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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 07:15 PM
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"Everyone detected with AIDS should be tattooed in the upper forearm"... William F. Buckley, Jr
William F. Buckley, Jr., Kicks The Bucket At Age 82

http://freeinternetpress.com/story.php?sid=15491

William F. Buckley, Jr., who marshaled polysyllabic exuberance, famously arched eyebrows and a refined, perspicacious mind to elevate conservatism to the center of American political discourse, died Wednesday at his home in Stamford, Connecticut.

Mr. Buckley, 82, suffered from diabetes and emphysema, his son Christopher said, although the exact cause of death was not immediately known. He was found at his desk in the study of his home, his son said. “He might have been working on a column,” said Christopher Buckley.

Mr. Buckley’s winningly capricious personality, replete with ten-dollar words and a darting tongue writers loved to compare with an anteater’s, hosted one of television’s longest-running programs, “Firing Line,” and founded and shepherded the influential conservative magazine, “National Review.”

He also found time to write at least 55 books, ranging from sailing odysseys to spy novels to celebrations of his own dashing daily life, and to edit five more. His political novel “The Rake” was published last August, and a book looking back at the National Review’s history in November; a personal memoir of Barry Goldwater is due to be publication in April, and Mr. Buckley was working on a similar book about Ronald Reagan for release in the fall.

The more than 4.5 million words of his 5,600 biweekly newspaper columns, “On the Right,” would fill 45 more medium-sized books.

Mr. Buckley’s greatest achievement was making conservatism - not just electoral Republicanism, but conservatism as a system of ideas - respectable in liberal post-World War II America. He mobilized the young enthusiasts who helped nominate Barry Goldwater in 1964, and saw his dreams fulfilled when Reagan and the Bushes captured the Oval Office.

To Mr. Buckley’s enormous delight, Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr., the historian, termed him “the scourge of liberalism.”

In remarks at National Review’s 30th anniversary in 1985, President Reagan joked that he picked up his first issue of the magazine in a plain brown wrapper and still anxiously awaited his biweekly edition - “without the wrapper.”

“You didn’t just part the Red Sea - you rolled it back, dried it up and left exposed, for all the world to see, the naked desert that is statism,” said Mr. Reagan.

“And then, as if that weren’t enough,” the president continued, “you gave the world something different, something in its weariness it desperately needed, the sound of laughter and the sight of the rich, green uplands of freedom.”

The liberal advance had begun with the New Deal, and so accelerated in the next generation that Lionel Trilling, one of America’s leading intellectuals, wrote in 1950: “In the United States at this time liberalism is not only the dominant but even the sole intellectual tradition. For it is the plain fact that there are no conservative or reactionary ideas in general circulation.”

Mr. Buckley declared war on this liberal order, beginning with his blistering assault on Yale as a traitorous den of atheistic collectivism immediately after his graduation (with honors) from the university.

More....


The Truth About Reagan And AIDS, by Michael Bronski
http://www.actupny.org/reports/reagan.html
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 07:17 PM
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1. what a great guy....
:eyes:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 07:18 PM
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2. God...I'd forgotten about that truly heinous comment about people with AIDS.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 07:27 PM
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10. And the comment about tatoo's on gays asses!
Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 07:27 PM by Breeze54
What a fuckwad!
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 07:19 PM
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3. Pull your hand out of a bucket of water
See what impact it has on the water.

None.

That's Buckley's great contribution.

Elitist dilettante.
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:19 PM
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17. Elitist, sure.
But a dilettante? Are you kidding?

http://www.newsprism.wordpress.com">Newsprism
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:44 PM
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36. I choose my words carefully
And I'm not kidding.

What discernible difference to political discourse has Buckley contributed, except excessively verbose snarkiness?

He was a political spectator, throwing bombs safely from the fringe.
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:51 PM
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46. For one thing, he was an iconoclast of leftist vapidity
Like him or not, the man had principles, and even here at DU there seem to be many who admire him.

And I don't mean to imply that leftism is vapid per se, but I did live through the sixties...

http://newsprism.wordpress.com">Newsprism

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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:59 PM
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55. So transparent
Go away.

FR misses you.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:03 PM
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:39 PM
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You must be REALLY crazy if they banned you.
Waxing nostalgic about a right wing hate monger is not exactly the best way to kick start many friendships here at DU. That much I know for sure.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 04:22 PM
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87. Sounds like 99% of the people I know...
"He was a political spectator, throwing bombs safely from the fringe."


Sounds like 99% of the people I know... and people in general.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 07:19 PM
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4. Good riddance.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 07:24 PM
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9. Did he realize how truly hateful that comment was?
Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 07:27 PM by terrya
Besides the general idea of wanting to do this. Um, hello, asshole? Ever hear of a place called Dachau?
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 04:32 PM
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89. Probably not.
Probably not. Heck, I was both a racist and homophobic in 1985 and would have been appalled if anyone called me hateful, as I honestly believed I was the nicest guy in the world.

We all think that we're individual paragons of morality and virtue. Then we learn a little more about life, realize how incredibly wrong we were, rewrite our moral codes, and once again, we become an individual paragon of morality and virtue.
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:21 PM
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18. Bluebear, we meet again
And you still have a cold, cold heart that pretends to be "liberal."

It's bad enough to kick a man when he's down, but when he's dead?

http://www.newsprism.wordpress.com">Newsprism
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:27 PM
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21. Oh piss off.
Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 08:31 PM by Bluebear
Cold heart my ass. Go reread Buckley's ideas for HIV patients and write another tribute. You are disgusting.
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:37 PM
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26. Your class is showing
You remind me of school at 3am.

No class.

~(8^)}>
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:38 PM
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29. Is that a sample of your intellectual writing? Don't quit your day job.
Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 08:40 PM by Bluebear
I don't suffer conservative gay-bashing apologists lightly.
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:45 PM
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38. No, my intellectual writing is published in academic journals
But they're so damned boring you wouldn't believe it.

http://www.newsprism.wordpress.com">Newsprism
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:46 PM
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40. I'd believe it.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:49 PM
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43. On the other hand, these are the internets.
Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 08:50 PM by terrya
Hell, I could say that I have an IQ of 161, that I'm International Male handsome, 6'3", 215 muscled pounds with a 10" dick. That doesn't make it true. :-)
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:41 PM
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72. Same as a fired professor
No class.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:31 PM
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23. Please forgive us for our sins.
But maybe one day you'll come over to the dark side and join us in our lack of empathy when someone who has caused the deaths of countless LGBT Americans finally leaves this mortal coil.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:34 PM
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24. Kicking a rich, elitist, ultra right wing homophobic asshole.
Fuck it, I'm glad he's dead. One less homophobe.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:35 PM
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25. Oooh careful, he'll call you out too.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:38 PM
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27. Oh, dear. Someone is in the wrong website again.
I HATE when that happens. :-(
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:41 PM
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31. It's the New DU.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:42 PM
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32. Yes. One can see that especially in GDP.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:43 PM
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34. Gay-bashing is tolerated, calling out long-time members tolerated...
waxing ineloquently about dead conservatives is tolerated. I don't recognize us anymore.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:44 PM
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35. Neither do I.
It is sad.
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:56 PM
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52. In other words, you can't tolerate ideological tolerance. That's your logic?? n/t
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:06 PM
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59. I think he's saying he can't tolerate (and neither can I)
snarky, RW, trouble makers; such as yourself.

Is that clear enough?

And you claim to be intelligent? Who knew.
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:10 PM
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60. Well, I can tolerate snarky, LW troublemakers. Some of my best friends are...
Besides, I never claimed to be intelligent. Maybe your insecurity is showing?
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:26 PM
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65. Not at all, honey.
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:38 PM
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28. No, it's too much fun watching you get all pissy
Piss away, BB.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:40 PM
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30. Conservatives do like sitting at the sidelines laughing at people. I get it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:43 PM
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:45 PM
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37. At least most of us are all on the same page. n/t
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:45 PM
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39. I can only imagine he thinks gay people are unbalanced.
He is a Buckley fan, who knows?
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:48 PM
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42. After all, it is a psychological disorder.
Oh, wait...that was sooo last millennium.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:51 PM
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44. One can hear the faint echoes of a...say....Donnie McClurkin.
Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 08:51 PM by terrya
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:54 PM
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49. I think I've just found a new calling:
Branding all the ex-gays with an ass tattoo.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:57 PM
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No objections from me on that.
Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 08:58 PM by terrya
You'd have to stifle some vomiting on seeing those asses, but that sounds like a fine calling.

:thumbsup:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:51 PM
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45. But if you pine for Buckley, your intellectual growth stopped in 1956.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:56 PM
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51. That's what's so fucked up about conservatives.
Their fear of change.

Funny how the conservative movement/Christian Right rose to power hand in hand with Islamic fundamentalists.
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #45
54. Five years before I was born?
Fancy trick, that.

Besides, I don't think intellectual growth is subject to the rules of fashion. Mark Twain and Thoreau are my heroes, and they wrote in the fifties. (1850s.)
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 11:42 PM
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84. I love you guys, you know that?
:loveya: :rofl:
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:48 PM
Response to Reply #37
41. You make an assumption about me, I think...check this out:
I'm being prickly tonight, I admit...but when people trash the dead, someone's gotta fight back.

http://www.prestoncoleman.com/elmofrumpkin.htm">Biracial gay couple in Babylon???
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:53 PM
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48. Who's trashing?
Many of us are simply putting his vitriol into historical context and how much damage he has inflicted on the LGBT community. Especially since there always seems to be some revisionism when these pricks pass away.

Sorry, but when there appears to be a "he wasn't that bad of a guy", I must take umbrage.
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:55 PM
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50. I can appreciate that...but please, you know who's trashing! n/t
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:57 PM
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53. Saying "good riddance" is not trashing.
Which was what initially set you off on this bizarre rant.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #53
56. My "cold, cold heart"....the Bluebears of the world
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2931725&mesg_id=2932603

You would think that I urged his body to be dragged through West Hollywood on the back bumper of a Cadillac, ferchrissakes.
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #56
58. Been there, done that. No one in WHolly even noticed. n/t
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:19 PM
Response to Reply #56
62. Apparently, you're now an icon.
Maybe we can channel "Bluebear" into being "Dixie Chicked"!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:20 PM
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63. Grand, just what I always wanted lol
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #56
73. Did You Ever Notice
...that the ones with the quickest answers to being told to "Piss Off" are the ones who've probably been told it most often?

Personally, I wouldn't want to be as dependent on the contempt of those with whom I disagreed as this fellow seems to.





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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:37 PM
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69. You're defending a dirt-bag like Buckley?
I'm certainly not one to dance on graves or be happy over a death. Nonetheless I will not mourn the death of any hateful prat, such as this one.

And if that, in your eyes, makes me "not a Liberal", then so be it.


As to Bluebear I am proud to call him a friend.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:39 PM
Response to Reply #69
71. Thank you, my friend.
:hug:
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #69
74. Agreed.
Funny how the littlest bit of contrariness automatically means we're "dancing on" someone's grave.

Merely pointing out the hateful and hurtful statements one has said means we're being disrespectful. WTF is up with that?
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:59 PM
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77. Picking a fight to pad the post count, I see.
:eyes:

You're just so brilliant, I can't stand it.

Another example of homophobic bullshit. Bravo. :puke:
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 10:46 PM
Response to Reply #18
81. Clean up on aisle 3: agent provocateur
What an amateur.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:50 AM
Response to Reply #81
86. lol.
You'd think they'd know how to better play this game by now.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #18
90. How would a dead man take offense?
How would a dead man take offense at being kicked?
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:22 PM
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19. To bad rubbish. nm
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 07:19 PM
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5. And Some Bitch about Showing This Guy Respect
fuck him... he will get no such thing from this liberal.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 07:19 PM
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6. Ugh. What can I say about this. NT
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 07:19 PM
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7. 55 books and still has no relevance..
I am sure he did it all for the Vatter Reich!
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elizfeelinggreat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 07:23 PM
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8. It's important to remember him truthfully ...
Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 07:25 PM by elizfeelinggreat
(edited to hastily add: remember him truthfully as the hate spreader he was!)

Some more from another voice on why they love him (from the President of the Heritage Foundation, written in 2000):
...

Buckley was first in many areas and inspired a generation – my generation – to follow in his footsteps. Thanks to Buckley, who in 1955, when he introduced National Review, showed America there was a market for thoughtful conservative ideas, we now have a lively array of policy journals, from The American Spectator and The Weekly Standard to National Interest, Public Interest, and our own Policy Review.

Similarly, Buckley's TV show "Firing Line" showed there was a place on television for lively political talk, a lesson well understood today by Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly and Tony Snow, and MSNBC's Chris Matthews. In short, Buckley played hardball when Matthews was still playing kickball.
...
Asked why Attorney General Robert Kennedy rejected several invitations to be on "Firing Line," Buckley quipped: "Why does baloney reject the grinder?"




from William F. Buckley Jr.:An Appreciation

by Edwin J. Feulner, Ph.D.

http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed080900.cfm
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 07:30 PM
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12. 'thoughtful conservative ideas' - like branding AIDS victims. May he rot.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 07:58 PM
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15. Are Neo-Cons one of his legacies?
"Buckley was first in many areas and inspired a generation" of assholes!

Is he the reason they were formed and reared their ugly heads? Seems so...
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elizfeelinggreat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:29 PM
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66. he inspired W !
October 6, 2005

President Honors Buckley at 50th Anniversary of National Review
Eisenhower Executive Office Building
Room 450

THE PRESIDENT: Thanks. I'm here to escort William F. Buckley, Jr., to lunch. (Laughter.) But first I've got some things I want to say. It's a honor to celebrate the 50th anniversary of National Review, and soon to be the 80th birthday of our honoree. You probably think this is a -- the Yale Scholars Association meeting. (Laughter.) Actually, Bill Buckley did have an influence on me when I followed him at Yale. You might remember one of his famous quotes, "The job of conservatives was to stand athwart history, yelling, stop." That's the approach I took to most of my classes. (Laughter.)


I also do want to throw a little bouquet to him, and let him know that all I've learned about the English language -- (laughter) -- at any rate, it's good to welcome the Buckley family. Thank you all for coming. It's such an honor to have you all here. You've got a great family, and you're a family of public service and a family that has stood strong for what you believe, without wavering. I appreciate Dr. Kissinger, and Dusty Rhodes and Ed Capano, as well. It's good to see you all.

...
The most important thing he did was to contribute to the realm of ideas for America. He was an entrepreneur. He kind of gathered up some dreamers and decided to do something. A lot of times dreamers don't do anything, they just sit there and dream. He decided to do something, and he formed a magazine that helped move conservatism from the margins of American society into the Oval Office. That's a significant contribution.

The amazing thing is, is that sometimes it's hard to be a leader because you hear all kinds of voices. He's certainly heard different voices when he formed the National Review. He had an eclectic group of people. That's a Yale word. (Laughter.) He had voices that included ex-communists who knew better than most the threat posed to America by the Soviet Union. He had voices such as free marketers who knew that markets could deliver better results than bureaucracies. He had voices from the traditionalists who understood that a government by -- of and by and for the people could not stand unless it stood on moral ground. They all different -- represented a different strand of conservative thought. Yet, when they came together under the conductor's baton, they made beautiful music. Congratulations for being a leader. (Applause.)

I'm sure it's hard for some of the youngsters -- unfortunately, that doesn't include me anymore -- (laughter) -- to imagine the day when the only conservative game in Washington, D.C. was Bill Buckley and the National Review. And today, we've got, of course, an abundance of conservative columnists and radio hosts and television shows and think tanks and all kinds of organizations. I guess in an intellectual sense, you could say these are all Bill's children. ...
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Many of the more important changes of the 20th century happened because the National Review stood strong, and that's a fact -- that's a fact of history.
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It is an honor to be here to thank you for your service. I want to thank you for leaving us a magazine and a group of thinkers that will help make the advance of liberty over the last 50 years look like a dress rehearsal for the next 50 years.

May God bless the Buckley family. Thank you for coming. (Applause.)


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/10/20051006-4.html

AND W honors the whole BUCKLEY FAMILY!

from Nov. 16, 1981:

In a consent decree filed in a federal district court in Washington, D.C., officers of the Buckley firms neither denied nor admitted having violated securities laws. But they did agree not to do in the future what the SEC contends they had done in the past. They also agreed to reimburse parties who the SEC claims had been defrauded or misled and relinquished oil and gas royalties that were deemed excessive. The cost will be about $800,000, an amount viewed by some experts on securities investigations as a mere slap on the wrist.

The most illustrious Buckleys were not named in the 43-page civil complaint. William F. Buckley Jr., 55, while profiting as a shareholder in the family enterprises, was not an officer of any of the involved corporations. The erudite TV interviewer, columnist and editor of the National Review had been accused of civil fraud by the SEC in a wholly separate action in 1979 and, without conceding any culpability, had agreed not to act as an officer or director of any public corporation for five years. Also unnamed was James Buckley, 58, the former New York Senator, now Under Secretary of State for Security Assistance. Although he had been active in the family businesses at the time some of the alleged violations occurred, he had severed his formal business relationships while holding public office. He is a defendant, however, in multimillion-dollar civil suits by shareholders who say they were defrauded.

The relatively unknown John Buckley, 61, the eldest brother of William and James, is one of three Buckley business associates cited in the complaint. John has devoted his career to carrying on the enterprises that grew out of the lucrative Venezuelan oil ventures of the family patriarch, William Sr., who died in 1958. Also cited by the SEC were Benjamin Heath, 67, widower of one of the elder Buckley's daughters, and C. Dean Reasoner, a Washington lawyer who had long helped manage the Buckley businesses.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,953171,00.html
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:38 PM
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70. "these are all Bill's children." .... 'Nuff said.
:puke:

Thanks. :hi:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:32 PM
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68. It is important to remember him truthfully. He was a bigot who spoke English. n/t
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 07:28 PM
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11. Everyone who agrees with that bullshit should
Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 07:29 PM by Jamastiene
be branded with a hot poker on the forehead with the word, "ASSHOLE." 'Nuff said. What a fucking asshole?
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momster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 07:33 PM
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13. I'm Kinda Sorry For Him
Before he died, he saw the destruction of his entire philosophy, thanks to the complete implementation of conservative ideas with this administration. Everything he'd worked for and believed has been proven an utter failure. He couldn't say it hadn't been given a fair try, since a goodly chunk of the last 30 yrs has been driven by his vision. His life has no meaning now...except maybe for the sailing thing.
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 07:34 PM
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14. I'm glad the guy is dead.
but i wish all republicans the same sense to communicate.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:15 PM
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16. Buckley was all over the place with his opinions.
He thought marijuana should be legalized. So did Barry Goldwater. Buckley is considered to have promoted the conservative political concept of individualism as opposed to state mandated precepts. He was opposed to desegregation but eventually changed his mind.
I have a family member that is a stance Republican that could not stand Buckley.
Thank God I'm a Democrat. :dem:
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:24 PM
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20. This man had major issues with gay people.
“Now listen, you queer, stop calling me a crypto-Nazi or I will sock you in your goddamn face, and you will stay plastered.”

Said to Gore Vidal, during a televised debate.

This guy was a real class act.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:28 PM
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22. But, as usual, it's US who have the problem.
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:50 PM
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75. I Loved Gore Vidal's Response To That
It was a delightedly entertained laugh, right in Buckley's face.


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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:55 PM
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76. I've admired Gore Vidal for quite some time.
Can't say I've ever admired Mr. Buckley. The only response he's ever elicited in me is disgust. I can't even begin to understand how this man is garnering any respect from progressives, especially around DU.
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 10:43 PM
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80. Great Writer, Vidal
Way better than Buckley.

I will say this for Buckley: he did give the impression of having principles, however misguided, & of having sufficient self-respect to stick to them. This is more than one can say for many of today's pundits.


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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 11:04 PM
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82. Very interesting observations.
It made me think of this:

Which one came first?

An uninformed public?

Or a bloviating conservative pundit?

Discuss...
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 11:29 PM
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83. Nor can I.
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Mark Twain Girl Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:51 PM
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47. Oh damn, that's sick sick sick.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:15 PM
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61. Who?
A true nobody.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:24 PM
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64. Buckley being featured on Mike Malloy right now...
Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 09:25 PM by Breeze54
Mike's laughing his ass off! :P You might enjoy this!

http://www.novamradio.com/index.php?pid=30
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:29 PM
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67. True progressives and leftists
Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 09:30 PM by JackBeck
recognize the amount of damage this man's rhetoric has inflicted upon this country.

Thanks for the heads-up, Breeze54, unfortunately, not able to tune into Malloy this evening. Will try to download the podcast tomorrow.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 10:02 PM
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78. He was an ASSHOLE FOREVER!!!1 nt/
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 10:33 PM
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79. You've got that right!
He sucked!
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:53 AM
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85. He NEVER recanted his tattoo idea (he reiterates it here)!
...“Gay men should not have the right to spread a debilitating and often fatal disease. A person who is HIV-positive has no more right to unprotected intercourse than he has the right to put a bullet through another person’s head.”

Public heath officials are considering measures which, 20 years ago, would have been though fascistic interventions in human rights. There is thought of infiltrating gay sites, particularly those on the Internet. What, having identified such sites, will they then do? Interpose a message about the danger of unprotected sex? Collect names and email addresses, and send individual warnings to prospective victims? Such measures are not easily composed: “Dear Sir: You have recently kept company with Tony Venenum. Tony has a new and dangerous strain of AIDS and you may have contracted it. You should report to a doctor and you must not engage in unprotected sex because in doing so you may be committing murder.” The boundaries of the new campaign, let alone the niceties, haven’t been resolved upon, but not much thought is being given to concerns of privacy. Murderers need to be stopped, and if this means opening their mail, well — such things happen and you can take comfort that you may be saving a life.

The objective is to identify the carrier, and to warn his victim. Someone, 20 years ago, suggested a discreet tattoo the site of which would alert the prospective partner to the danger of proceeding as had been planned. But the author of the idea was treated as though he had been schooled in Buchenwald, and the idea was not widely considered, but maybe it is up now for reconsideration... http://www.nationalreview.com/buckley/wfb200502191155.asp
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 04:26 PM
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88. I can't say anything nice about him... so I won't say anything.. HOWEVER...
Thank you for posting this, Breeze54.


I hope he burns in hell (oops, I guess I did say something!)
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 04:43 PM
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91. Looks like I need a gallon of water to piss on that grave.
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