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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:31 AM
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John McCain's Family Values
This article by Glen Greenwald was beyond brilliant: http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/09/01/mccain/index.html

Here is John McCain's "straight talk", in defense of traditional marriage yesterday, regarding the Iowa state court's decision declaring unconstitutional that state's opposite-sex-only marriage law:

John McCain also entered the fray last night, calling the decision "a loss for the traditional family," and noting that he supports "the traditional definition of marriage as between one man and one woman."


By stark contrast, this is John McCain's "straight action":

McCain was still married and living with his wife in 1979 while, according to The New York Times' Nicholas Kristof, "aggressively courting a 25-year-old woman who was as beautiful as she was rich." McCain divorced his wife, who had raised their three children while he was imprisoned in Vietnam, then launched his political career with his new wife's family money.


How can John McCain claim to believe that the law should recognize only "traditional marriages" while simultaneously demanding that the law recognize his own so-called "second marriage" -- also known as "an adulterous relationship" under the precepts of "traditional marriage" (Mark 10:11 -- "And he said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another, commits adultery against her").

The issue is not that McCain sinned in the past. It is that he argues now that the law ought to recognize only "the traditional definition of marriage" while simultaneously demanding that the law recognize and treat as equal his own "marriage," which is as much a deviation from the "traditional definition" as the same-sex marriages he opposes. How can someone with this "family" stand up in public and claim to support the "traditional definition of marriage"?

McCain married Carol Shepp, his first wife, in 1965. He adopted her two children from a previous marriage, and they have a daughter, born in 1966. The couple divorced in 1980. He and his second wife, Cindy, have four children.


Whatever else that family is, "traditional" is not it. But the only reason this glaring contradiction can be maintained is because most of the media and huge numbers of voters even outside of the "Value Voters" sphere have convinced themselves -- driven by obvious self-interest and oozing self-centeredness -- that the only rule of "traditional marriage" is that you need a man and a woman and provided that rule is complied with, all other types of marriages and divorces qualify as "traditional."


Hypocrisy, thy name is modern conservatism.

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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:33 AM
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1. He's a republican for Pete's sake. Do you expect anything
else from any of 'em?

I don't. It is SOP.
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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:37 AM
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2. I like the fact that he bankrolled his political career with Cindy's $$$
and then used his political position to cheat on her.

Wow. Just wow.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:52 AM
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6. Word. He's a total opportunist, politically and otherwise.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:39 AM
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3. The article fails to mention that McCain left wife#1 after she was left crippled from
a car accident.
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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:41 AM
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4. Wow. This story just gets classier and classier.
Can you imagine ANY Dem candidate with the same background getting the free pass that McCain has gotten?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:53 AM
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8. How about a candidate's WIFE not being proud enough of Amurka?
Ridiculous double standard. I can't even believe that was a story. Let's see how fast they drop the McCain thing and go back to Obama leading a cult and Michelle hating her country.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 10:14 AM
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10. Now let's flashback to 2000. Wasn't Cindy McCain supposedly addicted to prescription drugs? This
would be at the same time that McCain was romantically involved with Iseman. I wonder if there is a connection. Either because Cindy was "crippled" by her addiction or perhaps addicted because of John's roaming? All speculation, but interesting to me none the less.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:43 AM
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5. Another good ammo post
We are going to be in for a rough fight, between now and November. Post like these provide the ammo to shut down every flawed right wing argument, you may encounter. Keep up the good work!
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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:52 AM
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7. That's the goal!
Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 10:06 AM
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9. Consider this: Vicki Iseman was born while John McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton!
Vicki Iseman was twelve years old when McCain divorced his first wife, after 15 years of marriage (during which time she waited for him while he was a P.O.W.), for wifey #2 .. the rich one, and young then, too (25).

McCain apparently has a penchant for young women.
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