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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 01:28 PM
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24 senators, mostly democrats, vote not to move the Feingold bill on Iraq to the floor
Obviously, the GOPers who pushed the bill will not vote for it, but it is sad to see so many Democrats, including Webb and Tester, be so afraid of being smeared in the media and not want to do the right thing.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00033

NAYs ---24
Barrasso (R-WY)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Conrad (D-ND)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Enzi (R-WY)
Hagel (R-NE)
Johnson (D-SD)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Salazar (D-CO)
Tester (D-MT)
Webb (D-VA)
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 01:30 PM
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1. Russ Feingold, a voice in the wilderness
Feingold has the luxury of being able to look at himself in the mirror each day and seeing the face of a decent and honorable man.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 01:32 PM
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2. yes and what a luxury that is
not many of our present day congresscritters can say that or it can be said of them by others
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 06:36 PM
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16. Indeed.
He's my hero. :patriot:
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 01:35 PM
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3. same puppets who voted immunity for telecoms
Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 01:39 PM by samplegirl
Bayh (D-IN)
Carper (D-DE)

Feinstein (D-CA)

Johnson (D-SD)

Landrieu (D-LA)

Lieberman (ID-CT)
McCaskill (D-MO)

Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)

Salazar (D-CO)

Webb (D-VA)
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 02:14 PM
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13. Feinstein did not
Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 02:21 PM by vpilot
vote for the actual FISA bill, however she did vote for cloture and against the Dodd Amendment to strip immunity from the bill. Here is a link to the vote on the actual bill. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00020
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 01:42 PM
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4. Why don't they all join Lieberman
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 01:45 PM
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5. traitors all . . . they don't represent the people, they represent the corporations . . .
and themselves . . . what a bunch of slugs . . .
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 02:11 PM
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12. I would love to be a fly on the wall in the Senate to hear
what they talk about certainly they don't talk about our welfare. That is for damn sure.
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abbeyco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 01:45 PM
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6. I could have guessed about Salazar
What a gutless punk-bastard he is - and my apologies to any punk-bastards out there.

I hope to hell we in Colorado can come up with a cure for craterin' Ken - he's an embarrassment to the state.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 01:46 PM
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7. I'm going to get lambasted for this.... but since when has that stopped me.
Now's not the right time for this stuff.

Political realism: stunts like this only make it more and more likely that we'll lose the general.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 06:37 PM
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17. You think debating the war is a stunt?
:\
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 01:52 PM
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8. As usual, Lincoln and Pryor come down on the wrong side
sometimes I wonder why they have a D after their names.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 01:59 PM
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9. I'm not surprised about those DINOS on the list.
But I am very disappointed in Senator Biden.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 02:05 PM
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10. they're tools of the MIC and they are hurting America just as much as republicans....
eom
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 02:10 PM
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11. now wait a minute
why is Biden on that list, and my Senator from RI Reed, these guys are killing this bill?
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 03:03 PM
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14. yep and there is Bill Nelson FL, the dinoest of the dinos
He quit answering my emails and letters when he folded the last time.

I've told him I would work to see him lose the next time.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 06:32 PM
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15. Email from Feingold today - Sign the petition
Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 06:35 PM by PeaceNikki
Dear PeaceNikki,

You may have heard that after months of filibustering the Senate agreed yesterday, on a 70-24 vote, to have a debate on the Feingold-Reid bill which uses Congress's "power of the purse" to safely redeploy our troops out of Iraq. Now to be clear, Republicans agreed to have this debate because they're under the false impression that Democrats may be embarrassed to debate the war in Iraq.
I disagree, and so do the vast majority of the American people.

http://ga1.org/campaign/iraq0208/868buekrowdd78t?source=web_iraq0208a">Add your name to thousands of others, and get your friends and family to join us in supporting Feingold-Reid.

I'm pleased the Senate has decided to address Iraq and how our continued military involvement there is distracting us from defeating the global terrorist threat from al Qaeda and its affiliates. But according to at least one news report this morning, some senators, even Democratic senators, don't agree.

According to the story, one senator has called the Iraq debate "a waste of time." Another called the debate a "diversion." Yet another said that Feingold-Reid was "too restrictive." And all of these are quotes from Democratic members.

http://ga1.org/campaign/iraq0208/868buekrowdd78t?source=web_iraq0208a">We must keep up the pressure - help push this issue forward.

The American people demand a debate, and thanks to your support, we've moved the ball a long way since first introducing this legislation last year. We must continue to work together in our combined effort to end one of the biggest mistakes in our country's history.

There will now be up to 30 hours of debate on this bill and it's up to each and every one of us to make sure Republicans and Democrats in the Senate feel the heat.

http://ga1.org/campaign/iraq0208/868buekrowdd78t?source=web_iraq0208a">Add your name to thousands of others, and get your friends and family to join us in supporting Feingold-Reid.

Thanks again for your continued support.

Sincerely,

Russ Feingold
United States Senator
Honorary Chair, Progressive Patriots Fund

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 06:42 PM
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18. Republicans are GOOD.. you have to give them that..
They don't want the debate, and they know *² will veto it anyway...so they instead plan to use a debate as a way to trumpet their "success" in the war, so naturally the dems now table the debate so they won't have to give republicans their platform to bloviate..

So NOW republicans claim they "wanted to debate Iraq, but democrats don't care enough about the war to even talk about it..:eyes:

Republicans have two books to live by..The Bible & Uncle Remus..but they have worn out the chapter about the briar patch..

Perhaps we should send every democratic senator a copy of the book..


from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncle_Remus

Br'er Rabbit ("Brother Rabbit") is the main character of the stories, a likable trickster prone to getting into trouble who is often opposed by Br'er Fox and Br'er Bear. In one tale, Br'er Fox constructs a lump of tar and puts clothing on it. When Br'er Rabbit comes along he addresses the "tar baby" amiably, but receives no response. Br'er Rabbit becomes offended by what he perceives as Tar Baby's lack of manners, kicks it, and becomes stuck. Now that Br'er Rabbit is stuck, Fox ponders how to dispose of him. The helpless, but cunning, Br'er Rabbit pleads, "Please don't throw me in the briar patch," prompting Fox to do exactly that. As rabbits are at home in thickets, the resourceful Br'er Rabbit escapes. Using the phrases "please don't throw me in the briar patch" and "tar baby" to refer to the idea of "a problem that gets worse the more one struggles against it" became part of the wider culture of the United States in the mid-20th century.

snip..
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