babylonsister
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Thu Feb-21-08 12:54 PM
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Theory: McCain debacle is now a rallying cry for conservatives to |
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get behind him to defeat those nasty liberals. After all the vitriol spewing from Limbaugh's yapper about McCain recently, this affords him and his followers an opportunity to save face and back McCain, and label it 'us vs. them'.
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Thu Feb-21-08 12:56 PM
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1. Unless there is more to this story it will end up rallying GOP to McCain |
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because of what they will say is a biased "liberal press." I don't know why the NY Times sat on this story so long and frankly unless there is more to it I think it will fade within a few days.
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Thu Feb-21-08 01:00 PM
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7. Wouldn't that be the last thing the Right wants |
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this is no man's land in terms of an election cycle. This revelation has absolutely no impact on any of the remaining Republican Primaries and if it's raised again in the general election it's a recycled item and would be a virtual non-story.
I hope this story does die a quick death if it's just the hypocracy of McCain having an affair with a lobbyist.
However, if the story is more about influence peddling and quid pro quo's, that's a whole nother ballgame.
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Thu Feb-21-08 12:56 PM
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I think kentuck has a thread about this, too.
They have rallied round the neo-con, snake-oil buying, wingnuts against a "common enemy".
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Thu Feb-21-08 12:57 PM
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:thumbsup: Against that never-reliable agenda-driven NYT.
And they should have left the 'affair' allegations out of it. The influence-peddling is way worse.
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Thu Feb-21-08 12:59 PM
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Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 01:01 PM by acrosstheuniverse
that this New York Times piece will rally the right in NOVEMBER? (when it really counts) Sorry I don't see that happening. If it does then that is just plain stupid and pathetic because there are a lot bigger issues that matter more.
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Richardo
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Thu Feb-21-08 01:08 PM
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9. I agree - but the GOP latches on to 'stupid and pathetic' with a death-like grip. |
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1) If it rallies them NOW they won't remember why they didn't like him when November rolls around. 2) Despite all their protestations to the contrary, they'll be looking for rationales to support McCain over either Democrat. 3) Any accusations of sexual misconduct will be lumped into the 'personal business' category and equated to Bill CLinton's behavior and the Democrats' defense of same. Even though influence-peddling was not a motive in the Clinton case.
The right will use all their 'us-vs-them' power to rally their troops from their apathy. Gotta have that wedge: be it gay rights, the monolithic "liberal" media, creeping socialism, etc.
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Thu Feb-21-08 12:57 PM
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4. At least, temporarily... |
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until they can see an opportunity for one of their own to step in and take his place at the Convention.
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L. Coyote
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Thu Feb-21-08 12:59 PM
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5. Time to rally around their John! Even if it really stinks? Strange way of making lemonade. |
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but, hey, if all you have left is one old lemon .....
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Thu Feb-21-08 01:00 PM
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1. It is a ploy to rally the RW behind McCain; and
2. It is a real plan to fuck McCain over and give the nom to an RW nutcase.
IMO, I just do not trust the MSM to be on the up and up about anything...but instead to have hidden motives.
JMHO
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Thu Feb-21-08 01:01 PM
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8. Maybe they will outlaw women in business too. If women would just behave..... |
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Nasty girls. What the liberals didn't screw up, nasty girls did LOL. Yep, gotta get veils on all the wimmins and not let them out alone!
Saw a couple winger posts to a Raw Story article the other day. Some of those wingers still think all the things wrong with their lives can be laid at Eve's feet and when they destroy feminism (one chap insists it WILL get done) everything will be both hunky and dorey.
Liberals and feminists.... next up, pagans and homosexuals... It is NEVER about the GOP and the global corporations that just don't want to pay living wages and be subjected to any regulation and safety requirements. It's the wimmins and liberals that are to blame.
We GOTTA get serious about mental health care in this nation.
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Thu Feb-21-08 01:16 PM
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10. McCain might see it that way |
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But if conservatives who don't like him (and many are about as excited about him as Sen. Clinton's supporters are about Sen. Obama, i.e., not very) have their way, they might hope this scandal has legs now so that they can leverage him out of the way before the convention and get their own man (whoever that may be) nominated instead.
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Thu Feb-21-08 01:23 PM
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11. what is Rush saying about this nice Xmas present that dopped in his lap? |
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Thu Feb-21-08 01:54 PM
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13. I heard him on m$m bloviating; he's supporting McCain against |
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the evil librul media...today. Thus my theory.
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Thu Feb-21-08 02:20 PM
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14. hmmph. Rush is such a flip flopper. |
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Thu Feb-21-08 01:27 PM
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12. Rush Limbaugh and Romney are behind this swift boating! |
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Thu Feb-21-08 02:28 PM
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15. KILL THE LIBERAL MESSENGERS! KILL THE LIBERAL MESSENGERS! |
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Even though RWers all hate McCain, they hate the NYTimes more.
Yay! The Republican Party! United At Last!
Thanks, NYT!
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Thu Feb-21-08 02:39 PM
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16. Theory: Young has been under fire for an appropriation he helped secure for a Florida road .... |
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Of course, Young says he is "cooperating with the Justice Dept." Abramoff's buddies are in jail for their quid pro quos.
McCain has gotten big bucks from Greenburg Taurig too!
Leaving aside the implications in the raw story (that the DoJ is just a cooperating criminal), McCain may be in the same position as Young. He was getting money from someone he was involved with "legislatively," the one relationship in this story that matters criminally.
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