Teen who killed dad angry he couldn't use Internet

[Phx_Dem]

Jim Walsh
The Arizona Republic
Mar. 5, 2008 06:54 PM

A 15-year-old boy told Mesa police he shot his father in the back of the head last month because he wouldn't let the teenager use the Internet, saying My Space was his outlet.

When Hughstan Schlicker heard officers talking about the investigation, he responded, "Dad came home, I shot him in the head, what investigation?" according to a Mesa police report released Wednesday.

Almost laughing, the teen told police, "along with murder, can you put me down for truancy, I ditched today," the report said. "Can we clean up this before my mom gets home, I don't want her to come home and see my dad dead."

Later, he told detectives he was angry with his father but couldn't remember the reason. "But I was mad at him very much and I wish I could take everything back; I wish this was a bad dream but it's not."


http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/0305dadmurder0306-on.html

[YOY]

1. Surreal

n/t

[Junkdrawer]

2. Note:

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Hughstan said during an interview with a homicide detective that he considered committing suicide in front of his father after finding a shotgun and ammunition in the garage of their home, but decided to murder his father instead and then commit suicide.

...

The Crull's son also told police that Ted Schlicker always carried a handgun, but she never saw him take it out of the holster. The boy also said he never saw Hughstan handle a gun and never "expressed any curiosity with the many guns in the home," the report said.

Police seized numerous guns from the home during the investigation, according to the report.

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[Warpy]

3. Kid's got a major screw loose

National health care with mental health care might have kept his dad alive.

[Junkdrawer]

4. Locking up the "many guns" in the house may have helped too. n/t

[slackmaster]

5. Would you feel better if the kid had stabbed, clubbed, or poisoned his dad to death?

</Archie_Bunker>

BTW I agree that the guns should have been locked up. I live alone and keep mine in a safe.

[ljm2002]

11. Well now, you see...

...had the boy used one of those other weapons, there's a good chance the father could have fought back and we'd have a story of family violence sans the death (most likely, not assured of course). Whereas with a gun, one shot and POW! you're dead.

BTW I do support our right to bear arms. But I do tire of people who endlessly make the comparison with knives, clubs etc. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. Any study of history will make it crystal clear: those armed with firearms wiped out those who were not. Why? Different, more effective and more lethal weapon.

[Blue_Tires]

6. that kid was unhinged enough to kill his father with a spork...

guns don't really matter here, imo

[madokie]

8. thats always the answer isn't it???

Sheeeeze, I'm sure the gun was over there taunting the kid with come on come on you ain't got no balls if you don't pick me up and shoot that bastid, now didn't it. It's neither the gun nor the fact the gun was there problem and until that is understood then, well I just don't know. I'll just give up I guess.

Nothing personal to you just the response is always the same.

[Junkdrawer]

10. "...and the funny thing was all I said was that the guns should be LOCKED UP.."

"But you know those gun guys..."

[Forrest Greene]

15. Almost. What I Think Happened Is

... gun was over there taunting the kid with come on come on you ain't got no balls if you don't pick me up and shoot that bastid.

[Forrest Greene]

24. Pardon Me, My Mistake

My first reply quoted madokie's post & added the two words shown below in parentheses, but used square brackets instead. It seems square brackets are interpreted by DU's software as invisible denoters of HTML commands, & since the words contained in them were not HTML commands, nothing at all showed up.

So -- since I did want to make the point that, in my opinion, gun proponents bear a good deal more of the responsibility for the negative effects of their presence in America's culture than they ordinarily seem willing to shoulder -- here is my response again.

FWIW, although not a gun owner myself, I have no beef with those who practice responsible ownership. I would submit that raising a child who is willing to shoot you dead over Internet access, using one of your own guns to boot, is rather less than adequately responsible gun ownership. Not to mention parenting...


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Almost. What I think happened is(America's) gun (culture) was over there taunting the kid with come on come on you ain't got no balls if you don't pick me up and shoot that bastid.

[walldude]

12. From the sound of it, not with this kid

He's off the deep end.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

21. Banning the internet

Banning the internet would have helped also.

David

[Xithras]

7. Yep. Something is fundamentally broken in this one.

People snap and do things in the heat of passion all the time that they later regret, but it sounds like this kid had no remorse about it at all. Something is seriously miswired when you can't even muster up sympathy for your own dead parent.

[bean fidhleir]

19. If the dialog is accurate, that's schizophrenia in living technicolor

Classic, really.

[Mugu]

9. Well at least he had a good reason.

Who knows what the father might have done next, like take away television or something.
(I shouldn't have to add this, but just in case.) :sarcasm:


Regards, Mugu

[Johnny Potpie]

13. Another reason I support

Gun control. More guns in more hands is dangerous.

[YOY]

14. Dude...I know your intention is good but beware of what you just said

Many 2nd Amendment folks here including myself. Those words have caused hornets' nests to explode here on DU before.

[Phx_Dem]

18. Yeah God forbid

anyone state the obvious.

[Junkdrawer]

20. Shit. I got flamed for suggesting that the dad may have wanted to lock up...

his "many guns".

Guess I hit a nerve.

[YOY]

22. Hey I agree with you.

But I just wanted to warn him about the sensitive issue.

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

16. Youre all wrong

This is a good example for the need to internet censorship... YOu should not be able to use the internet without having a mental health exam and a federal license... If only we had done all that this kids would not be my-space addicted and alive today...

[gratuitous]

17. Kid sounds remarkably tuned in to the American zeitgeist

He wanted something and was willing to use any means at his disposal, even killing, to get it. That's completely in line with current U.S. policy as practiced by the Bush administration. Insane? Hell, young Hughstan should probably receive one of Bush's Presidential Medals of Freedom.

And on top of it all, he appears to be very solicitous of his mother's feelings, and knows how finding her husband dead on the floor would upset her. The military should hire him to do a recruiting spot.

[TheFriendlyAnarchist]

23. Kind of sad that that was one of my first thoughts too.

[proud2BlibKansan]

25. Is he posting in GDP?

:)

[Xenotime]

26. typical of parenting today. This kid was suffering and parents don't care.