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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 06:37 PM
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The Dean Legacy
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On November 7, 2006, all the top Democrats graced the stage of the Hyatt Regency ballroom in Washington for a big election-night victory party. All of them, that is, except Howard Dean, chair of the Democratic National Committee (DNC). The party leadership had accused Dean of spending too much money on rebuilding moribund parties in red states and not enough on key Congressional races where Democratic pickups could strengthen their narrow majority. The results that night, as Democrats recaptured Congress, seemed to settle the argument in Dean's favor. But key Democrats, including Representative Rahm Emanuel, a former senior adviser to President Clinton, weren't satisfied, and Dean opted to stay away from the celebration, doing TV interviews instead. A week later, Democratic strategist James Carville, another prominent Clintonite, labeled the DNC leadership "Rumsfeldian in its competence," and called on Dean to resign. He floated the name of Harold Ford Jr., now chair of the right-leaning Democratic Leadership Council, as a replacement. There was rampant speculation inside the Beltway that Carville wasn't offering an unsolicited opinion but rather carrying water for the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, Hillary Clinton.

A few months earlier, The New Republic had reported that Clinton's camp was "laying the groundwork to circumvent the DNC in the event that Clinton wins the nomination." This shadow DNC had a number of integral parts: adviser Harold Ickes would develop state-of-the-art technology to help Clinton reach prospective voters; EMILY's List and Clinton's allies in organized labor would launch an unprecedented effort to turn out supporters, especially women voters; former DNC chair Terry McAuliffe would raise untold sums from wealthy donors and the business community; and communications honcho Howard Wolfson would direct an unrelenting war room. Ever since 1992 the Clintons had used the DNC as an outpost for raising money from big donors, and funding candidates had taken precedence over nurturing progressive organizers. That model would continue into '08. Dean could remain at the DNC as a figurehead but only if he stayed in line.

And then the effort to marginalize Dean collapsed. Partly it's because the party's Congressional takeover--and a subsequent study by Harvard's Elaine Kamarck documenting Dean's contributions toward that end--eventually silenced the Carville-ites. Partly it's because Barack Obama forced the Clintons to devote all their resources to fending off his insurgent candidacy. But another reason the DNC-in-exile never got off the ground was Dean himself. Dean is no longer a marginalized figure, the butt of "Dean scream" jokes, but a man with a powerful constituency in regions where his fifty-state strategy has energized aging, ailing or previously nonexistent state parties. His support to these parties has not only strengthened them but has created an independent power base for Dean himself.

Dean has remained fastidiously neutral and low-key in this presidential cycle. Yet a number of his top supporters believe the Clinton-Obama contest has become a referendum on the kind of grassroots party building and citizen empowerment Dean pioneered as a presidential candidate and continued as DNC chair. On that issue most Deaniacs, not surprisingly, side with Obama. "Ever since the TV era began in 1960, every single presidential campaign in America has been top-down," says Joe Trippi, Dean's '04 campaign guru and an adviser to John Edwards before he dropped out of the race. "Only two have been bottom-up. One was Dean. The other is Obama."

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080317/berman
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 06:47 PM
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1. For me, this is a very good reason for supporting Obama.
Dean has done more the the health of the Democratic party than any other figure in at least 30-40 years. To remove - or marginalize - him in favor of people like Carville and McAuliffe would be a long term disaster for progressive politics in this country. If we abandon the 50 state approach we will be looking at minorities in the congress and senate for the next generation.
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Califooyah Operative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:38 AM
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19. That's why this deaniac supports Obama! nt
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 06:49 PM
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2. I know a few Democrats who are buying the GOP meme
that only GOPers crossing party lines have been supporting Obama. They swear they won't vote for a candidate determined by the GOP. I tell them they're prize idiots for that and hope for the best.

Look folks, their numbers have been few and they've had a LOT of Democratic voters helping them.

In states where primaries have been closed, the split is right down the middle.

The DLC desire to oust Dean is one more reason I can't support Clinton at this time.

Both front runners are flawed. I'll vote for the winner and hope to be pleasantly surprised.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 06:52 PM
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3. Dean`s 50-state plan was brilliant.
He`s a treasure.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:00 PM
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4. Wow! Thank you for that article. It confirms what I thought about
Obama's campaign being all about a groundswell of
support from the PEOPLE!!

The author is wrong about ONE thing, though...

snip>Dean had the vision, but others will get or share the credit. It took an Obama to realize the potential of the Internet and grassroots organizing to transform politics. And it will take the commitment of future DNC chairs to the fifty-state strategy to continue building the party from the ground up. "You know the expression, to be a prophet without honor in your own land," says Steve Grossman, Dean's former campaign chair. "That's Howard Dean." <unsnip



Those of us who have been watching KNOW who has been working
to give voice to the people.

Howard Dean can live out his retirement in MY house if
he needs to, I will take care of him, he has given his
all to take care of our country.

He is a NORMAL guy, fighting the GOOD FIGHT, EVERYDAY,
against overwhelming odds, he keeps slugging away.

He is an inspiration to all.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:03 PM
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10. I agree w/everything you said
except...

Howard Dean can live out his retirement in MY house if
he needs to, I will take care of him, he has given his
all to take care of our country.


I put dibs on him back in 2003.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:05 PM
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12. Hey, I'm no MARTYR......
just let me know when you need a break!

:P
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:39 PM
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16. Roger Wilco!
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:12 PM
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5. Dean has been doing a fantastic job and it shows by voter turnout!
:woohoo: Dean Speaks for Me! :woohoo:

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:40 PM
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6. This needs a kick.
Glad to see some of this out in print now.
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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:44 PM
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7. K&R n/t
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musiclawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:44 PM
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8. I'm the only DUer I'm aware of who wrote a song for HD

http://johntitorensemble.com/song/11

Indeed, this article needs to be kicked far and wide
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 08:19 PM
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9. Kickety kick-kick, kick kick.
:kick::kick::kick:
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:04 PM
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11. Thanks for the article. It strengthens my support of Obama.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:06 PM
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13. I wrote my state party in support of Howard Dean after...
...the James Carville remark that Dean should be replaced, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:11 PM
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14. Kos is quoted in the article.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080317/berman/3

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Markos Moulitsas of Daily Kos dubbed Clinton's approach--and subsequent discounting of her losses in red America--the "insult 40 states" strategy.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:13 PM
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15. Yes.....Obama is my man. Carville was always a PRETEND democrat.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:15 PM
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27. Couldn't agree more strongly.
James Carville always gave me the impression that it's all about getting paid rather than any political philosophy. He does, and always has, given me the creeps to the point that he is a singular exception to "so ugly it's cute."

We can only hope that, with the next election and the exposure of the above mentioned actions against Howard Dean, the DNC and Democrats, in general, his household income will be slashed dramatically. With a change in the political culture, party balance/numbers and fewer DINOs, both he and his lovely wife may need to consider early retirement to wherever it is that worn out political whores end their days.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:47 PM
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17. This nation owes Howard Dean
a debt of gratitude for standing up for us when no one else was.

for denouncing the iraq war when it wasn't popular

for being the leader in getting the american people back involved in politics.

for truly standing up for the democratic wing of the democratic party and rather than working to split the party and call others "fake democrats," but going out and getting the REAL democrats: the american people.

I'm proud to say I supported howard dean and he leaves a void that no one could fill when he leaves the DNC Chairmanship.

one can look no further for a true american patriot than howard dean.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 11:53 PM
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18. Let's put our thinking caps on
Dean says that if a Democrat wins in November, he does not want to hang around the building past 2009. Yet few in the party believe it's possible, or preferable, to go back to targeting a dozen swing states every two or four years. "You cannot lurch from one election to the next with no game plan," Dean says. "I do believe the Democratic President is going to want a permanent political operation, and I think we're going to leave a very strong one here." Dean says the state party chairs have already persuaded Obama and Clinton to commit to funding the fifty-state strategy, which at a cost of $4 million to $5 million a year is a tiny fraction of the $300 million budgeted by the DNC for '08. "The one thing they should not get rid of is the fifty-state strategy," says Democratic strategist Donna Brazile. "We need to do more, not less."

If Dean will be moving on to other things, we need to start thinking NOW about who possible good replacements might be.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 05:56 AM
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20. K&R. (nt)
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 06:04 AM
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21. K&R
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 07:17 AM
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22. Does the DNC make its voter database available to primary campaigns?
I'd never thought I'd find internal Democratic party politics so fascinating but Howard Dean has been making some incredible changes.

One thing that fascinates me is the question of the voter lists. According to the article the Clintonites apparently were offended when the Dean and the state party chairs rejected the voter database developed by Terry McAuliff and spent a large sum of money to put together one that more suited thier needs. They were so offended, in fact, that they decided to sort of roll thier own database so that they wouldn't have to use the Dean contaminated DNC database.

Does anyone know if Obama used the DNC database as the source for his voter outreach? If so, this might help explain some of his ability to organize.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:00 AM
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23. This is controlled by state parties
In WA state, I had no trouble getting access for the Kucinich campaign.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:07 AM
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24. What I'm wondering is if Clinton insisted in using Ickes database?
If they felt that the new DNC database was somehow inadequate (due the the participation of one Howard Dean) and insisted on developing their own, this may have put them at a disadvantage.

If they did that would have not been a very smart move.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:13 AM
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25. Agreed. It's very easy to add canvassing data
The idea is that if more people put data in, we won't have to keep reinventing the wheel. Of course it's people who want to do long term organizing of the base that think this is a good idea.
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bonzotex Donating Member (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:35 AM
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26. guys like Carville have forgotten...
They've forgotten, or perhaps never knew what is was like to try to be a Democrat is areas where the Democratic Party essentially had no presence.

Thank You Governor Dean! The 50 States strategy is brilliant and necessary long-term party building. It will seem even more obvious after the 2008 Democratic wins.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:28 PM
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28. The Legacy That We Should Be Thankful For...An Awakening
The DNC's game under McAulliffe was 50+1...throwing money at your strengths and he let the party in red and purple areas wither. The disintegration of the party structure had long been a problem...the "farm" system had all but vanished and with it the ability to generate a grassroot following. It's not that it wasn't there...the Democratic party and the DNC in specific felt it didn't need to reach out...that it could reasearch or buy its way in some strategic chess game.

Dr. Dean shook up the applecart. He tapped into the large resevoir of alienation and discontent...and, along with the netroots and the DFA...have built a strong infrastructure that now threatens the "establishment" and the change could come soon and swift. Dr. Dean has now restored the farm system and its about to produce a second crop of strong candidates...the real threat to the "establishment". The fact Democratic turnout has exceeded that of the GOOPers in virtually every primary and there are a full slate of eager and hungry Democrats ready to take it to the GOOP in House and Senate races across the country is a testament to the party building of Dr. Dean and his forward-looking approach to changing the party.

There's good reason Dr. Dean remains low key this season...he knows he's got a strong hand going into the fall and the party's progressive wing is sure to get stronger...and with it his own power base within the party. He's done a great job at the DNC and I hope he continues...it's fun to watch the pundits and "establishment" get their heads handed to them.
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