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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 05:26 PM
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Here is a horrible result of NCLB...its not my school, but we could be facing this
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 05:51 PM by greenbriar
2 Wichita middle schools must start over
Marshall, Mead teachers may have to re-apply for jobs
BY SUZANNE PEREZ TOBIAS
The Wichita Eagle

Jaime Oppenheimer/The Wichita Ea
Marshall Middle School principal Mark Jolliffe talks to a group of seventh-graders about the upcoming reading assessment test. He was encouraging them to set personal goals to do better on the test.

Your schools' scores: Our interactive database features information from every school in the state

What does 'No Child Left Behind' Do?

No Child Left Behind requires states to set reading and math target scores progressively higher each year, with a goal of all students testing at grade level by 2014. One in 10 Kansas schools did not meet the achievement targets last year.

Schools that receive Title I money -- designed to provide extra help to low-income students -- and that fall short of goals two years in a row earn a "needing improvement" label. Marshall and Mead are two of 37 Wichita schools on that list.

Sanctions increase the longer a school remains on the list. Schools that fail to show adequate progress after two years must allow children to transfer to another school in the district. After three years, the schools must offer tutoring and other extra help. If the schools still do not improve after five years, they can be restaffed.
Two Wichita middle schools will be restructured next year because they did not meet state test-score targets -- a final and dramatic step in sanctions required by the federal No Child Left Behind Act.

http://www.kansas.com/news/story/326667.html








<<I know many teachers there and the principal...they work their rear ends off!!!!>>>



my school will be looking at this in the next 2 years
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 05:42 PM
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1. all in the grand scheme for private vouchers
grrrrrr
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 05:45 PM
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2. My school is one of the few in our district that makes AYP and we are no better off
We are now getting the kids whose parents have chosen to transfer them from the low performing schools. The district has to pay to transport them, which is expensive. And the kids are not the cream of the crop. It's a mess. We have been inundated with kids who not only don't test well, but have behavior problems as well. Another one arrived today. He's a mess.

It's like the system is making sure we DON'T make AYP again.

And the pressure to keep the scores up, with the floor rising every year, is just intense.

This law so sucks.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 05:49 PM
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3. how about this little gem...
One example is the "25 Book Campaign," which encourages students, faculty and parents to read 25 books a year. At America's Choice schools, principals and teachers never have a conversation with a child without asking, "What are you reading?" Aaronson said.



when these kids are sleeping without beds and without heat

working at 12,13 ect to help their parents or being baby sitters so parents can work two three jobs

they don't give a rip about "what book are you reading...
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 06:23 PM
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6. I find it sad that there are kids don't read 25 books a year
Yes most of the kids I work with have very hard lives. Their parents really struggle to survive. But that doesn't mean they can't read a book. What is the answer to improving their lives and their standard of living? Reading books, getting an education.

What I see as a very negative effect of NCLB is the failure to spark intellectual curiosity in kids. They are no longer taught to be curious and want to learn, which leads to wanting to read books. And I think we can acknowledge the hard lives they face while nurturing a love of reading at the same time.

I think we need to be more realistic about homework. Many kids have no one at home to help them with homework and many are at school for nearly 10 hours in before and after school care programs. Parents work long hours and many work nights. We need to let these kids go home and be with their families and quit saddling them with homework. Homework would be illegal if I made the rules :)
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 05:51 PM
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4. What is AYP? nt
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 05:58 PM
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5. Adequate yearly progress
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 06:24 PM
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7. The bane of our existence in education these days.
That's what AYP is. :puke:
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:28 PM
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8. teaching to the tests
and they have no common sense


the elementary school that feeds into our middle school has sacrificed many things to help their AYP

the students can not count change, they have no map skills they have no idea what the capital of their own state is


on and on and on
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:31 PM
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9. my 14 yo BIL
reads like a 1st grader........
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 08:06 PM
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12. But I'll bet they are great at filling in bubbles!
:)
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:54 PM
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10. That's the way privatization is achieved,
which is, of course, the point.

You don't have to be a statistician to understand that there will never be a time when all, or most, children, are "above average." Set up a formula forcing everyone to be above the current average in a set period of years, and when they don't reach that goal, you get to come in, take over, and allow private interests to control the "restructuring."

It's hard to be optimistic when the whole plan is supported by most Democrats as well as Republicans.
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Reader Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 01:10 PM
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11. To understand the purpose of NCLB, these are the only numbers you need:
Largest U.S. Educational Publishing Company: McGraw-Hill

McGraw-Hill profits, 2001: $480.4 million

Year NCLB implemented: 2002

McGraw-Hill profits, 2007: $2.7 billion



McGraw-Hill lobbying expenses, 2007: $43,351,077


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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 01:46 AM
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14. Harold McGraw III
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 02:19 AM by halobeam
President and CEO of McGraw Hill... also interestingly:

Director at
ConocoPhillips
Houston, Texas
BASIC MATERIALS / MAJOR INTEGRATED OIL & GAS
Director since September 2005

http://www.forbes.com/finance/mktguideapps/personinfo/FromPersonIdPersonTearsheet.jhtml?passedPersonId=938487

Director for
United Technologies Corp

http://www.utc.com/profile/facts/index.htm

This is even more interesting:

come see the executives in this company and the other company names they are associated with.. http://www.hoovers.com/free/search/simple/people/index.xhtml?query_string=McGraw-
Hill+Ryerson+Limited+&which=people&page=1&x=32&y=10

SEC Filings if they are of any interest to you:
http://www.hoovers.com/free/co/secoutline.xhtml?ID=10976&ipage=5766127
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:45 AM
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17. That is really pretty fucking amazing.
WHY isn't this publicly known?

Holy shit. Really.

Another oil man.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 10:09 AM
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18. took some digging, I'm hoping someone here w/ better research abilities can move further with this.
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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 01:24 AM
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13. Here's the report card for the school I used to teach at:
Here's the report card for the school I used to teach at: http://www.ode.state.oh.us/reportcardfiles/2006-2007/BUILD/034199.pdf

It was rough when I was there - and from speaking with former co-workers it is rougher now. I was told a couple of years ago that they were not teaching anything beyond what is required to try to meet the NCLB standards, manifested in the annual report cards. They still have a long way to go.

I have since found out that even though it is rough, there are pockets of hope. Here is the difference a single dedicated teacher can make in a district in academic emergency:

https://www.shawbandtochina.com/





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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 01:55 AM
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15. You can't "test" quality into anything.
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 01:56 AM by gulliver
Quality has to be created. The problem with NCLB is that it takes an accountability approach. Only idiots would think that might work. Yeah, the schools will get better with bureucrats "watching" to make sure that schools perform. Cuz the problem is that schools were not being held "accountable enough."

How did Bush and Kennedy get stupidity this intense into a bill in broad daylight? Didn't anyone notice it? How is it that such idiocy even makes it out of someone's mouth, much less into all the public schools in the country? Ted Kennedy is an abject idiot. Bush is far below.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:16 AM
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16. What does NCLB have to do with McGraw Hill and what do they have to do with OIL???
see my post 14
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