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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:57 AM
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Wired publishes new photographs of Abu Ghraib-Graphic Images Warning
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Wired_publishes_new_disturbing_photographs_of_0228.html

The following images, published today at Wired.com, have been compiled so viewers can see them in their entirety without having to reload pages. Wired obtained them from an expert defense witness in the Abu Ghraib case, psychologist Philip Zimbardo.

Zimbardo speaks tomorrow at a conference, delivering a talk that reflects on his book, "The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil."

In their publication, the magazine wrote, "Many of the images are explicit and gruesome, depicting nudity, degradation, simulated sex acts and guards posing with decaying corpses. Viewer discretion is advised."

Perhaps the most comprehensive multimedia compilation of images from the troubled US prison in Iraq is available at Salon.com, which published 279 photos and 19 videos in 2006.

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:00 AM
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1. ...........
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 10:05 AM by alyce douglas
now we noted for torture camps and pre emptive wars, god, it's sickening.

what is being done to these people should be done to those who are doing it and ordering it.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:00 AM
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2. oh look, pictures
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 10:56 AM by DS1
jesus, lighten up.

yes, that's some twisted stuff, and the sick bastards need to be thrown in Leavenworth
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:05 AM
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3. How about more rec and less snark?
NGU.


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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:15 AM
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5. Steeler and Yankee fans
Fuck You
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:43 AM
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7. Lay off the Steeler fans
I'm one and I certainly don't condone this.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:53 AM
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10. What's wrong with Steelers fans?
and THAT'S coming from a Browns fan!
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:39 PM
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14. No, there's a need for a present-day series of Nuremberg trials for war crimes.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 01:14 PM
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17. Yeah . . . Cheney and Bush . . . Leavenworth --- !!!
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:10 AM
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4. I'm not sure I understand the point
If all of a sudden new pictures from Auschwitz were discovered, would everyone jump to look at them? Would your opinion of that regime change? Mine wouldn't.

I think Abu Ghraib was disgusting, how's celebrating new found pictures going to change that? I have no need to keep looking at the car crash.

Enjoy!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:52 AM
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9. since every republican i know in this area DENIES any thought of torture
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 10:52 AM by seabeyond
maybe we need to get it out not only on the net but much further. how manipulative of the argument you are to suggest this disgust is a celebration. how about fuckin INFORMED

people pretended auschwitz didnt happen either and needed the pictures to believe and today there are those saying photos fabricated so they dont have to believe
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 11:01 AM
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12. "celebrating?"
What in the world are you talking about?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 01:17 PM
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18. Celebrating new pictures . . . ????
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 01:17 PM by defendandprotect
More than a year ago, a Judge AGAIN demanded that the films/photos of rapes and other abuse
be released . . .

We still don't have them ---

EVERY individual who was harmed by us deserves to have us witness this brutality and TORTURE ---

No one can say we "didn't know" ---

no one should be able to say that ---

And this should serve as greater imperative to make sure that TORTURE is stopped ---
and that the people who brought us TORTURE are stopped!!


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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 02:44 PM
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20. If we did it, we own it. Every tormented soul deserves to be stared
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 02:45 PM by roguevalley
at so that they don't just become some cypher in some folder somewhere. We did it, we need it out there. Looking at it may be the only justice these people get.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:19 AM
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6. Yawn...
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 10:19 AM by Bigmack
Who cares... more pics of "fraternity hazing". Seen it before. Besides, that war is over, isn't it? The surge worked and the war is over. Why bring up old, unpleasant things?

What's on "Idol"? Now that's what I want to know.

(I'm bouncing back and forth between :sarcasm: and :grr:
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:48 AM
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8. I don't get it. They don't seem new at all. There is Grainer, the iconic picture of a wired
prisoner, why is this new?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:59 AM
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11. Only two of them look new to me. I've seen the others.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:53 PM
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16. You're correct
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 12:54 PM by Solly Mack
I'm disgusted by the actions at Abu Ghraib as always.... and now also by the fact that people don't remember which pictures from Abu Ghraib have already been shown.

Were people not paying attention when they first came out? Did they just forget? (and how does a person forget such pictures?) And what does that say? That such images could just be forgotten so that when enough time goes by people think they are "new" when the same pictures are shown again?...and then the same pictures can be shown over and over again...be called "new" and since few remember, claims can be made that all the pictures came out (when they have not) and those that don't remember will never know the difference. :(

It just makes me very sad that people forget :(





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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:29 PM
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13. Unfortunately, torture is not a new phenomenon
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 12:34 PM by formercia
A fellow officer who had been assigned to Latin America during Plan Condor told me about attending the interrogation of a suspected Cuban agent. The agent was hung upside down with his head in a metal bucket full of water, then a 220V line was attached to his genitals and the bucket. It's pretty hard holding your breath while being electrocuted. Water boarding is tame by comparison. The alleged agent was later put on a flight to Cuba in a prisoner exchange. He left confined to a wheel chair.

This type of behavior is standard operating procedure under command of the Bushes. Junior learned it from his daddy.
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:41 PM
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15. What does that have to do with selling tech crap?
Wired is primarily about selling the latest computers and gizmos to rich yuppies and executives. And also blinding readers with its overuse of fluorescent inks on its pages, making it impossible to read. Why should they care about non-Windows-based life forms?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 01:20 PM
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19. These are all phney pics! We don't torture! When are you going to get that through your head!
:sarcasm: And global warming is due to solar flares!
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