I'm now convinced that McCain had an affair...

[book_worm]

He said point blank there was no "romantic relationship" but didn't mention anything about a "sexual relationship." Still I wonder how relevant it is something that may have happened 8 years ago?

[WinkyDink]

1. I caught that, too! Heh, heh. Doesn't he know what "is" is?!

[GreenPartyVoter]

34. I thought the same thing

[acmavm]

2. Ewwwwwww! I hate it when these things come out simply because

of the high ick factor.

[Virginia Dare]

3. So no flowers or candy..

just wham bam thank you ma'am?:shrug:

[johnfunk]

14. ... just a cigar!

:rofl:

[TwilightGardener]

4. Relevant = personal relationship with lobbyist whose clients needed favors from him.

[WinkyDink]

25. This has it all! Why exclude any element?! :)

[bluerum]

5. No romance - just lobbyist sex for political favors. Ho hum.

[skooooo]

6. No romance, just some tender feelings I'm sure. nt

[tekisui]

7. It's relevant. It is long overdue, but the M$M is finally not going along with the

Straight Talking Maverick bullshit.

[havocmom]

8. And Buchanan sounds about ready to stroke out....

hmm, not sure how I feel about that possibility :dilemma:

[Hepburn]

35. Just watching Pat as I read your post....

...and his BP must be 200/150. Talk about being upset and spinning!

[0007]

44. Pat & Bay would make a nice couple to gossip about on a rainy pm.

[kevinbgoode]

9. Seems to me McCain would have been better off. . .

if he had trolled through the French Quarter with Senator Vitter and paid for the attention. Oh..wait...it was a lobbyist. :-).

[sam sarrha]

11. so isnt that 'Getting Paid' for sex and political favors.. her whore boy

[SpiralHawk]

38. But not all republicons are into diaper sex with hookers

just a plurality...

[enid602]

10. business

It's just business, like when he had to get rid of his first wife (who'd waited years for him while he was a POW) after she became crippled and overweight, as a result of a traumatic automobile accident. Hell, if his current wife's dad was not a filthy rich beer distributor, he'd probably have gotten rid of her as well.

[CTyankee]

12. crippled and overweight. I'd like to read more about that.

Do you have a link to that story. It's great fodder for me to use with any Repuke who wants to sing McCain's praises...:hi:

[sam sarrha]

16. file that one next to Gingrech..

[kskiska]

18. Here's a link

(snip)

While he was imprisoned, Carol was in an auto wreck (1969), thrown through her car's windshield and left seriously injured. Despite her injures, she refused to allow her POW husband to be notified about her condition, fearing that such news would not be good for him while he was being held prisoner.

When McCain returned to the United States in 1973 after more than five years as a prisoner of war, he found his wife was a different person. The accident "left her 4 inches shorter and on crutches, and she had gained a good deal of weight."

(snip)

McCain Divorce Settlement Outlined
By BILL KACZOR
Associated Press Writer
February 24, 2000

PENSACOLA, Fla. (AP) - John McCain gave up his interest in two homes and agreed to pay $1,625 a month in alimony and child support when he divorced his first wife 20 years ago, court records show.

(snip)

McCain, 63, gave her his interest in homes in Alexandria, Va., and South Ponte Vedra Beach, Fla., according to records of the divorce settlement obtained by The Associated Press and other newspapers.

The Arizona senator agreed to give her their furnishings, $1,325 a month in alimony, $300 in child support. He also agreed to pay an additional $500 monthly if she couldn't find a job.

more…
http://www.usvetdsp.com/mcaindiv.htm

[CTyankee]

23. That bastard is even worse than I thought! Thanks for the link.

He sure had his nerve describing his first "date" with Cindy if he was still married and living at home.

Anyone know where the former Mrs. McCain is now?

[kskiska]

24. I've never been able to find a picture

of the first Mrs. McCain. I don't know where she is now, but she's apparently happy enough with her payoff.

[blondeatlast]

36. Here's a good article about his marriage and divorce:

First, McCain's second marriage enabled him to launch his career as a politician. If he had not married Cindy, he would not have moved to Arizona. He would not have had the financial resources to lay the groundwork for his first congressional campaign. He would not have been in position to run for Senate or to learn about politics from conservative Barry Goldwater or liberal Mo Udall.

On the campaign trail, McCain jokes about the failed presidential bids by Goldwater, Udall and Bruce Babbitt. "Arizona," he likes to say, "may be the only state where mothers don't tell their sons they can grow up to be president of the United States."

If McCain had not married Cindy, he may have been making a similar joke about Reubin Askew and Florida. But he would not be talking about Arizona.

Second, McCain is not winning primary elections because of detailed position papers. He wings it on most issues, particularly domestic policy. The Arizona senator presents an unanticipated challenge to Texas Gov. George W. Bush because voters like his personal resume and his pledge to restore dignity and integrity to the White House.

http://www.sptimes.com/News/022900/Worldandnation/Private_life_shaped_c.shtml

[BobbyVan]

13. There was more evidence on John Edwards -- is this all there is?

The only effect this will have on McCain is that conservatives will rally around him now.

The NYT just did a huge favor to McCain, and I'm disgusted.

[WinkyDink]

26. Like what, re: JRE? Anything NOT just in a tabloid, huh? The NYT ain't no briar patch, for McCain.

[Smith_3]

15. Anything that can be used against him is relevant.

Considering the GOPs history of being total assholes with regard to campagning decency, at this years election we should really leave no dung unslung.

[ellie]

17. Gross. Just gross

I wouldn't sleep with that asshole for all the money in the world. People are insane.

[Warpy]

19. The relevance depends entierly on how long the favors

were being handed out afterwards, for the sake of such a special friend.

If a brief period of shtupping led to years of preferential treatment, then it's very relevant.

[Medusa]

20. We need to be careful here.

What if a sexual affair story pops up about either HRC or Obama? Then what? We can't take the moral highground if we've went after McCain for this. If we can find out that yes, his affair with her did cloud his judgment in pressing bills forward on behalf of her clients, then we need to go with that, but sex in and of itself? Big deal. Happens all the time. And it may well have happened with one of our candidates. Then what? What if news of THAT happens?

[TwilightGardener]

21. Sorry, the family values party needs to be slapped with their own hypocrisy.

[WinkyDink]

28. STRAW MAN MUCH?

[Virginia Dare]

29. It didn't stop the repubs from taking the moral high ground..

when the Clinton scandal broke. Look how many of them have been since caught out.

If Senator McCain is going to put himself up on a pedestal as having a 25 year clean record of not giving out to or receiving from special favors to lobbyists, and it turns out he did, then he needs to answer for it. This has nothing to do with either Hillary or Obama.

[TwilightGardener]

30. Right--he's the one who built his campaign around his "honor" and ethics--

perfectly OK that we're examining his record on that.

[blondeatlast]

37. It's the banking, not the boinking. nt

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

41. I don't care about a politician's sex life

McCain could be having orgies with dozens of partners for all I care. And I don't care about Hillary Clinton's or Barack Obama's sex lives. But apparently, some voters do, especially in the Republican Party.

What I do care about are favors that might be given by a politician in return for sex. If that happened with this lobbyist, then it's highly relevant. That would make the act one of prostitution, with John McCain a real "John".

[Demagitator]

22. Politics is perception

[Araxen]

27. fuck friends

that's what she could be. It doesn't have to be romantic.

[dysfunctional press]

31. he's not a decrepit old man- he's a virile lothario...that's what this "scandal" is supposed to do..

make the american sheeple see The Man in a whole different way.

[B Calm]

32. He had an affair with Cindy while married to his first wife. Of course

he had an affair! but, something tells me the swiftboating of McCain is somehow linked to Rush Limbaugh. . . .

[TwilightGardener]

33. No, Limpballs is defending him. The Librul Media is after our nominee!!

[B Calm]

39. Ha. . . Of course he's blaming the so called liberal media.. Truth is,

the corporate media is on his side and are helping him to swiftboat McCain. He's blaming the liberal media to cover his ass.

[orleans]

42. msnbc did BREAKING NEWS of limbaugh responding to the mccain story

this is "breaking news?"

and of course limbaugh used the phrase THE DRIVE-BY MEDIA

[havocmom]

45. Just breaking: Irrelevant junkie 'comedian' in a tizzy

I always wonder if Lewis would play Limbaugh in a movie about drugged out hate mongers on radio. Black could probably have a lot of fun and score some serious points.

Hmmmm, must look into how screenplay format is done....

[spinbaby]

40. What's Limpballs have to say for himself today?

I can't bear to listen to him.

[Thepricebreaker]

43. You can't be that stupid.... he would never use the world sexual to begin with..

The story talks about a romantic relationship, not a sexual one.

Also, romantic sounds better then sexual. Why would he give he media more ammo?

I see a lot of people here know nothing about how politics works.

He said the entire story was untrue.. i would assume that covers sex, without saying it.

If he did say "sex" they would say.. why, the article didn't even say that! What are you trying to amply!