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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:00 AM
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Hungry?
Surging costs of groceries hit home
Bread, eggs, milk prices up sharply
By Robert Gavin
Globe Staff / March 9, 2008

American families, already pinched by soaring energy costs, are taking another big hit to household budgets as food prices increase at the fastest rate since 1990. After nearly two decades of low food inflation, prices for staples such as bread, milk, eggs, and flour are rising sharply, surging in the past year at double-digit rates, according to the Labor Department. Milk prices, for example, increased 26 percent over the year. Egg prices jumped 40 percent.

Escalating food costs could present a greater problem than soaring oil prices for the national economy because the average household spends three times as much for food as for gasoline. Food accounts for about 13 percent of household spending compared with about 4 percent for gas.

Rising food prices can be particularly corrosive to consumer confidence because people are so frequently exposed to the cost increases. "It's the biggest risk we face economically, and it might be the thing that does us in," said Rich Yamarone, director of economic research at Argus Research Corp. in New York. "There's nothing really worse than having a job, making money, and forking most of it over just so you can have the same amount of food. You're running in place, and it really weighs on you."

As with energy, higher food costs cut into discretionary income that buys everything from cars to computers to movie tickets and drives the consumer-based US economy. Falling home values and a faltering stock market have battered consumer confidence, spurring a retrenchment in spending that is contributing to recent job losses and pulling the economy toward recession.

Many analysts expect consumers to keep paying more for food. Wholesale food prices, an indicator of where supermarket prices are headed, rose last month at the fastest rate since 2003, with egg prices jumping 60 percent from a year ago, pasta products 30 percent, and fruits and vegetables 20 percent, according to the Labor Department. "No retailer can absorb cost increases indefinitely," said Laura Sen, president of BJ's Wholesale Club, the Natick chain of discount warehouse stores. "Given what we are seeing, all retail channels need to raise prices, and from our observations, are doing so."

Amy Brnger, 43, of Portsmouth, N.H., just needs to look at her grocery receipts. For a long time, feeding her family of three used to cost around $125 a week. Suddenly this winter, her bill leaped to about $200. Quickly, Brnger, a school counselor and mother of a 9-year-old daughter, looked for ways to save. She buys fewer organic products, which can cost twice as much as conventional goods. Instead of buying chicken breasts, she buys whole chickens and cuts them into parts, saving about $2 a pound. She buys dried beans, instead of canned. And she is baking her own bread.

More: http://www.boston.com/business/personalfinance/articles/2008/03/09/surging_costs_of_groceries_hit_home/

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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:09 AM
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1. if rising food and everything else prices don't get you Spring


extreme weather and Spring heating bills will.


our poor are becoming seriously poor

our lower middle class are becoming poor

etc. down the financial ladder

when ladder descenders can't afford to buy mood changers anymore - look out!
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:15 AM
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2. It's Insane
Thank you for posting. I haven't seen a lot about rising food costs. Both my husband and I are disabled and are on a fixed income and unfortunately, I have to have medication. I have a medicare supplemental but a low cap for prescriptions. But-back to the subject being discussed. I went to the store yesterday to get a couple of items. I bought fresh broccoli, potatoes and a sauce mix. It cost $9.17. I have given up trying to buy organic and it's been so long since I have had steak I don't remember if I liked it or not.

We will plant a garden again this year. Neither of us can handle a huge garden but we will grow tomatoes, beans, peas, cucumbers, radishes and probably a few other vegetables. We are lucky to live in CA. Within my neighborhood there are peach, lemon, orange and avocado trees. When I was a child my mother always canned and froze food for the winter. I hated it but I find myself doing the same.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 02:43 PM
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26. We're expanding the garden this year.
I found the square foot gardening book at the bookstore last night. His website is really helpful (and free), too.

http://www.squarefootgardening.com/

Smaller, cheaper gardens that are easier to work in. Can't beat that.

I'm also trying to get our church's women's group to do a church canning project this summer. We can bring in produce and jars and stuff, and we can all work together (in the air conditioning :) ) to get it all put up and then divide it up equally. I'm hoping that we'd also be able to put some aside for our priest and his family (we really don't pay them enough, and they're poor) and our shut-ins.
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:35 AM
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55. Just be careful what wood you use in a raise garden
Some woods will have arsenic leached out of them into the soil..
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 12:24 PM
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61. We're thinking cedar.
None of that treated crap for us. :) Cedar should last for a couple of years and look decent, right?
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 03:11 PM
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68. Ceders a good wood
If you want to extend its life even further line the inside of the box with a weed cloth before filling it in.. The one thing I hate about my condo is I had to give up gardening..
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femmedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:37 AM
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58. We have an 8x4' garden here in CT and we've been eating garden greens all winter.
We used old glass doors to build a cold frame. On cold nights we cover it with a blanket and heat it with a lightbulb.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 12:25 PM
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62. Brilliant! That's a great idea!
I don't know where I'd put one, but I'd love a cold frame. Hubby thinks I'm a wee bit crazy, though.
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TheFriendlyAnarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:33 PM
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70. We did that one year. It would have worked better if we had the time to actually look over it.
We ended with with lettuce that grew into 3 foot TREES.
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:21 PM
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72. Thank you
I bookmarked the site.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:23 PM
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73. I bought that book,and am excited about it!
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:27 PM
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74. I am, too! This looks like gardening my style.
My style being lazy and planting way more than we probably need. ;)
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:41 AM
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82. Another worthwhile read: Animal Miracle Vegetable, by
Kingsolver. I'm halfway through...
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:19 AM
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3. That's what we get when necessities are treated like slot machine lines
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 11:19 AM by SoCalDem
by "traders"..who just drive prices up as they rake in the money..

just like they do with oil..
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:19 AM
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4. I noticed the price of milk went way up
and I live in the dairy state.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:20 AM
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5. Thanks a pantload republicons
You are destroying America's economy...
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:26 AM
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6. Snack foods as well
I am a wholesaler and I just raised prices on potato chips and soda pop quite substantially. 20oz soda went from $26.65 per case to $28.96 per case and that is what I charge the stores. 9oz potato chips went from $2.49 per bag to $2.71 per bag and 20oz went from $3.60 per bag to $3.89 per bag. Twelve pack sodas went from $9.15 per case to $9.95 per case. Remember this is what I charge the major stores such as Safeway and Fred Meyers. Wal-Mart and Costco I sell for a little less but still went up substantially.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:28 AM
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7. Cat litter is way up too
What's up with that?

:shrug:


and peanut butter and eggs are way up too :(
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:30 AM
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8. Our litter is free, head down to the beach and load up some sand...
already has that fresh fish smell...:hi:
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:36 AM
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14. no beach/sand in SW Ohio
:(

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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:58 AM
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17. Cat litter is a rather new phenomenon.
started somewhere in the 60s, I think. My cats have never used litter (maybe on an extended road trip) but otherwise not. I have a cat door that goes directly to the outside and they just go out (which cats prefer anyway) to do their business.
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lse7581011 Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:39 AM
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59. Not a Good Idea!
for where we live! Fisher cats, coyotes, etc think cats make wonderful meals!
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 12:30 PM
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65. Cats that go outside have much shorter life expectancies.
They catch diseases, get in fights, get hit by cars, get attacked by bigger predators, etc.

A well cared for cat is an indoor cat.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:06 PM
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66. i must have some weird cats!
there's a litter box in my house, and my two cats go out for a short while daily. however, even after being outside, they will come inside and go DIRECTLY to the catbox! drives me nuts!
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 02:54 PM
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28. I'll trade you some sand out of my yard, for some clay out of yours.
I need to buy some kitty litter so I can raise the clay content of my soil (sand) so I can put my garden in.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 02:58 PM
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29. LOL
I can't even see see the clay in my yard. It is covered with 14 inches of snow!
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 04:13 PM
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33. This is Florida.
Mine's covered in 14 inches of grass-like weeds!
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:33 AM
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10. oil has to transport all food - oil is over 100 barrel now
nt
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 03:01 PM
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32. Cleaning supplies, soap and water UP!
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:31 AM
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9. But Will....
You are getting a tax rebate to pay for it. Stop yer whining.

:sarcasm:
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:35 AM
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11. I wish your price graphs would show Y2K prices ...



... to reflect how much prices have skyrocketed since the corrupt BushCo Regime seized power.









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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:52 PM
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22. It's the graphic the Globe had available.
Betcha Google will know the answer to that, tho.

:)
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:35 AM
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12. I Eat Organics, Haven't Noticed Much Difference
Except for imports.

A half gallon of milk costs me about $3.70 - same as it has for the last 4 years or more.

Produce? Depends on what I can find that's local.

The prices that are going through the roof are on the stuff that's always been subsidized in the past, keeping costs artificially low.

If more people knew how much food actually costs, they might have been paying more attention to the Farm Bill all along.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:36 AM
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13. Thanks Will, this is going to be bad. Hunger is one of my main advocacy
issues. Every little thing we can do will help someone a bit.
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:37 AM
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15. All guns no butter.
And the guns are overpriced and often shoddily made.

The neocon utopia.

:puke:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:41 AM
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16. Is it time for torches and pitchforks yet?
I'll just sit here and watch American Idol while you gut the Constitution and use my money to murder a million or so Iraqis, but when my Cheetos go up 50 cents a bag, you are playing with dynamite, buddy!
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classykaren Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:41 PM
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40. Miserly moms.com Frugal recipes
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Asia Expat Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:08 PM
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18. Just to let you know...
It is not just a problem in America.

I live in Singapore and food prices have been steadily rising for months.

In fact, a quart of milk today was 7% costlier than just yesterday.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:09 PM
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19. For basic cooking and menus, go to www.hillbillyhousewife.com
and take a look. This is an excellent resource for basic, feed-your-family info.

Anyone in a bind should follow her menus seriously--you'll save an incredible amt of money while making sure everyone is fed well. There's no room for junk, I'll warn you.
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 02:32 PM
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25. Thanks so much for this info!
I went to the site and signed up for the newsletter. Will study her recipes, etc., more in detail when I have time. I'm also sending the link to my two grown daughters, for whom I had hoped to leave a better world but somehow it hasn't worked out that way. Especially concerned about my grandkids, of course. As prices rise, so does the stress level on their parents. Appreciate this link!

Blessings.
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:53 PM
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49. Same thing, shop list, tips and recipes
at Better Times

better times click on the Almanac of Useful Information

This site has a wealth of ideas to save money, to survive during an economic crisis.
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:05 PM
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20. Wouldn't it be interesting if....
...the rise in prices decoupled us from our reliance on industrially-produced foodlike substances, and got us back into the kitchen making our own bread, cooking our own dried beans, canning our own home-grown produce, etc.?

It might finally break the link between poverty and nutritional disease that has become so strong because of artificially subsidized, cheap corn and soy and its relationship to industrially-produced foodlike substances.

Unfortunately, it would also mean many families would face a terrible choice between working to pay rent and utilities and buy basic ingredients, and having time and facilities to prepare nutritious food.

I don't know the answer; I'm just interested in seeing how it all plays out. I know we've cut our food budget in half over the past year by no longer eating out and eliminating industrially-produced foodlike substances from our diet, but we have two adults and some financial resources. I worry about families with kids where the adults are already maxed on work time with two or three jobs apiece just to keep a roof over their heads.

thoughtfully,
Bright
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:12 PM
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21. I do think this hits the families with kids the worst - especially the teen aged years
Where the boys can eat a large pizza all b y themselves and then ask "When will dinner be?"

If you have girls, you can always hope they are anorexic. (<jes' kidding>)

But as far as organics - the staples like dried beans and peas, millet, oats, flour etc, are not that expensive. In fact, most organic grains and the like are as cheap or cheaper than the commercial brands. It is pricey when getting into things like free range chicken or premium free range beef.

It will be a crisis for us when/if sunflower seeds go above $ 2 a lb.
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mcollier Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 02:01 PM
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23. And so what are we going to do about it????
I ask you to join the Obama team to help take our country in an new direction, one of openness, honesty, integrity, hope, respect, wise judgment and prosperity... Together we can make the difference. We all have worked hard to get power back to the people. With Barack Obama, we have that opportunity...
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 02:31 PM
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24. Down one floor.
:)
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:57 PM
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43. Michelle Obama impressed the heck out of me
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 05:58 PM by truedelphi
Comes from a very knowing, middle income background.

IMHO, No one who is worried about the cost of groceries should be supporting Hillary Clinton.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:51 PM
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46. You talking about that same Michelle Obama who lives in a 1M+ house that a slum lord helped
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 06:51 PM by TheGoldenRule
her & her hubby buy? The one who's best buddies with Oprah one of the richest, but most out of touch women on the planet?

:wtf:

:rofl:
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:07 PM
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47. I agree with you abt Oprah.
But I really think that Michelle remembers where she came from.

And it's not always about where you are now, it's whether or not you remember "the little people"
and where you were before circumstances changed. Michelle has that quality. Senator Clinton doesn't.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:38 PM
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48. Did the Obamas really need a One Million Dollar + house?
Why was it so necessary for their slum lord friend Rezko to buy the adjoining piece of property and sell back a chuck of it to the Obamas?

Sorry, but the Obamas are out of touch too. Their judgment is very cloudy and questionable if they associate with criminals.

But hey, * & Co associate with criminals every day.

Guess that kind of behavior is par for the course for elected officials these days. :puke:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:28 AM
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54. Thanks for being on-point
Pardon me while I go get the pooper-scooper to clean up this pant-load you dropped in my thread about food and the economy.

The shit-slinging monkey cage is one flight down.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:03 AM
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57. So the person singing the praises of Michelle Obama in this thread about Hunger smells like a rose?
Excuse ME, but that Obama crap didn't belong in this thread in the first place.

I flung it back because I'm sick of it. In case you haven't noticed, the Obamanuts sling their crap all over DU.

So if you think my post was bad, you might want to invest in the extra large pooper scooper to pick up the many loads they leave lying around while you're at it.



BTW, if the whole thing bothered you that much, you could have easily asked a mod to delete the sub-thread.

But you didn't because it was more fun to trash me.

Guess I shouldn't be surprised.


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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:26 PM
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51. you sound like a f***ing campaign message
approved by Obama :o
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:07 AM
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60. Unfortunately, the price of Kool-Aid has stayed the same
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 09:07 AM by LostinVA
Back to GD:P with you.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 02:47 PM
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27. We're doing a lot of that.
Our budget got out of control, and when we sat down to really go through it, we found that the food budget was the main culprit. So, I'm trying to finally bake bread (I suck at it, but the Amish starter sourdough recipe I tried last week finally worked) on my own, do our own beans, keep the crockpot going at least once a week (usually twice), more soups, and get more creative on keeping it in the budget.

I worry about those kids, too. The reality is, working too many hours means not enough hours at home to cook, prepare things, can or freeze up produce, and more. Most people are really between a rock and a hard place. It's terrible.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:40 AM
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56. I mix bread dough in a Cuisinart food processor.
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 02:42 AM by Perragrande
Some people use bread machines -- they are cheap now, but I've never used one.

My medium-sized Cuisinart holds six cups of flour which is enough for two loaves of real yeast bread. It does the hard work of kneading. Take it up, split it into two halves and dump into loaf pans to rise and later, bake.

Homemade bread, even white bread, is SOOO much better than storebought, or as my Scots mom would say, store-boughten.


On edit: If you don't have time to let bread rise, you can make what are called "quick breads" . Those are breads that use baking soda/baking powder to leaven the dough instead of yeast. Look in a cookbook under "quick breads".

Hope this helps.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 12:27 PM
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63. I've tried that.
See, I've got the bread baking version of the brown thumb. Everything I make comes out as a brick. This last one, though, an Amish starter sourdough bread version instead of the usual quickbread recipe for the starter, actually came out decently. How, I have no idea. Crazy. I'm going to try it again this week and see if I can make it again.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 04:48 PM
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35. That could be good, unfortunately our food supply has been contaminated
to the point that making your own doesn't really matter. Our corn, wheat, dairy, meat, and a veritable grocery list (sorry I just couldn't resist) of items are not even allowed into most European countries anymore, due to the toxins, additives, and GMOs that come along with our "bounty".




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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 02:59 PM
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30. Cooking fuel
"She buys dried beans, instead of canned. And she is baking her own bread."

What is she paying in energy costs? Beans cook on top of the stove for about an hour and a half. The oven is running for an hour to bake bread. I'm not sure this is the way to go.

Rice takes less time to cook. The stir-fry method was developed where fuel was scarce. It also uses a minimum of meats. Navajo fry bread is amazingly easy, delicious and enough for a large family can be made in ten minutes. It also was developed where fuel was scarce.

I wonder how much she truly saves once she pays the ever increasing fuel energy prices.
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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 04:53 PM
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36. Hillbilly Housewife: 3 Dozen Eggs @ 69¢/doz??
Not where I live.

I sent the link to my daughter, a SAHM with 2 young children. I had the kids Friday and yesterday. They drank a gallon of milk between the baby's bottles and their cereal. I don't know how they do it.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:45 PM
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41. Huh? Don't know who you are responding to. I'd like to find $.69 eggs too!
I read some people are gradually switching to powdered milk for the kids. I'd sure hate to try to buy milk and food for teenagers these days!

Sodas are expensive. As are bottled waters. I drink iced tea. I get 100 store-brand teabags for $1.
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burf Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:25 PM
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37. On the cooking of beans
use a pressure cooker. Works great, takes a lot less time and energy. We use the pressure cooker for cooking cheap meats or if we don't want it to sit in the oven all day. Tenderizes the meat, then finish it in the oven and you are ready to eat!
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:36 PM
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38. Oh yes!
I live at an altitude where things take a long time to cook. The BEST beans I've made were in a pressure cooker. Tender through and separate, not mushy.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 03:00 PM
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31. Try dealing with imported food.
Our Italian and pizza carry-out used canned, imported Roma tomatoes from Italy, for our sauce. We're using California now. The dollar-euro was killing us. Not to mention the prices of flour and cheese.

Calamari? Forget it. We stopped making it. It became a loss leader. As did chicken wings.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 12:29 PM
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64. Which brand?
I do my own canned Romas, but I didn't make enough to get us through. Which brand do you recommend that actually taste good?
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 04:44 PM
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34. I have become somewhat of a coupon/sale ad maniac in the past 6 months
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 04:44 PM by WakeMeUp
If it isn't on sale and/or I don't have a coupon, I don't buy it. We bought a small chest freezer so that we can stock up on sales. I'm considering making my own mixes (lots of books and resources on that) and we are planting a garden for the first time since we have been married (7 1/2 years, yep, a total Bush-era marriage x( ). I go to second-hand stores for my daughters clothes and I haven't bought a new piece of clothing for almost two years. I'm hoping we don't need any wheelbarrows anytime soon.
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Snarkoleptic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:40 PM
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39. "Surging costs of groceries hit home"
See, the surge is working.
Should have listened to the RW when they first began parroting their latest success!
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:56 PM
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42. And using corn to put into our
cars is just stupid. People are going to have to learn how to cook all over again.

I worked with a young mother...she and her husband were in a tizzy because their child was close to the age where he could eat 'real' food. They didn't have a clue as to how to fix anything for him. They live on frozen pizzas, frozen dinners....highly processed foods loaded with salt and sugar. She was considerably overweight with a horrid complexion. You could tell the only vegetable she consumed were french fries.

I told her to go to the library where there would be tons of books on the subject. This thought had not crossed her mind. What is happening? Maybe it's all those preservatives, nitrates, and nitrates in the food that is zapping everyone's common sense???

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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:26 PM
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67. I'm 26 and just about everyone I know is like that
One friend of mine is utterly helpless in the kitchen to the point where if it can't be microwaved, she doesn't know what to do with it. Fortunately her roommate knows how to cook or she'd be screwn.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:00 PM
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44. Rising food prices are related to rising energy prices.
Oil is used to make food and to distribute it. Also, growing biofuel feedstocks has displaced some land that can be used for growing food, which tightens supply more, raising the cost. It's all related.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:36 PM
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79. Yupper. As gasline goes up, or oil/barrel, everything has to go up too. n/t
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wildeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:07 PM
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45. Let them eat cake. n/t
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:01 PM
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50. Grow your own, even in small spaces!
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:54 PM
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52. the talking heads....................
have no clue how many of us are to being destitute and begging for food, and potentially shelter, if this horrible economic crisis continues.....


there are millions of people NOT living paycheck to paycheck who are skimping at every turn...


it's getting ugly folks.

wonder if we could make a DU food conglomerate that could buy bulk foods to save money? or could I/we join one? Any in Florida?
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:53 PM
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53. Oh, duh....let us eat cake! n/t
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ajamo Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:21 PM
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69. Tomato cost
I happened to go in the store with the wife today and saw the price of tomatoes to be $2.69 per pound. I picked up one of those Florida apples, and it weighed in about $2.50 each.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:35 PM
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71. Holy crap, wheat and soy prices are bad!
Now that explains alot, thanks for the post.
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tucsonlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:40 PM
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75. Then There's Pet Food......
Anyone else notice that right after the poisoned pet food scare, prices nearly DOUBLED?
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:35 PM
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78. We cook for our dogs-easy,healthy and inexpensive.
We buy ground meat: what ever is on sale. chicken, turkey, pork,beef.

2 lbs of meat, often in combo. (beef and pork or turkey and pork,etc)
1 box of rice
1 bag of some type of pasta
1-2 bags of snap frozen mixed veggies.

1 large pot of boiing water.
Throw everything in and 45 minutes later we have enough of healthy, much less expensive dog food, for 2 dogs who eat three times day and this lasts five days!

The rule is 1/3 meat, 1/3 carbs, 1/3 veggies.

The dogs look good especially the middle aged guy. Oh, we add some dry kibbles, good quality, like Science diet cause they need curnchy stuff too.

But cooking for them is really easy.

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tucsonlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:12 AM
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80. That's Great! But...
I have 2 finicky cats. Got a recipe for them?
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:33 AM
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81. Ugh=cats! We tried, there are internet sites that show sample cat diets
they were bery finicky, they didn't like chicken gibblets, livers???I thought all cats liked livers.

So, we have 9 cats, and we still dry and wet in cans.

But check it for cats maybe you will have luck.
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:18 PM
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76. Might Be A Blessing In Disguise
Okay, don't dogpile on me just yet.

It got me thinking about the possible demise of the fast food restaurant as we know it, the involvement of the entire family in nutrition, creative cooking, and maybe working that backyard garden some of you were talking about, or perhaps establishing neighborhood cooperatives. Planning and packing school lunches. Inroads made against obesity and disease with increased care taken to eat a nutritious diet and the effort expended to grow and prepare the food.

I don't like the surge in prices. I may not be able to do much about the price of the major commodities. But I don't have to approach the changes they might bring to my lifestyle as insurmountable.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:33 PM
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77. So, back in 1999-early 2000, who thought by 2008 we'd have to deal with stagflation?
I am amazed at how thoroughly and completely this country and the world has been screwed up in the last 8 years.
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