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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 04:38 PM
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did Bush get the phone companies spying on us before 9/11? if so please provide a link
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 04:39 PM by ORDagnabbit
getting ready to call my piece of crap senator and would like some evidence.

thanks


senator gordon smith....that piece of crap
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 04:40 PM
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1. Wyden Is My Only Senator!!!
:hi:

Hello fellow Oregonian
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 04:41 PM
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2. It came up in the Qwest/Nacchio trial...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 04:42 PM
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3. Here you go:
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 04:48 PM
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8. and yet the GoP Media Establishment pretends that it was a post-9/11 imperative that legitimizes
calls for retroactive immunity
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 04:43 PM
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4. Here's a bit on it from Truthout.
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/48/16920

He did authorize Domestic Spying early in 2001.
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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 04:44 PM
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5. Yes
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/14/business/14qwest.html

Former Phone Chief Says Spy Agency Sought Surveillance Help Before 9/11

The phone company Qwest Communications refused a proposal from the National Security Agency that the company’s lawyers considered illegal in February 2001, nearly seven months before the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, the former head of the company contends in newly unsealed court filings.

But the documents unsealed Wednesday in federal court in Denver, first reported in The Rocky Mountain News on Thursday, claim for the first time that pressure on the company to participate in activities it saw as improper came as early as February, nearly seven months before the terrorist attacks.

(more at link)
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 04:44 PM
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6. deleted
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 04:45 PM by vpilot
Someone already posted a link.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 04:47 PM
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7. ATT started in Feb. 2001
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 05:53 PM
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10. I wonder why every fricken democrat isnt saying "you spied on us before 9/11" so your excuse is bunk
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 05:56 PM
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11. Because some of the Dems are Dirty.
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 06:54 PM
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12. wow! n/t
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paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 05:00 PM
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9. Yes!
Lots here:

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=civilliberties&civilliberties_surveillance=civilliberties_nsa_wiretapping

Scroll down to the start of 2001. There's so much that even most people at DU don't know. Here's a sample:

Spring 2001: New Bush Administration Policy Allows NSA to Illegally Spy on US Citizens

The National Security Agency (NSA) engages in apparently illegal surveillance of US citizens beginning shortly after the inauguration of George W. Bush as president. This will not be revealed to the public until media reports in January 2006, a month after the press revealed that the NSA had engaged in similar illegal wiretaps and surveillance of American citizens after the 9/11 attacks, using those attacks as justification for the surveillance (see December 15, 2005). The former NSA and counterterrorism officials who reveal the pre-9/11 spying will claim that the wiretaps, e-mail monitoring, and Internet surveillance were all “inadvertent,” as NSA computers “unintentionally” intercepted US citizens’ international phone calls and e-mails when the computers flagged keywords. NSA protocol demands that such “inadvertent” surveillance end as soon as NSA analysts realize they are spying on those citizens, and the names of the monitored citizens are supposed to be deleted from the NSA databases. Instead, the NSA is instructed to continue monitoring some citizens that are characterized as “of interest” to White House officials. Those officials include President Bush, Vice President Cheney, and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, say the former NSA and counterterrorism officials. In December 2000, the NSA told the incoming Bush administration that some US citizens are being inadvertently targeted for surveillance, but the names of the citizens are deleted because the law expressly prohibits the NSA from spying on US citizens, US corporations, or even permanent US residents (see December 2000). However, once Bush takes office in January 2001, that practice undergoes a radical change. In the first few months of the administration, President Bush assigns Vice President Cheney to make himself more of a presence at the various US intelligence agencies, particularly the CIA, NSA, and DIA. Cheney, along with other officials at the State and Defense Departments, begins making repeated requests to the NSA to reveal the identities of those Americans which had previously been deleted, so that administration officials can more fully understand the context and scope of the intelligence. Such requests are technically legal. But Cheney goes well beyond the law when he requests, as he frequently does, that the NSA continue monitoring specific Americans already caught up in the NSA’s wiretaps and electronic surveillance. A former White House counterterrorism official will later claim that Cheney advised Bush of what he was learning from the NSA. “What’s really disturbing is that some of those people the vice president was curious about were people who worked at the White House or the State Department,” says another former counterterrorism official. “There was a real feeling of paranoia that permeated from the vice president’s office and I don’t think it had anything to do with the threat of terrorism. I can’t say what was contained in those taps that piqued his interest. I just don’t know.” (Truthout (.org), 1/17/2006)
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