Winterblues
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Mon Mar-03-08 11:33 AM
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The Bush* Doctrine of "Pre-emptive Attack" ~ Good policy or not? |
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Is the Bush* Doctrine a true American Value? Is pre-emptive attacks a good thing and how far should it be carried. If we suspect you of being a bank robber should we bust into your house shooting? Do we no longer believe a person or group of people innocent until proved guilty or do we just accept the word of the Government whether it be Bush*/McCain or Obama/Clinton? IMO this Doctrine is sickening..and any candidate that endorses it is on the wrong track and does not represent Change..
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Mon Mar-03-08 11:34 AM
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1. Are you fucking kidding? |
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Mon Mar-03-08 11:36 AM
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2. Sounds like you believe we should kick some doors down. |
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Mon Mar-03-08 11:37 AM
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he's saying it's not even a valid question.
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ixion
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Mon Mar-03-08 11:36 AM
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not even worthy of analysis.
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Echo In Light
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Mon Mar-03-08 11:36 AM
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4. Just for clarification - BAD idea |
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Mon Mar-03-08 11:39 AM
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6. It's an illegal doctrine..how many times must I say this |
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Mon Mar-03-08 11:41 AM
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7. sure has been bad huh? |
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It's driven China, Russia, North Korea, Iran... to build up their military and driven them away from the closer relations we had with them before Bush took office. Basically telling your enemies we engage in a policy of aggressive warfare in which we define we will attack you not to defend our country but because we feel your country is an ill defined threat. It's been a horrible foreign policy.
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Mon Mar-03-08 11:44 AM
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8. We just used it to bomb Somalia and two weeks ago Pakistan |
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Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 11:45 AM by Winterblues
We have at least one of our candidates saying it was a good thing...
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Mon Mar-03-08 11:44 AM
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9. Let me make this easy - Anything the bu$h regime has concocted is not good |
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Nothing the bu$h regime has done is good for America or the world.
Only Oil Companies and Defense Contractors have made out on bu$h's deals
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Mon Mar-03-08 11:49 AM
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10. The Bush Doctrine is NOT Pre-Emptive Attack. It's Mis-Directed Attack. |
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A robber is about to break into your house, so what do you do?
1) Your best friend, Sol D'Rabia is about to break into your house, despite years of lucrative business arrangements with you.
2) Issue public statements to the effect that the guy who picked on you in Middle School, Ira Ack, is about to break into your house. Even though he's in a wheelchair and needs to eat from a tube, you say he's still a threat to you.
3) Blow-up up Ira's house and most of his family.
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Mon Mar-03-08 11:51 AM
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11. First of all, "preemptive" is just bait-and-switch; Iraq was *preventative* war, |
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by which I mean that Bush went to war without an imminent threat. Second, the use of the term "preemptive" is a meme meant to distract us from my first point.
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Mon Mar-03-08 12:01 PM
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13. Exactly. That the question is even in the air 5 years later is testimony |
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to the failure of msm and dc dems to clarify the issue.
Pre-emptive war MAY be legal, preventative war is not.
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Winterblues
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Mon Mar-03-08 12:11 PM
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15. The question is attack not war |
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We just attacked a sovereign nation Somalia. Two weeks ago we attacked Pakistan. It was a Pre-emptive attack to stop some supposed terrorist from attacking the USA although they don't have any chance at all to protest their guilt/innocence. In Pakistan a house was blown up and ten people killed some were children.. It was a Pre-emptive attack that one of our candidates said in the last debates was a good thing.. I don't agree and am trying to find out if many here do agree.
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Mon Mar-03-08 11:52 AM
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12. this thuggish regime, wants us to believe this is the new norm |
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how many sheeple will believe it??? Disgusting we have reached the lowest of lows.
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Mon Mar-03-08 12:06 PM
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14. Them NeoCons and PNACers got a hold of Bushies brain and Easily influenced him |
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The policy reveals the Flawed reasoning of the Administration...
With those guys...its MEism above the Good of the Nation...Past History in other cultures advises us many other so called leaders used this with devastating results
Triple BAD
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Mon Mar-03-08 12:17 PM
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16. Hmm...let me put it this way |
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If I were playing by their rules, Me and friends could invade a US city(Let's say New York), kill most of the people there, invite my friends in to set up businesses, set myself or a friend up as mayor, and then tell the US Gov't any made up story I like and claim that my actions were legal.
Does this sound sane to anyone? We've done it over and over again.
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Mon Mar-03-08 01:43 PM
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17. I'm sorry, but this doesn't even warrant serious discussion. |
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It's right up there with the question "Is it okay for us to torture?"
The fact that these questions are even remotely considered appropriate boggles the mind, and by itself is sufficient reason for the Bushco mis-administration to rot in hell for eternity.
In both cases, it's not a question about who the other guys are, it's a question about who we are.
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