still, very funny.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:13 PM
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7. It's kind of cool that he gave some of it away, though. -n/t
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 03:14 PM by coalition_unwilling
Maybe his defense attorneys can get some of the recipients of his largesse to testify on his behalf. Played correctly, the jury might just let him walk.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:36 PM
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33. I don't know how cool it is, considering it wasn't his to give away.
Don't give others money that are not your own.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:18 PM
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10. All he has to do is tell the press "I thought it was a gift from God!"
They'll back off.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:24 PM
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12. Oh, good call!
"But I'd been praying for $5 million extra to be in my bank account. It seemed like that was the most obvious reason for it to be there, given that I'd been praying so much!"
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:26 PM
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13. That's what happened at a bank I worked for in the '80s
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 03:26 PM by slackmaster
A teller accidentally deposited $675,000 in a checking account that was chronically overdrawn.

The couple who owned the account spent most of the money, and claimed they thought it was a gift from God.

The bank ate about $400K. We closed the account, but the couple was never charged with a crime.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:28 PM
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15. There isn't actually any way to prove it wasn't a gift from God anyway
Maybe God wanted this guy to have $5 million and therefore caused someone to make a mistake and put the money in his account? Maybe God wanted to redistribute some of the bank's wealth?
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:40 PM
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16. Something tells me that teller was fired...
just guessing :D
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:45 PM
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17. Actually, she wasn't fired
The bank changed the teller system client software for a shortcut key (called the Dupe key) that allowed tellers and others to plug in the last value that was entered in a particular field. They disabled Dupe key functionality for the account number.
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:49 PM
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20. No way!
That's unreal! :rofl: Well, talk about a bad day at the office...
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:27 PM
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14. Let's see what the IRS does next year...
Will this guy have to "declare" the $5 million?
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:47 PM
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18. I would have been out of the country with it before they knew what hit them.
I'd be on a beach in South America by now.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:53 PM
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21. OMFG........I got to get my mind around this story.
It seems he could have withdrew the interest on a daily basis. Then what would be the charge, if he left the money in the bank and didn't touch it?
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:57 PM
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23. Something stinks
"The 48-year-old salesman said he tried to tell officials at Commerce Bank in December that he did not have a $5 million account. He says he was told it was his and he could withdraw the money."

I seriously doubt this part...
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 04:26 PM
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26. Me too. That sounds wierd.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:08 PM
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28. maybe his atm slip said "available for withdrawal" on it...and he took it at it's word...
:shrug:
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AlertLurker Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:58 PM
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24. "America's Most Convenient Bank"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhAHAHAHAHAhAHAHAhA!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 04:24 PM
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25. Most convenient for whom?
We should all know that we can be charged with larceny if we spend money clearly attributed to us by accident. But after trying to correct the error and being told that it was no error, that does seem a bit different. No, one shouldn't rely on that either; but it does seem that the bank should bear some of the responsibility.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:10 PM
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27. I would have gotten legeal title confirmation from the bank in writing
And THEN gone on a spending spree. Just saying the bank told him it was
his won't hold up in court. Proving it with a signed letter from a bank
official will. Also, any bank official asked to sign such a letter will
either check out the reason first, or find himself competing for the janitor's
job a week later.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:23 PM
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30. What if it had been the other way around?
Poor Guy's check gets dumped in Rich Guy's account? To Poor Guy, the bank would say "Tough shit! Go fuck yourself!"
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:32 PM
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32. Did the guy think money fell from heaven or something?
If I had found out I got a five million $ account, I think would figure out it's not mine (eventually).
LOL.
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