Did anyone just see on C-Span 3

[Fredda Weinberg]

Brit Hume of Fox News describing how Robert Bennett (McCain's lawyer) just happened to be booked on the network (he's coming out w/a new book) when Drudge came out w/the NYT report. Now, tell me again that this wasn't rigged ...

[blm]

1. That's exactly what I believe. I think Bill's 2004 book tour was also scheduled to prop up

up Bush at that crucial point in the 2004 campaign.

3 solid weeks of making headlines that touted Clinton's support for Bush's decisions on terrorism and Iraq war, even as the Dem nominee was attacking those decisions.

Anyone REALLY believe Clinton was just 'naive' and didn't realize he was making great headlines POSITIVE for Bush during that 3 week promotional book tour?

I sure don't.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/

Especially when you add in Carville's sabotage of Ohio Dem voters on election night.
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward

[Fredda Weinberg]

2. So you really think the Big Dog wanted another four years of *? Never mind

I don't want to touch that conclusion with a ten foot pole. But that has nothing to do with this.

[blm]

3. Yes. Clintons PROTECT Bushes and Hillary was set up to continue for Bush2 what Bill did for Bush1.

http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

How the HECK do you think a Bush2 was even POSSIBLE?

[Fredda Weinberg]

4. How the HECK? I saw it as events unfolded. But no, Kerry let himself

be swiftboated by whatever demons held him back.

In this case, DUers could have seen and heard for themselves how this scenario was staged - heck, the show is called, "Road to the White House."

But your focus is on bashing the Clintons. How revealing ...

[blm]

5. Bush2 was gearing up to get back into the WH by 1994.

BTW - Kerry won. The swifts had NOTHING to do with him not getting the votes he earned - the failure of Terry McAuliffe (Hillary2008)to secure the election process after 2000's RAMPANT election fraud assured Kerry would never get all his votes counted. And Carville assured that Ohio Dem voters would be sabotaged.
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward

You want to believe Clintons were there for us Democrats - but they never were - they sided with BushInc's secrecy and privilege throughout the 90s, and worked AGAINST any Dem who stood to oppose Bush2 the last 7 yrs.


http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354


http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

[Fredda Weinberg]

6. I see your fixation and raise you a 9/11 conspiracy. C'mon, don't

disappoint me ...

[blm]

7. You are welcome to write a comment to historian Doug Brinkley, investigative reporter Robert Parry,

and Bob Woodward, and Bill, himself, as he was the one defending Bush on Iraq throughout his 3 week book tour.

You want to pretend Bill was just naive and didn't realize how his 3 week high profile defense of Bush's n Iraq would play?

You want to submit that Carville didn't REALIZE that Bush would call Blackwell with the info he provided Matalin?

Go ahead - I won't believe you mean a word of it.

[Fredda Weinberg]

8. I guess what matters is that I contribute to Parry's consortium

Although I don't remember seeing this in his newsletters.

Let's see ... it's the Clintons ... anyone attached to their campaigns ... got more into this conspiracy to defeat Kerry in '04?

I don't mind ... it keeps this thread where others can see what's happening this election cycle.

[blm]

9. Well, their past sabotage IS coming back to haunt them THIS election cycle, isn't it?

.

[Fredda Weinberg]

10. Strange you should see the glass so empty. After all, she's the last

man standing, so to speak, against Obama ... not bad against formidable competition. So nothing has haunted her - last night, for example, she was the epitomy of grace.

No, I'm afraid your hostility is your own. What a shame that it blinds you from what's important this election cycle ... McCain has just gotten himself past a nasty Washington Post story with the coverage over the NYT article. And Brit Hume is laughing ...

[blm]

13. And Hillary and Bill helped Bush at crucial times BUT THAT escaped your notice?

You didn't NOTICE Bill's 3 week defense of Bush tour in 2004?
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/


Or Hillary JOINING Bush and McCain's lie against Kerry in 2006?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

You think Bush2 just happened without Bill protecting Bush1 and his cronies throughout the 90s?

http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

I guess in YOUR world nothing the Clintons have done to protect the Bushes all these years has had any negative consequences for Democratic party or for this nation.

[Fredda Weinberg]

15. I'm sitting here watching Samantha Powers talking to Jeremy Scahill

on Democracy Now ... love the way she's holding back the laughter. Honestly, I'm trying just as hard.

[blm]

16. Go ahead. Parry doesn't think it's funny. Nor do many here at DU.

You do, and that shows your need to look the other way when Clintons show their bad character.

Laugh away - their past actions are blowing back on them now, whether you notice or not.

[Fredda Weinberg]

17. It was a satisfying show ... Scahill made a fool of himself because

there was finally someone to confront him who knew the real facts. Guess you're not used to it either.

[blm]

18. Yes - you are welcome to debate the facts as observed by Brinkley, Woodward and Parry.

You are also welcome to analyze Bill's 3 week defense of Bush in 2004 and why he would choose THAT timing to embark on that tour.

Would also love to read YOUR brilliant assessment of what happened to the BCCI report handed to Bill when he took office....the list of outstanding matters in the report requiring further scrutiny should be of particular interest to someone who claims they know the facts.

[Fredda Weinberg]

19. Bill Clinton should have gone after Clark Clfford?

You still think caging was an illegal activity and Palast's meeting w/Conyers was going to produce indictments, right? This farce has gone on long enough. I know what I know because I inform myself - you are dredging up nonsense.

[blm]

20. Clark Clifford was a peripheral figure in a smaller matter. You'd know that if you really

informed yourself. He just proved to be as used as anyone else by those who brought BCCI into this country.

Who was Jackson Stephens to BCCI, to GHWBush and to Bill Clinton? And did you see any DOJ action directed at HIM?

[Fredda Weinberg]

21. I've heard all this from you before ... you really hate that man.

Well, he's gone now, now find something worth frothing over.

[blm]

22. Well, we are living through the consequences of Bill's decision to deep-six all

those matters for BushInc. Bush2, 9-11, this Iraq war aren't enough for you to be concerned about the continuing coverups of BCCI matters, maybe our war with Iran will.

[burythehatchet]

12. I never put those two things together...duh n/t

[burythehatchet]

11. You want know what's even worse? This is at least the second time they've pulled the same stunt

They did it the night that the news broke. I don't recall what program.

[Fredda Weinberg]

14. We should avoid such traps - let this cycle pass and hit McCain

when the luster dulls.