The Repubs are taking McCain out. This is a planned hit.

[Lex]

It reeks of a GOP take-down. And we already know the GOP is cozy with the NYT. Just ask Valerie Plame.

[LakeSamish706]

1. OK, But who are they putting in to replace him? n/t

[Bicoastal]

3. Who cares?

:)

[LakeSamish706]

14. I care or I wouldn't have asked the question... duh.. n/t

[Bicoastal]

17. But my point is--if John McCain is by far their strongest candidate, and he ALREADY

has a huge ugly scandal around him, it doesn't really matter who they get to stand in his place.

Their remaining candidates are a joke, their President has never been more unpopular, and the election is pretty much in the bag.

[LakeSamish706]

21. Sorry for jumping you... I'm a little testy tonight... I guess my question is...

Would Romney un-suspend his campaign? I wonder if Huckabee had any kind of understanding that this was about to break, since he refused to drop out of the race....

[peacetalksforall]

48. Maybe you're wrong since Poppy endorsed him. Or is that a part

of the plan also?

[w8liftinglady]

4. that's what I keep wondering...

[live love laugh]

50. Me too. When Ann Coulter chooses Hillary over McCain you know something's up. n/t

[DJ13]

5. Dont forget, Romney did not officially quit

He just suspended his campaign.

The neocons seemed to be backing him above anyone else (why, I dont know. He's not a true conservative either.), so he could concievably reenter the race.

[mth44sc]

11. no one just yet

they are just getting that "I told ya so" in place so they can point it out when the next chance to elect a certifiable wingnut comes along.

At this point they pray that is 4 years after Obama gets elected.

[lpbk2713]

13. Sleazebag Newt has been making more noise lately.

He wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell, but that wouldn't stop him from trying.

[bdamomma]

29. that's a loaded question.

well huckabee is still there.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

39. Joementum

[BattyDem]

2. Oh yeah. This has "GOP stink" all over it.

I just can't figure out why they didn't do it before Romney dropped out. :shrug:

[eShirl]

6. he didn't drop out, he "suspended" his campaign

rather suddenly, too, if the reaction of his supporters at his announcement was any indication

[BattyDem]

30. Oh ... didn't realize that.

Thanks for the info. :hi:

[Lex]

8. Anything keeping Romney from jumping back in?

Who knows.

You know how they are always driving the bus over the cliff anyway.

[AlinPA]

7. This story will go away in a few days; the media loves McCain. It is out now

to get it out of the way. 'Murcans have short memories.

[Cerridwen]

9. It is. And it does reek.

I just can't figure out why. Who do they have in the pipe-line?

Huckabee would get everyone slightly left of "Hitler" (not Godwin's Law; just a notorious fascist) out in droves and Democrats are already voting in the primaries 2, 3 and sometimes 4 to 1 over the repubs.

Who is in the pipeline?

Can't be one who's already dropped out.

Is it Jeb?

edit: spelling

[bdamomma]

35. hmm could it be Bloomberg??

[Cerridwen]

41. Wish I knew. This just doesn't make sense to me. n/t

[Just-plain-Kathy]

36. Jeb? ...Now that's scary! ...n/t

[Cerridwen]

40. Yeah, the bush family dynasty continues. Very scary. n/t

[C_U_L8R]

10. It was going to be a New Republic news coup

if the NYT hadn't jumped 'em.

Sounds like just about everyone in DC had been sitting on this one.
What else are they sitting on?

[Poiuyt]

15. I thought I heard that New Republic was going to do a story on why the NYT was sitting on the McCain

[C_U_L8R]

18. That might well be it... it was on MSNBC

i only could catch what was being said on the closed captioning

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

I really hate to throw chum into a breathless reporting about McCain thread but

he WISHES he was tapping that. :-)

[rurallib]

12. Reeks of Rove.

[Cerridwen]

16. I thought rove was more the whisper-campaign type, or breaking-and-entering

type.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

19. Maybe that was his pre-desperate time of life?

on edit: I'm not sure why he gets credit for anything, anymore??

[Cerridwen]

33. Yeah, I think he get "credit" for things beyond his abilities and intelligence.

Something about the timing and the story is making the hair on the back of my neck stand up.

Oh well, maybe it's just time to turn the heat in the house up. :D

[Lone_Star_Dem]

20. It's possible McCain is tossing this out now rather than it leaking out in October

I read a paper regarding how temporal distances affects ones willingness to forgive transgressions. Basically, it said time may not actually heal all wounds but it helps make a person more inclined to forgive hurts done to them.

There's a very good chance that this entire scandal will get lost in the minds of the Republican voter between now and November. It will be buried under slander and lies about the Democratic candidate.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

23. Hey, this is one 72 yr old who takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'

[Lone_Star_Dem]

43. You evoked a very disturbing mental image for me.

It'll take me weeks to cleanse my poor mind. :scared:

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

45. Hey, Joe Garagiola started it...take it up with him.

:-)

[AlinPA]

32. Yep. Get it out now and 'murcans will forget it in two weeks.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

44. It's not like this would be a first.

American voters are not the brightest bunch.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

49. "American voters are not the brightest bunch" Well, because of them the talking heads don't know

:wtf: to say. I happen to like American voters.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

51. Since I had referenced Republicans voters upthread

And since we were talking about a Republican candidates votes, I mistakenly thought it was still understood that was who I was referring to.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

52. So, the words you posted did not reflect your intended meaning?

It happens, although I tend to appreciate all voters.
:hi:

[Lone_Star_Dem]

53. There we disagree

I don't appreciate those who brought us the Bush presidency. Twice. I wouldn't have spared one moment of regret for their lost votes if they'd have decided to stay home rather than go and cast their ballot in either of those elections.

[librechik]

22. yes it does

especially since they pulled it out of cold storage to launch it--

[Lex]

26. exactly--

and I don't think all repubs are behind it--just the extra scary ones that think McCain is too lib'rul

[TankLV]

24. I would not poo poo the idea - the backwash has made it clear they don't like him...

makes as much sense as anything...

[Lex]

27. yeah, I think it's the really scary ones who think McCain's a 'lib'rul'

and the Rush Limbaugh types etc.

[AlCzervik]

25. it wouldn't surprise me but who, round up the usual suspects.

[Lex]

31. Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh and the like

apparently despise McCain. It'll be interesting to see who decided to drag the story out as it's been around a while.

[AlCzervik]

34. well a democrat in the whitehouse would be awfully good for right wing radio business.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

47. True that.

The only common enemy they can join against now is McCain(?)

Kind of funny, kind of sad.

edit, grammer

[Cleita]

28. I think so too.

They really don't want him to go as far as the convention. Time to shoot him in the knees now so he doesn't have any legs to get there.

[Bolo Boffin]

37. They really are white knuckling it if they are.

McCain's got no reason to release his delegates. Romney or Huckabee have to win almost every state from here on out to get the nomination without a *choke* brokered convention.

[Old and In the Way]

38. 'Tis odd, the timing.

I think McCain matched up well with Hillary...traditional Republican vs. traditional Democrat. But it's pretty obvious watching Obama's recent run the past few weeks that McCain is like the caretaker on the Titantic. He's doomed. He's powerless to change course, but he's the guy who'll be remembered as the guy at the helm when the ship went down.

He probably knows it too. The whole reason he stayed in the race was to recoup his campaign costs through public financing. Maybe he wants off the Titanic and the Republicans want someone who can match up better against Obama? Maybe Romney? His campaign operation was suspended, not disbanded. He's got a big investment in winning. Hmmmm. Maybe the RNC got this story out to help expedite McCain's decision to exit now while they can still make a race out it? This is fascinating stuff and I don't think an 8 year old story gets The Big Play in a Republican corporate media environment without some hidden orchestration by people with a vested interest in maintaining control of the White House.

I'm betting McCain is gone bt the end of the week....he'll get the full media treatment, decry the old politics, probably accuse the Democrats of dirty tricks, decides to do the honorable thing for his Party (and probably has all of his expenses liquidated in the process)and enjoy his remaining years as a Senator.

[DB1]

42. NO. It is pseudo scandal, there will be at least one per candidate....

all fake, all for ratings, nothing will stick, it is a whole 2 weeks until the next primary and MSM has to keep people interested. The only thing that could stop what I predict is a missing female blond! I think we won't see our next publicized blond victim until both nominees are decided.

[leftofthedial]

46. Dick Cheney will take over

and the SCOTUS will issue a ruling granting him the office of Prezdunt.

[Moloch]

54. This is absurd tin-foil hattery.

It is not possible for Hickabee or any of the other republicans to catch up with mccain in terms of delegates now.

There's not really any need to pin this on rove anyway. His "black baby" smear was one of the most disgusting things in political history. Even if he is responsible for this, it pales in comparison to that.

I hope all of this turns out to be true and it will sink the mccain candidacy, but karl rove had nothing to do with this. It benefits the Democratic nominee and instead of hatching bizarre conspiracy theories, you should be happy that we will win the presidency.

[Lex]

56. LOL. I didn't say anything about Rove at all.

But thanks for playing.

[JCMach1]

55. Dobson- Revenge from the right!