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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 12:19 PM
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The Buckley legacy:
Buckley worked at a daunting pace, taking as little as 20 minutes to write a column for his magazine, the National Review.

That's right a well researched opinion based on a thorough knowledge of the subject takes only 20 minutes to write... not. Buckley ushered in the era of knowing your are right and simply making up facts to support what you already know must be right. The only difference between Buckley and the rethug generation that followed is that most of them aren't intelligent enough to make their made up crap sound intellectual in the 20 minutes they hack out their non reality based blah. (accept may be George Will) A conservatives see 20 minutes in that context and says "he must be amazingly smart to write a whole piece that complex in that time", where a liberal sees 20 minutes and says "yah that's about how long it should take to hack out that drivel."

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elizfeelinggreat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 12:25 PM
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1. good point
That's how fast you can do that kind of work when all you care about is the income and you know your boss will cover your ass (and even owe you a favor) for writing what he wants to read.
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nels25 Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 01:04 PM
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3. When I was at the college
I wrote commentary for the school newspaper. Staffers were amazed that on more than one occasion I could sit down and produce a 1000 word essay in around 20-25 minutes, they were some what amazed.

Still the pieces were deemed good work and always well received.

So it can be done.

I once sat down and did an 8 page short paper for my POLI-SCI professor based on observations I had at an internship he arranged for me in just short of 2 hours, with little notes and mostly off the top of my head.

That paper I was later told by my professor was footnoted by another professor at UW-Whitewater in conjunction with his writings of the 1994 elections.

It is on file with the Kenosha Historical Society.
:hi:
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elizfeelinggreat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 01:54 PM
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6. I was not talking about you
:hi:

I was talking about them.

Unless you're saying you're a political hack, then take it as you wish.
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nels25 Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 03:20 PM
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7. No I did not think that you were
I merely wanted to point out that a well written and received paper can be produced in a short amount of time.

I meant no offense.

While I regard Mr. Buckley as a bit to high brow for my taste (to me there is such a thing as over using the language). I still think he should be allowed to rest in peace.

Like him or not he did have an intellectual impact on the US in the last 50 years.

A little debate is good for the soul, and to my knowledge he never stooped for a blow below the belt.

Also I am not a political anything (my internship cured me of that, I swear I came home thinking I needed a bath). I want to be able to look myself in the mirror or my kids in the face, IMHO most politicians (not all) are not able to do so.

I like to watch politics unfold however, and this year for a change it looks like the good guys may win a big-un (bet Buckley would not like the way I used that last word).



:pals:
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elizfeelinggreat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 04:05 PM
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8. did you read the OP? Did you read my post carefully?
"conservatives see 20 minutes in that context and says "he must be amazingly smart to write a whole piece that complex in that time", where a liberal sees 20 minutes and says "yah that's about how long it should take to hack out that drivel."

I chose my side a long time ago. You know, even though I adore babies I wouldn't insist because a woman was capable of short labor that the baby is to be admired. You may be a fan of Buckley’s 20 minute articles, that’s okay with me.

If you want to be pals :pals: you'll have to do a little more than 20 minutes of research of your own, read my post in the spirit it was intended referring to the OP, and admit that his history includes plenty to criticize - not only because of what he said himself but what he openly condoned.

And in case no one here has posted this particular POS piece here yet, let's not forget Mr. Buckley's editorial titled "Why the South Must Prevail" which stated:

the white community is entitled because, for the time being, it is the advanced race and “it is more important for any community, anywhere in the world, to affirm and live by civilized standards than to bow to the demands of the numerical majority.”


Then you can look up Mr. Buckley's opinion of McCarthy. You're on your own after that and I don't care how many ways until Tuesday you might consider him a stand up guy, I will always consider him a promulgator of hate.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 12:27 PM
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2. yep
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 01:10 PM
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4. My take on the BUCKster solidified (as in Swampy's graphic, above) during the NIXON era
Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 01:12 PM by UTUSN
When it was plain to everybody except lunatic fringe wingnuts what a criminal piece of shit (sorry to be so repetitive in the imagery) Tricky the Dick was. So here would come BUCKed with a pretentious load of crap(!) laying out each criminal point, then twisting himself into pretzels to convince everybody that it really wasn't criminal at all. It was always the same excrement(! O.K., that completes the image!1).


P.S., LIMBOsevic just did a tribute to him. What's going on?!1 Did he die or something?!1
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 01:22 PM
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5. I liked the way he bulged his eyes when he thought he'd just said something brilliant.
Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 01:25 PM by Perry Logan
Buckley was the little boy who thought he had a brain.
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