DainBramaged
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Fri Feb-29-08 02:01 PM
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Jim Webb should lead us in the Senate, not Harry Reid |
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Harry Reid has acquiesed to every filibuster and ploy the Rethugs have thrown at him. He is NEVER in front of the press, he is NEVER on the talking head circuit countering the spew of the Rethuglicans, and HE HAS NO BALLS.
A year or more ago I called for him to be replaced, and I was skewered here, so now it's time once again to get someone with balls to lead the Senate.
I nominate Jim Webb. I want someone who is willing to take it outside and take it personally when a Rethug impugns our side or tries to skirt the Constitution. I want a fresh face, a newcomer without baggage or owing anyone for his time in the Senate.
It's time.
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Fri Feb-29-08 02:02 PM
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Fri Feb-29-08 02:02 PM
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2. Feingold or Dodd would do just fine |
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And they have a helluva lot better chance of getting the job than Webb does.
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Fri Feb-29-08 02:03 PM
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3. Jim Webb, Dodd and Feingold aren't tough enough |
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Fri Feb-29-08 02:10 PM
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8. No way a two-year Senator gets the job |
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Plus, he voted for telco immunity. That alone disqualifies him.
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Fri Feb-29-08 02:14 PM
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Fri Feb-29-08 02:05 PM
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4. I saw MSNBC pull a reverse-FOX yesterday |
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They identified Harry Reid as "R-NV".
I snorted.
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Fri Feb-29-08 02:07 PM
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5. Joe Biden would get my vote |
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Hell I want to vote for him and he isn't even an okie
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Fri Feb-29-08 02:07 PM
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Fri Feb-29-08 02:11 PM
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10. That's where my mind went. |
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Fri Feb-29-08 02:07 PM
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7. You may want to look at Webb's voting record before you say that.. |
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Fri Feb-29-08 02:11 PM
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9. Webb sure would get my vote.... |
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Fri Feb-29-08 02:13 PM
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11. Webb's a little too conservative |
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We need someone willing to push liberal ideals, though I will agree finding a true liberal with the guts to push back against the GOP is a rare quality that few Democrats seem to have.
If Webb espoused more liberal ideas he would be perfect, but Im not aware that he has.
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Fri Feb-29-08 03:05 PM
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20. What do you think Harry Reid is, a Progressive Liberal or Faux Democrat |
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:rofl:
He is as close to a Conservative in his beliefs as any Rethug in the Senate, and he CAVES under pressure.
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Fri Feb-29-08 02:17 PM
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13. The Senior Senator Of Illinois... |
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I've long felt Senator Durbin would make a great Majority Leader...he's long championed Progressive causes.
Senator Webb should get the Armed Services chair...we need someone strong to help rebuild a shattered military and remove the political hacks.
Reid has had to tap dance with a Senate designed to be deadlocked from the outset (and it can be debated it was his fault)...and he's tried to be too smart by half more often than not and its resulted in a lot of frustrated Democrats. The endgame here is to get a larger Democratic majority in the Senate and then lets see what leadership needs we will have following the election. Right now the less the Senate does, the better.
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Fri Feb-29-08 02:18 PM
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Fri Feb-29-08 02:27 PM
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15. Webb is a freshman. He's unproven. Not saying I like Reid, but |
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Webb is new to the Senate game--he sort of has to earn his dues. I like Webb, but there's a lot of weird and unwarranted worship for this guy on DU and elsewhere--Webb for VP! Webb for Majority Leader! Webb for SecDef! Um, let's see how he pans out as a Senator for a couple years first.
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Fri Feb-29-08 03:02 PM
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18. Obama is unproven and is running for President |
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Fri Feb-29-08 03:05 PM
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21. He wasn't selected and promoted. He's just an ambitious young cuss. |
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He's offering himself, not being appointed. People can examine him and reject him. I don't think they'll put Webb above 40 or so other good Dem Senators for Majority Leader anytime soon. Dodd, Feingold, Boxer, even Hillary should come before Webb.
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Fri Feb-29-08 03:11 PM
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22. And which one of them would stand up to the Right??? |
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Our leaders have no balls, they are spineless, and they have NO presence in the press, NONE.
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Fri Feb-29-08 03:13 PM
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23. Feingold has balls. Boxer does (er, figuratively). Dodd does. Biden does. |
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They can outfox McConnell and his sorry band of obstructors better than Reid, I'll bet.
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:25 PM
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32. Are you kidding - Webb often votes with teh Republicans |
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He's better than Allen, but I thought the hero worship ended about a half year ago.
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Fri Feb-29-08 02:28 PM
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16. I'm not sure if it should be Webb but Reid HAS TO GO... EOM |
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Fri Feb-29-08 02:47 PM
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17. Yes, Reid is a eunuch and a traitor. |
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Matters not whether he was fully formed that way or just traded in his character over time. He should go since he's more concerned with undermining democracy than supporting it. A spineless whiner.
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Fri Feb-29-08 03:05 PM
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19. Didn't Webb join the sellout on FISA? Go with Dorgan! |
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Yep, he was right in there with Spector, Cornyn and McConnell.
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Fri Feb-29-08 03:23 PM
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24. If Obama becomes our candidate I would like to see Hillary as Senate Majority Leader. |
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She has to be one of the most powerful Democrats in the Senate or else she wouldn't bwe running for President. I think she would be a force to be reckoned with.
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Fri Feb-29-08 03:25 PM
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25. Agreed, and the lady definitely has balls...n/t |
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:33 PM
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33. She is not one of the most powerful Senators |
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She has little seniority in a body where that matters. People that most people never heard of have more power in getting important stuff though Congress. I really don't see HRC being given the Senate Majority post because she almost won the nomination. Do you remember any effort to make Kerry, who narrowly lost after easily winning the nomination. Majority leader? In fact, there was a whisper campaign - traceable (as always) to the Clinton wing, that bashed him as soon as the Senate was back is session for thinking he had claim to being a Democratic spokesman at all. If anything, she'll have less power because she will no longer be a potential President.
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Fri Feb-29-08 03:29 PM
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26. Bernnie Sanders ...... |
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An independent that tells it like it is and is scared of no one.:applause:
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Fri Feb-29-08 03:45 PM
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27. No thank you. I'll take a Democrat please. Durbin, Boxer or Feingold. |
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Fri Feb-29-08 04:16 PM
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28. Then why hasn't there been an uprising? |
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If you want them, why haven't they stood up and overthrown King Harry?
If they had balls, they'd be in front of the media to counter the Rethug slime, and they'd stop folding when King Harry says we can't do anything, they filibustered us, wahhhhhhh, we have to concede and lick Booshe's ass.
Reid needs to be gone. And the Progressive community needs to get off their ass and start a movement to get him out.
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Fri Feb-29-08 05:25 PM
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29. Bernie Sanders is more of a dem... |
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then most of the lot.:eyes:
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Fri Feb-29-08 05:42 PM
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30. It's not absence or size of balls....he's not scared, naive, or timid. He doing |
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exactly what he is expected to do by entrenched power and most dc dems. There is no opposition party. There are some opposition dems, but they are not given leadership positions.
The party is, of course, better than the GOP but sometimes they behave as though they aren't much different.
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:23 PM
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31. You need to examine Webb's voting record |
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He has voted against many things and for other things that displeased almost everyone on DU.
Also, he has been Senator for slightly more than a year.
He's kind of hot headed.
Why not demand DURBIN, a true liberal, already the whip , and with experience and seniority.
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:46 PM
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34. I like Webb, most of the time, but he is a reformed republican |
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And the only reason he is reformed is because * is such an asshat. He is doing a great job, and is infinitely better than Macaca, but I don't think I would want him to lead the Senate. I would rather see Dodd or Feingold as some others have mentioned.
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Fri Feb-29-08 06:55 PM
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35. Yeah, Feingold would kick ass! |
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Reid had his chances & wussed out.
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Fri Feb-29-08 09:02 PM
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Mr Webb on Feb.12, 2008 voted to close debate,then voted to give immunity to telephone companys that violated our right to privacy as guaranteed by our constitution. Their were only 29 senators that voted to uphold the constitution, and he wasn't one of them!
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Fri Feb-29-08 09:25 PM
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37. Yeah, and? What has Mr. Reid done for us lately? |
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I'll give Webb the benefit of the doubt. And I'll relate a very interesting comment Barack Obama made, between the Clinton's and McCain, which one isn't an insider? (Or to that effect).
I think it's time we upset the apple cart and sweep the trash out and go toe to toe with the Rethugs, before we lose another election.
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Fri Feb-29-08 09:43 PM
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38. He was on the Right side of that vote. |
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People who talk one way and act another are called hypocrites. People who say they stand for the constitution and vote against it are hypocrites.
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Fri Feb-29-08 09:52 PM
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39. Was Hillary a hypocrite for voting for the war? |
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John Kerry? Do they get the benefit of the doubt?
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Fri Feb-29-08 10:40 PM
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Did this administration "Cook the Books" on intelligence, I don't know. If they throught they were defending us from another 9-11 yea they get the benefit of the doubt. But their was no Weapons of Mass Destruction found. No reason to go to War. Pope John Paul II called our involement in Iraq an "Unjust and Immoral War". The President tells the world we don't torture people. He lied. The intelligence folks tell us they waterboarded 3 people. We have lost the moral high ground. There is an old saying, fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
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