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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:42 AM
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Turkey Invades Iraq: Tell me Again How We Are Getting Out
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 10:44 AM by RestoreGore
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080222/ap_on_re_mi_ea/turkey_iraq

By CHRISTOPHER TORCHIA, Associated Press Writer
Fri Feb 22, 7:36 AM ET

ISTANBUL, Turkey - Turkish troops launched a ground incursion across the border into Iraq in pursuit of separatist Kurdish rebels, the military said Friday — a move that dramatically escalates Turkey's conflict with the militants.

It is the first confirmed ground operation by the Turkish military into Iraq since the U.S.-led invasion that toppled Saddam Hussein. It also raised concerns that it could trigger a wider conflict with the U.S.-backed Iraqi Kurds, despite Turkey's assurances that its only target was the Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK.

The ground operation started after Turkish warplanes and artillery bombed suspected rebel targets on Thursday, the military said on its Web site. The incursion was backed by the Air Force, the statement said.

Turkey has conducted air raids against the PKK guerrillas in northern Iraq since December, with the help of U.S. intelligence, and it has periodically carried out so-called "hot pursuits" in which small units sometimes spend only a few hours inside Iraq.

The announcement of a cross-border, ground incursion of a type that Turkey carried out before the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a major development in its conflict with the Kurdish rebels, which started in 1984 and has claimed as many as 40,000 lives.
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I don't think it matters who is "president", we have already taken this too far. Now that Turkey has invaded Iraq is it even possible to think now that we will be drawing down troops? Will we ever get the REAL TRUTH about what is going on there from ANY of them? And of course, Bush and his cabal have at least ten more months to continue to do whatever the hell they want to make sure we can't get out. And if I remember right, I believe I read that Bush agreed to give Turkey nuclear secrets... Is this what they get in return? Ratcheting up this war to keep it going? I would say then for none of the candidates to even stand up for impeaching these bastards should be enough to disqualify them from running for the presidency. This war is FAR from over.
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FightingIrish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:45 AM
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1. Maybe we could invoke the Pottery Barn rule
We tell Turkey that they broke it and now it's theirs.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:46 AM
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3. Look what happens when a Chimp becomes president.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:49 AM
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4. his a$$ needs to be thrown out.
a long time ago, I only wish the American people would get enraged to do this, we need to take lessons from other countries that is for damn sure.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:57 AM
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7. thinking about....


nothing.

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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:35 AM
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10. I never thought I would have lived through something like this
In this country.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:33 PM
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12. you are probably not alone with that thought.
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 01:34 PM by alyce douglas
but it makes you wonder, when is our tipping point?? we see other countries who have millions of people go out in the streets and start all kinds of unrest, and usually succeed, Do we have to reach a point that we follow their lead. I mean it's disgusting what is happening and they are still in abuse of power. In some way, I think during this primary voting season we are seeing record numbers of Americans voting, does anyone think we are scaring the crap out of the repig party. Again, it is people massing together for a cause they believe in. (oops I am kind of off topic)
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bronxiteforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:46 AM
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2. Kick & R-
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:49 AM
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5. the only way out - apologize and get the fuck out
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:38 AM
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11. Personally, I think we are beyond the apology stage
Meaning, that would not even be enough. We are now tied to Iraq and what happens there whether we want it not. And I am so damned angry at those in Congress including the "candidates" in it running for doing nothing in their campaigns but stroking their own egos while it gets worse.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:56 AM
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6. Don't worry. Bush is "protecting" the Kurds and the Iraqi borders.
Troops will arrive shortly.

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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:03 AM
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8. Serbs burn down U.S. Embassy -- Turkey invades Iraq -- Weird satellite stunt -- Iraq fucked --
-- who is at the wheel of this short bus?
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:33 AM
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9. That bus has already gone over the guard rail...
And these are issues we should he concerned about and discussing. Not worrying about where someone got a couple of lines in a speech. We truly have gone through the looking glass. I am concerned for my teenage son in all of this. I am not convinced that regardless of who gets the Wh that we will not have a draft in the next couple of years... and not ONE candidate has said or done anything to soothe that fear.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:36 PM
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13. not us that is for sure.
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