ThomWV
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Fri Feb-22-08 01:59 PM
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Al Jazeera English is reporting Turkey has sent 10,000 troops into Iraq |
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Fri Feb-22-08 02:02 PM
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This doesn't sound like a good think to me...
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Fri Feb-22-08 02:02 PM
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2. Well, if the PKK would stop killing people in Turkey... |
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Fri Feb-22-08 02:04 PM
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You know this problem is a lot older than the PKK.
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Fri Feb-22-08 02:22 PM
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7. You mean in Free Kurdistan, right? |
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Fri Feb-22-08 02:26 PM
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8. I mean that historically, the problems between these |
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two groups is older than the PKK. Many centuries older.
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Fri Feb-22-08 02:52 PM
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11. Yes, it is. And if it were within my power, I'd create an Independent Kurdistan, |
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and the Turks would have to contribute some territory to it, and leave the Kurds alone.
I am not at all unmindful of the plight of the Kurds, but if they're going to be killing people in Turkey, they're going to have to expect that the Turks will retaliate.
It's just the way of the world, unfortunately.
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Fri Feb-22-08 02:54 PM
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all the way back to a collective identity as "Kurds" versus "Turks" or the wholly imaginary "Iraqi."
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Fri Feb-22-08 05:03 PM
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14. Have you just succumbed to the general snarkiness |
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of DU lately, or are you assuming I'm picking one side over another?
I wasn't in either post, nor will I in this one - I was simply suggesting that there is a very long history of antipathy here that predates the PKK. Redstone has impressed me in the past with the thoughtfulness of his postings and I was a bit surprised to see that one, which is why I responded to it.
geeze - this place is a flippin' mind field these days.
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Fri Feb-22-08 05:16 PM
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15. I was agreeing with you |
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not meaning to be snarky. but I can see how it came off that way. Apologies.
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Fri Feb-22-08 07:04 PM
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19. Thank you for explaining - and I also |
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apologise for being thin-skinned. Please forgive me.
This place is starting to get to me . . .
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Fri Feb-22-08 02:03 PM
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3. Prepare another Supplemental. |
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Fri Feb-22-08 02:28 PM
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Quite honestly, were it not for the innocent minorities in the region (the indigenous Assyrians, as well as Armenians, and others) I'd love to see the Turks and their former pals Kurds go at it.
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Fri Feb-22-08 02:47 PM
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10. If I were Armenian, I'm sure I'd feel that way too. |
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What the Turks did to the Armenians was a LONG time ago, but there are some things that can't be forgotten, or forgiven.
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Fri Feb-22-08 02:22 PM
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6. They've sent smaller units of troops in before |
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and the Turks and the PKK have been lobbing bombs at each other for about three years, this go around.
This is why the partition of Iraq will never happen. The Kurdish portion would likely be annexed by Turkey, which will never support an independent Kurdistan on its border. The Kurds will never accept Turkish rule, so the conflict will be a very long and vicious one should some idiot in Washington try to partition the country.
The Turks have marched into Kurdish territory a few times over the last year, killed a bunch of the usual suspects, and marched back out. We'll just have to hope that the pattern repeats itself with the larger force.
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Fri Feb-22-08 02:55 PM
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13. Turkey could try annexation but the int'l community would not recognize it but condemn it. |
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It would sink Turkey's chances of ever gaining membership in the EU and potentially crack NATO relations permanently.
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Fri Feb-22-08 05:17 PM
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16. And yet all afternoon we watch an airport, waiting for a plane to land. |
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I haven't heard a PEEP about this on any of the 24/7 blabfests...
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Fri Feb-22-08 05:19 PM
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17. This would seem to be a very big story |
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Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 05:20 PM by Mike03
It sounded big when I read it twelve hours ago, and I don't understand why more concerns are not being raised. Is this not one of the scenarios or more obvious predictive outcomes we have feared all along, or at least for three or four years now?
This is not good, nor is it a situation to make light of.
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Fri Feb-22-08 05:41 PM
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18. So now we have to go to AlJazeera |
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to get breaking news.
Aisian Times is a good source too. Very good.
Is Bush still in Africa? Nothing yet from the MSM?
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Fri Feb-22-08 07:18 PM
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20. With permission from the war criminsls |
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They're all willing to kill everyone for that oil.
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