does anyone here feel the North American Union is real ?

[blues90]

I do but no one talks about it anymore that I have found and I have heard a few Liberal talk show hosts shrug it off as impossible none sense .

[pbca]

1. It will never come to pass on this side of the border

anything that smells of North American Union goes down in flames here.

[salin]

2. No, I do not believe it is real.

[UTUSN]

3. Jerome CORSI does. 'member him? Swift-botted JK? Frequent guest on George NOORY's (Art BELL) circus?

And co-author with the Minutemen? By their fruits (and birds of a feather) ...


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http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=14965

North American Union to Replace USA?

by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted May 19, 2006

.... President Bush intends to abrogate U.S. sovereignty to the North American Union, a new economic and political entity which the President is quietly forming, much as the European Union has formed.

The blueprint President Bush is following was laid out in a 2005 report entitled "Building a North American Community" published by the left-of-center Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The CFR report connects the dots between the Bush administration's actual policy on illegal immigration and the drive to create the North American Union: ....


http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15497

Bush Administration Quietly Plans NAFTA Super Highway

by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted Jun 12, 2006

.... A good reason Bush does not want to secure the border with Mexico may be that the administration is trying to create express lanes for Mexican trucks to bring containers with cheap Far East goods into the heart of the U.S., all without the involvement of any U.S. union workers on the docks or in the trucks.

Mr. Corsi is the author of several books, including "Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry" (along with John O'Neill), "Black Gold Stranglehold: The Myth of Scarcity and the Politics of Oil" (along with Craig R. Smith), and "Atomic Iran: How the Terrorist Regime Bought the Bomb and American Politicians." He is a frequent guest on the G. Gordon Liddy radio show. He will soon co-author a new book with Jim Gilchrist on the Minuteman Project.

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15623

North American Union Would Trump U.S. Supreme Court

by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted Jun 19, 2006

The Bush Administration is pushing to create a North American Union out of the work on-going in the Department of Commerce under the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America in the NAFTA office headed by Geri Word. A key part of the plan is to expand the NAFTA tribunals into a North American Union court system that would have supremacy over all U.S. law, even over the U.S. Supreme Court, in any matter related to the trilateral political and economic integration of the United States, Canada and Mexico. ....

http://www.wnd.com/news/archives.asp?AUTHOR_ID=246

Coming soon to U.S.: Mexican customs office

Monday, June 05, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- Kansas City is planning to allow the Mexican government to open a Mexican customs office in conjunction with the Kansas City SmartPort. This will be the first foreign customs facility allowed to operate on U.S. soil.

Southern border blurs for global trade

Thursday, June 01, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- The Texas segment of the NAFTA Super Corridor is moving rapidly toward approval. When built, the Trans-Texas Corridor, or TTC, will be a major super-highway with six lanes mo ...

Bush border policy linked to Carlyle deal?

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- In January 2004, the Carlyle Group put together a new team to begin investing in Mexico. The team consisted of Luis T鬬ez, who was then an executive vice president of Desc, one of Mexico's larges ...

Immigration reform spells death for GOP

Friday, May 19, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- To measure what exactly the Senate is doing in putting together a "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" bill, we have to ask what is going to change after the bill is passed: No illegal immigrant currently in the United Stat ...

Border fence will never be built

Thursday, May 18, 2006 by Jerome R. Corsi -- The Senate voted to approve the amendment submitted by Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., to build a 370-mile section of triple-layered fence along the Mexican border. Now the Bush administration is trying to push this as a victory for conservative ...


http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060010

MMFA investigates: Who is Jerome Corsi, co-author of Swift Boat Vets attack book?

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• Corsi on Islam: "a worthless, dangerous Satanic religion"

• Corsi on Catholicism: "Boy buggering in both Islam and Catholicism is okay with the Pope as long as it isn't reported by the liberal press"

• Corsi on Muslims: "RAGHEADS are Boy-Bumpers as clearly as they are Women-Haters -- it all goes together"

• Corsi on "John F*ing Commie Kerry": "After he married TerRAHsa, didn't John Kerry begin practicing Judiasm? He also has paternal grandparents that were Jewish. What religion is John Kerry?"

• Corsi on Senator "FAT HOG" Clinton: "Anybody ask why HELLary couldn't keep BJ Bill satisfied? Not lesbo or anything, is she?" ....

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[northzax]

17. the eu was 'quiet'?

Now there's a guy who knows his history!

[flashl]

4. Not sure, but the Transatlantic Partnership is real ...

US and EU agree 'single market'

The United States and the European Union have signed up to a new transatlantic economic partnership at a summit in Washington.

The pact is designed to boost trade and investment by harmonising regulatory standards, laying the basis for a US-EU single market.

The two sides also signed an Open Skies deal, designed to reduce fares and boost traffic on transatlantic flights.

...

Richest regions

Economics rather than the environment or politics was the focus of the summit, says the BBC's Europe correspondent, Jonny Dymond, from Washington.

The two sides agreed to set up an "economic council" to push ahead with regulatory convergence in nearly 40 areas, including intellectual property, financial services, business takeovers and the motor industry.

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The Transatlantic Partnership

Working together during the last 60 years, the United States and the countries of Western Europe have reshaped the world: strengthening global peace and security, preserving and promoting democracy, opening up trade and promoting higher standards of living for more people, in more countries, more quickly than at any time in history.

In December 1995, the two sides signed a practical, step by step work plan: the New Transatlantic Agenda. In it, they pledged close collaboration to:

- promote peace and stability, democracy and development;
- expand world trade;
- grow their own commercial ties and build bridges between industries, companies and peoples in Europe and the US;
- respond to new global challenges like drug trafficking and terrorism.

The transatlantic partnership is now looking to the future. There has been renewed interest to strengthen the EU/US relationship, as shown by the visit of President Bush in February 2005 to the EU institutions, the first US President to do so. As a result, there is a growing impetus to remove the remaining barriers to trade and investment through the Transatlantic Economic Initiative (2005) as well to increasingly work together to face global challenges. Detailed conclusions agreed at the recent US-EU Summits testify to this deepening relationship

Do you think after 'we' have align regulations, laws, commerce, etc. with the EU that 'we' should still celebrate 'Independence Day'?

[FarCenter]

6. The "Transatlantic Relationship" is bogus; the "English-speaking Special Relationship" is real

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01/17/fbi_uk_dna_database_plans_followup/

UK.gov says no plans for FBI DNA database hookup

What do you mean when you say 'plan'?

By Lewis Page

Thursday 17th January 2008 10:11 GMT

The agency responsible for UK's police databases has insisted there are no plans to give overseas law-enforcement agencies automated access to British biometrics. Not yet, anyway.

The so-called "Server in the Sky" plans which have made news in recent days supposedly would allow US agencies direct access to biometric information held in UK databases.

But the National Policing Improvement Agency (NPIA), which is responsible for the Police National Computer, the national DNA database and IDENT1 (the British fingerprint and palmprint files) told the Reg there had been no discussions about the plan.

The idea of "Server in the Sky" is that the traditional intelligence/security axis run by the Anglophone nations of the former British empire - the US, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand - would be extended into regular law enforcement. Most significantly perhaps, the cooperation might go as far as the interlinking of national biometrics databases. An FBI agent on a case might be able to check DNA from a crime scene and get a hit from the UK database, for instance. Or a British plod might likewise get one from the States, though America holds much less data.

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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01/15/uk_biometrics_us_canada_aus_independence_waste/

FBI to get UK biometric database hookup?

1776 continues to cost money

By Lewis Page

Published Tuesday 15th January 2008 13:54 GMT

The list of police and security forces which can gain automated access to UK law-enforcement biometric databases may be set to widen, according to reports.

The national databases of the US, UK, Australia, Canada and New Zealand could be interlinked, under the so-called "Server in the Sky" initiative, the Times and the Guardian report today.

The five English-speaking nations already cooperate very closely on intelligence and security matters, with the UK SIS and Security Service (MI6 and MI5) routinely sharing information with their counterparts. There is little doubt that this sometimes includes biometric information or checks requested via police special-branch channels.

The UK's biometric databases may also soon be accessible by other European Union law-enforcement authorities, under protocols agreed last year.

Now, however, there is a plan to let the UK's trusted former colonies have routine law-enforcement access just as EU plods will, rather than needing to make individual requests as they already do or use spook channels.

The Guardian quotes an FBI spokesman as saying of "Server in the Sky":

Once complete it will provide a technical forum for member nations to submit biometric search requests to other nations. It will maintain a core holding of the world’s worst-of-the-worst individuals. Any identifications of these people will be sent as a priority message to the requesting nation.

It appears that the US is leading the initiative - which is curious as the original 1776 split between American and British jurisdiction was their idea.

...

[flashl]

11. I understand your point about the biometric database. How will that alone render

transatlantic partnership moot?

Continuation from "US and EU agree 'single market'" article ..

The Open Skies agreement will take effect on 30 March 2008 and will allow EU carriers to fly to anywhere in the US and vice versa.

The deal promises to lower airfares and widen choice for passengers on both sides of the Atlantic.

The EU hopes to go further and create an "Open Aviation Area" between the two sides "in which investment can flow freely and in which European and US airlines can provide air services without any restriction," said a EU statement.

The EU is also hoping that the US will agree to withdraw its visa requirement for travellers from a number of EU states.

[FarCenter]

15. The Special Relationhip is at the Highest Levels

The US, UK, Australia, Canada and New Zealand are closely linked at the highest levels with respect to signals intelligence and covert activities. This goes back to WW II.

Trade agreements are minor by comparison.

[flashl]

16. Thanks. nt

[Warpy]

5. Even if they ram it down our throats

it won't last long. We all prefer our own countries, thanks.

[EFerrari]

7. No. It's not gonna happen. n/t

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

8. No. But, I wish Canada would accept WA as one of it's provinces.

I'll even promise to say "eh" and pretend to like hockey.

[JohnyCanuck]

9. But will you learn French?

Oh, wait, never mind. Most Canadians can't be bothered to learn the other official language either.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

12. Qui! At least some of the obligatory profanities.

Handy in any language, especially when dealing with bubble-wrap, computers, or politicians.

[Captain Angry]

10. If the NAU had to follow the same rules for entry that the EU have...

The USA would never be allowed in. The EU has strict debt guidelines that we couldn't meet even if we cut it in half next week. Mexico would have entry problems too. So only Canada would be a founding member.

The ability for labor and products to travel country to country without tariffs and taxes being imposed does help move goods to new markets.

Very few people living in the EU consider themselves members of the EU, but citizens of their home country. The currency changed, but there are still versions of the Euro in each member country to maintain a little sovereignty.

EU member countries still retain their own law systems, so really, only trade and travel between EU members is much easier.

It would be a very interesting transition. The Europeans were able to pull it off and they had many more languages and exchange rates to deal with. We have 2-3 major languages, 3 exchange rates, etc.

[Bright Eyes]

13. No. It's not going to happen.

[Vincardog]

14. They are already starting to implement pieces of it. Google The Trans Texas Corridor and Mexican

Trucks being allowed free reign on US roads.

[Warren DeMontague]

18. It's coming with the black UN helicopters that are going to force us to worship the Anti-Christ..

They're going to force our virginal daughters to put condoms on bananas.. It all started when the Supreme Court took Jesus out of our schools- then Hil'Ry Clinton hung those crack pipes on the White House Xmas tree, and it was all over.

I don't understand why more people aren't aware of this threat to our precious bodily fluids.

...:crazy:

[lovuian]

19. Oh ya its REAL and coming

Dollar is going to crash and the Amero is coming
its all about the New World Order

[Warren DeMontague]

20. Is that before, or after, the mystery satan planet on the 3,600 yr. orbit delivers the Biblical

"end times"?

:shrug:

Sorry, sometimes I have trouble keeping my woo-woo conspiracy nonsense straight.

[Laurier]

21. No.

It's a load of conspiracy fantasist BS and nothing more.

(Edited to add the body of the post after inadvertently posting with only the subject line.)