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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 12:54 PM
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Breaking: Massive Domestic Spying Uncovered-TPM: Here's The Way The Whole Thing Works
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 12:55 PM by kpete
Breaking: Massive Domestic Spying Uncovered

Today's Must Read
By Paul Kiel - March 10, 2008, 9:45AM

It is the closest thing I've seen to a complete explanation of the surveillance program the Bush Administration has assembled.

Siobhan Gorman of The Wall Street Journal reports this morning that the National Security Agency has assembled what some intelligence officials admit is a driftnet for domestic and foreign communications.

Here's the way the whole thing works, according to Gorman: into the NSA's massive database goes data collected by the Justice Department, Department of Homeland Security, and the Department of Treasury. This information includes data about email (recipient and sender address, subject, time sent), internet searches (sites visited and searches conducted), phone calls (incoming and outgoing numbers, length of call, location), financial information (wire transfers, credit-card use, information about bank accounts), and information from the DHS about airline passengers.

Then the NSA's software analyzes this data for indications of terrorist activity. When it hits upon a suspicious pattern, the NSA "feeds its findings into the effort the administration calls the Terrorist Surveillance Program and shares some of that information with other U.S. security agencies.”

much more at:
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/todays_must_read_292.php
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 12:56 PM
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1. as i suspected...we're all terrorists until proven innocent
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 12:59 PM
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4. Land of the free, home of the brave....hmmmf. Isn't this a fine howdy-do!
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:00 PM
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35. Land of TV, Home of the Slave - THAT is where we live now.
No getting around that unpleasant truth.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:17 AM
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104. it is just going to get alot worse if we do not do something.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:30 PM
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63. Perhaps they're more afraid of an angry electorate than many suspect
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:18 AM
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105. .........
:thumbsup:
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:07 PM
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69. First 'big' catch way prodigal husband Gov Spitzer !!! Break out the champagne, NSA
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:22 AM
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93. Exactly! "Anonymous government sources gave a tip...."
This is their end game on maintaining power, get dirt on EVERYONE.

Then again, what the FUCK was Spitzer thinking man? Doesn't he realize what an enemy he is to the establishment? No matter how perverted he may feel doesn't he realize his shit is being tapped by the NSA? Idiot.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 12:58 PM
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2. Firmly believe it is NOT about terrorists and ALL about blackmailing those in any position of power
and then just for marketing research for the corporations on the rest of us.

Notice that more spam seems to include words that relate to things you look at online? You think that is just a co-inky-dink? ;)

Blackmail for any who may be a threat to the top 1% and a big ol focus group marketing ploy for the rest of us.

But, yeah, IT IS ILLEGAL and I want people in prison for it!
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:03 PM
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6. Exactly -- goes along with the Bush Crime Family's method of controlling people
Formerly, they had their pedophilia/male sex ring to collect dirt on people and use it to blackmail them into servitude. They can't do that to most people, however, so Little George came up with his system.

The Bush crime family must be prosecuted and imprisoned as the criminal syndicate they are.
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:05 AM
Response to Reply #6
103. Ohhh ... that's how ...

Oh, so that's how they transformed McCain from a Maverick into a lapdog.

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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 04:52 PM
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125. Precisely -- that's how they always do it
Do a search for "John DeCamp" and read about the Bush male prostitution ring they ran out of Boy's Town.
They had a system for setting up politicians. Those they can't buy off or scare off, they kill.
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againes654 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:04 PM
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10. It is more than blackmail
although I am sure that is a convenient side effect. This is a MAJOR step toward a fascist society. Along with paramilitary organizations like blackwater, and secret prisons like Abu Ghraib, and Gitmo.



:hide:
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:07 PM
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13. YEP-STRAIGHT OUT OF J EDGAR HOOVER'S PLAY BOOK BUT ON A MUCH GRANDER LEVEL!
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:35 PM
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22. cheney is J Edgar with bigger computers
and maybe fewer dresses
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:35 PM
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23. You just hit the nail on the head.
It is my firm belief that Chertoff is positioning himself to become The Eternal Washingtonian. To last through multiple administrations by hoarding as much dirt as possible on everyone he can, especially politicians. One of the tells on that is the credit information. This can be used to smear a candidate very effectively, as can banking information.

One of the things a new congress and president must do is get Chertoff out of that office and run a complete system-wide audit on what they are doing and how they are dealing with that data.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:56 PM
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33. NO more sweeping shit under the rug (ala Bill Clinton & BCCI/BFEE) Full exposure
or it will just re-surface at a later date worse than before!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:53 AM
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113. Exactly in line with what I believe ever since Chertoff popped up at Homeland Security.
.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:50 AM
Response to Reply #13
112. Remember Promis software and the deaths of those trying to unravel that case.
.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:11 PM
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17. Don't leave out corporate spying.
I remember when Frist, Hastert, and Delay all had day-traders installed in their offices at the Capital.

Lots and lots of insider information for sale!
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:34 PM
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21. I don't ALL things done now are done at the behest of the corporations
There are no nations nor national laws. All is corporate policy and corporate warfare.
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:20 PM
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48. technically, it's not insider trading...
through a wonderful loophole in the insider trading laws, congressman (and women) may exchange private, or insider, information with corporations in which there is a bill up for consideration. So pretty much, congressman can get inside info from say, the SEC, and give it to their corporate cronies. Awesome sytem, isn't it?
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:23 AM
Response to Reply #48
99. It is because of loopholes like that that we need Edwards, not Hillary, not Obama.
We've really missed the biggest opportunity for good, clean government that we have had for a very, very long time.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:26 AM
Response to Reply #99
106. yes we did, they (media manipulation) propagandized
this campaign. sickening
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lark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #99
115. I so agree that
neither Hillary or Obama will bring about fundamental changes that are needed, they are too indebted to the powers that be. They are both, however, better than "all war all the time" McCain. Although with his values of not counting people's votes, Obama is still my last choice of anyone who's a D. "R's" are beyond consideration.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:46 PM
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28. Amen.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:14 PM
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59. Absolutely. I do research on the net for a story I'm writing and I even
have one of the medical websites I googled calling me every morning. It's bizarre.

And, in my story I wrote the word, "business card," on two separate occasions and seconds later, in came spam for "business cards."
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:48 AM
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96. Not only blackmail. There's also the "Spitzer Option" ... destroy the guy, like Hoover was trying to
do with MLK Jr... only the bullets got him first.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:31 PM
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124. Yep. You and I deserve fair representation. If our reps know they're spied on, who do they work for?
Us or the guys with the spy files?

It undermines the very foundation of democracy!
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lark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:32 PM
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114. Exactly
If it was about terrorism, then why did they implement wiretapping Americans in this country prior to 9/11? Because it's got little to nothing to do with terrorism and all to do with retaining political control by sliming anyone of the opposition.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 12:58 PM
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3. This is going to be the court cases for the next 20 years.
It will be argued that going online amounts to going into public. It isn't secure. I think all digital communications will be redefined.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:02 PM
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5. I wonder if clicking on DU counts towards your likelihood of being a terra-ist. nt
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:10 PM
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16. hell, visiting ebay probably is considered terroristic.
you never know what people are really brewing up in those used crockpots and popcorn makers. ;-)
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sentelle Donating Member (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:03 PM
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7. I guess it depends on who are the terrorists
and who gets the right to call an organization a terrorist one.

FWIR, that matter is up to the judgement of the President or the AG alone.

Does that mean that the DNC can be declared a terrorist organisation? who says they haven't? Moreover, the lapdog Dem's have them the legal right.

What dirt might the government have on some of the pols on this side... is that why impeachment is off the table?
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:04 PM
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8. So when a Senator calls an escort service, he can be blackmailed? I am shocked, I tell you.
No wonder there is no impeachment.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:07 PM
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37. Ding Ding Ding, we have a winnah!
if they're monitoring every website & search done, that's got to scare the shit out of a lot of politicians and others.
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Drops_not_Dope Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:22 PM
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75. monitoring every website & search done
Not likely.

If however you were interested in, let's say politics and used the goggle a lot, you might be suspect.

If the pattern of your searches brought up as an example Bush and/or Cheney, your usage could invite some analysis.

I'm guessing but probably all web usage destinations involving government is combed.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:10 PM
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70. Check date of MSNBC's story on Watergate hooker ring...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12634250

They break Spitzer's story but this one is allowed to languish for years.

Why ?

"It's all part of a growing ongoing investigation into corruption in defense and intelligence contracts, which already has sent former Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham to prison and, legal sources say, may threaten others in Congress and the CIA. "

So, who ARE these 'others' in Congress and the CIA ? Bushco knows.
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:41 PM
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72. I wonder if this thing with Spitzer came out today becasue it was a bad day in Iraq.
I wonder if they'll take down a different senator or congressmen everytime * wants to hide news from us.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:36 PM
Response to Reply #72
76. Absolutely.....they are good at bait and switch....
they won't be able to bait and swithc the approaching 4000th casualty.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:29 AM
Response to Reply #72
107. everyday is a bad day in Iraq.
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 09:30 AM by alyce douglas
:-(
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:10 PM
Response to Reply #8
88. A small price to pay for free porn and "dating" services?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:44 PM
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116. An argument for electing more women to office, I guess....! NT
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:04 PM
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9. Sounds like the film
Brazil where the wrong guy gets killed by the security police due to a paperwork glitch at the Ministry who hold all such information.

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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:08 PM
Response to Reply #9
14. Ha. I just watched thar last night.
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 01:08 PM by Arctic Dave
I haven't seen it in years.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:08 PM
Response to Reply #9
15. My favorite dark comedy ever
Definitely recommended viewing for everyone that hasn't already seen it.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:29 PM
Response to Reply #15
18. What is the name of the movie? Thanks!
:hi:
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:50 PM
Response to Reply #18
31. Brazil.
One of Terry Gilliam's flicks. Very dark and dry.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #31
45. Thanks
:hi:
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mojowork_n Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #18
46. In case you missed it, will be repeated 3/17, on HBO n/t
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:12 PM
Response to Reply #9
38. Deniro as a guerilla HVAC repairman is worth watching alone!
That has to be one of the funniest scenes in film.

-Hoot
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:53 PM
Response to Reply #38
90. Harry Tuttle, he's the one the government was trying to arrest, but they
ended up getting Harry "Buttle" because an insect fell into the printer.

I love that character!

"I came into this game for the action, the excitement. Go anywhere, travel light, get in, get out, wherever there's trouble, a man alone."
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:05 PM
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11. I think I know the name of this game.
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 01:10 PM by Arctic Dave
It's called national wild goose chase or governmental snipe hunt or we don't have a f'in clue what to do, so make everybody a ter'ist.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:06 PM
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12. The Gov't must be able to destroy any right of privacy or due process so that the country can
can be saved from terrorists.
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postulater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:31 PM
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19. Probably how they caught Spitzer.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:45 PM
Response to Reply #19
27. Yep - I bet the blackmail reaches thoughout the entire system: no wonder no impeachment

Gross
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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:32 PM
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20. I just watched "Enemy of the State" again a few days ago.
Watch it, if you haven't. It was made during Clinton's time. Very chilling.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:39 PM
Response to Reply #20
24. Did you notice the birthday of the lead villain behind the illegal wiretapping
was 9/11/40 when Hackman and Smith pulled his profile up on the computer? Other people, including Wikipedia have said this was because it was the birthday of some real life computer guru, but I thought it was fascinating nonetheless.
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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:45 PM
Response to Reply #24
42. I noticed the 1940 part because that's my birthyear too, but not the 9/11 part
How interesting.
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:42 PM
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25. speaking of spitzer....
will anyone see this spy story when news is gonna be all-spitzer, all-the-time?
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:26 AM
Response to Reply #25
100. It is probably one and the same story.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:17 PM
Response to Reply #100
121. You think FBI released info on Spitzer to cover up TPM story (exposing warrantless wiretap program)?
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 01:20 PM by Leopolds Ghost
After all, Spitzer is unindicted in this probe... and no
other high-profile johns have been rooted out or named.

Maybe they should be!!!

Anyone up for a little muckraking? The easiest way to destroy a
blackmail operation is to air out the truth and uncover the names
of all the other high-profile johns that were being targeted.

Similarly,

perhaps if the gov't has the right to read our private e-mail,
everyone else does too.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 05:48 PM
Response to Reply #121
126. Spitzer was Client No. 9 only. I wonder if this could have been entrapment
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 05:57 PM by JDPriestly
of some sort. No evidence, but if I were his lawyer, I'd be asking some serious questions and doing some serious investigation. This is a really bizarre story.

Eliot Spitzer is extremely wealthy, and so the expenditure was not disproportionate to his wealth. It's odd that it would have been viewed as suspect by the IRS. His wife probably spends that kind of money on her clothes, hair, skin, face, etc. frequently. Most of us have no idea how the other half lives. For us spending $4,000 is a huge deal. But that is not a huge amount for very wealthy people.

I should ad that entrapment probably would not constitute a legal defense here, but that depends on the circumstances. After all, Spitzer knew what he was getting into and that it was illegal. Nevertheless, if he was one of very few clients and someone in the organization was a police informant, Spitzer's lawyers may be able to get a lot of sympathy for him and cast still more shadows on the Justice Department. There is this huge question about who the other patrons of this service.

I have suspected that the Bushies are eavesdropping on Democrats and then extorting their support in the Bushies' efforts. I just hope that one of the Democrats gets the courage to stand up to them sooner or later.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:45 PM
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26. This should be at the top of DU - more important the Rove being heckled
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:48 PM
Response to Reply #26
30. I've already recommended it once and DU. won't let me do it again, maybe I should kick it? n/t
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 01:49 PM by Uncle Joe
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:48 PM
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29. I would love to see the 'parameter' set up to detect suspicious patterns

One can only imagine....

Liberal sites

Peace groups

Advocacy meetings

We are now a fascist state.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 03:46 PM
Response to Reply #29
44. Exactly, it is the groups that want us out of Iraq that are labelled...

as being terrorist. Yet, Congresspeople can work deals involving heroin smuggling and the AQ Khan nuclear network and they are considered part of the Club.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:32 PM
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51. Like they can't req specific info on specific targets? Yeah, right.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:51 PM
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32. Real conservatives (not republicons) will be outraged at this infringement of...
the basic Constitutional right to privacy. Republicons (aka Totalitarians) love it because they think it helps stamp out democracy and the American Way.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:57 PM
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34. I wonder if this is why the Spitzer revelations just surfaced.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:04 PM
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36. Could be.
:shrug:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:23 PM
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39. Heh you were right!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:24 PM
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40. Heh you were right!
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:30 PM
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41. When do they call it Marital Law? Kick, Nom and Bookmarked.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:59 PM
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67. You Need a Ceremony for Marital Law--& Just a Pretext For Martial Law
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:24 PM
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122. What would you call 9/11 that's a pretty good Ceremony. The Dictator has destroyed the Constitution
and will do more damage before he leaves.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 03:34 PM
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43. Final kick for the night crowd. n/t
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:17 PM
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47. Where is Y2K when you need it? Argh!
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:27 PM
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49. k&r! nt
:hi:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:27 PM
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50. Kicking for more recs... Gotta move this puppy up the line!. . .n/t
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:01 PM
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52. K&R
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:01 PM
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53. making sure they can spy on the dems & all their domestic
political enemies.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:06 PM
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54. and they still haven't caught Osama Bin Laden
what are they wasting time on following domestic spying when they could be catching real terrorists
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:34 AM
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108. maybe we are more of a threat to them.
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 09:37 AM by alyce douglas
wouldn't you love to give them a reason for that.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:22 PM
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55. WE ought to be spamming the NSA like crazy. nt
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meowomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:14 PM
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89. I send friendly email greetings to Al Jazeera from time to time.
Just to fuck with the crazies at the NSA.
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trthnd4jstc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:13 AM
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98. I think that W is now responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands.
It is amazing how similar the two psychopaths look!
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:28 PM
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56. Your post is much appreciated.
I've been trying to figure out for years how this works.

How do they link an internet search to an individual. One of my interests is seeing what people are performing searches on, and I've seen all sorts of crazy inquiries into uranium, bomb-making, etc...

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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:19 PM
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80. It is quite easy to link a internet search to an individual...
or rather, an individual IP address. For a business, this may mean a certain block of IP's, for an individual household it is usually a static IP assigned by the carrier.

Ok, so now we have a IP, assigned to an individual or business. Now we need to pin the person, since every server out there does IP logging we can deduce that they have the IP that is responsible for a series of searches. The IP, as already mentioned is assigned to a household or a business. A few more probes and it is very likely that somewhere along the line, especially if you use Microsoft products, they may even be able to glean an email address and possibly a name. Outlook and Explorer sometimes cache this stuff and make it readily available to friendly perusing. Most spam and spyware software will prevent this, but you can bet that within a given timeframe the NSA gets the info they want. I could go into more detail... One tip: get rid of MS products for perusing the net and you might be a little better off. There are also some pretty good stealth product out there...but then again you might have to google for them...

Peace
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:56 PM
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57. You people simply don't understand the value of the surveillance program.
How, for example, would we know about Spitzer's interlude with a prostitute if it weren't for illegal wiretapping? :sarcasm:
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:09 PM
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58.  kpete
kpete

This is bad.. But the funny thing is that even KGB, and the Old USSR, would never manage to do what US today is doing, on their own people. This is something KGB, and the spies in old USSR would just manage to DREAM in wet dreams.. The scope of this is worse than Soviet would ever managed to do.... And dear do to even with the all powerfully KGB..

And this is happening in The Land of the free, the land of the brave...

You are NOT longer free.. And Brave?:.. IF You have been that brave, this would never have happend.... You would have fighted this evil.... Better to se the last episode of Lost, and follow the next gossip, from Hollywood I guess..


Diclotican

Sorry my bad English, not my native language
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:46 PM
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82. Land of TV, Home of the Slave
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 09:47 PM by davekriss
(Someone said that earlier either on this thread, or on another tonight. I thought that was too good so I post it here! -- on edit, it was the good Tom Paine on post #35...)
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 03:35 AM
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101. davekriss
davekriss

And I believe mr Tom Pain in post nr 35 nailed it pretty vell to... I really hope our little nation never to be slave of the TV, land om the slave...

Orwell, and 1984 would be proud of what US are becoming now.... I guess even old Stalin would be admirable when it come to how US have become.. He was a man who was treating their subject as cattle, but even HE wold not do what US are doing today.. And that really scare me..

Diclotican

Sorry my bad English, not my native language
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:15 PM
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60. And what is a 'terrorist
pattern?'

An email with the subject of: "Impeach Bush?"
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:17 PM
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61. Sounds As Stupid as Star Wars Did
a fucking waste of money and is an affront to the Constitution and our civil liberties.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:20 PM
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62. HOW THEY GOT SPITZER:
It Wasn't the Sex; Suspicious $$ Transfers Led to Spitzer

The federal investigation of a New York prostitution ring was triggered by Gov. Eliot Spitzer's suspicious money transfers, initially leading agents to believe Spitzer was hiding bribes, according to federal officials.

Political Sex Scandals ReduxIt was only months later that the IRS and the FBI determined that Spitzer wasn't hiding bribes but payments to a company called QAT, what prosecutors say is a prostitution operation operating under the name of the Emperors Club.

...

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4424507&page=1
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trthnd4jstc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:43 PM
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64. The Fourth Amendment to Our Constitution.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:48 PM
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65. New Rule: We'll analysis your data to death until we uncover your secrets.
And it's all YOUR fault if we find anything because we'll invent an alert citizen who "turned you in."

Investigation is easy when you know where to look...
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:26 PM
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123. Note that probable cause has to come before any search --
and SC makes clear papers & effects includes all forms of
correspondence in which there is an assumption of privacy.

The 4th amendment is clear.
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:52 PM
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66. k & r thanks for this n/t
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SleeplessinSoCal Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:06 PM
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68. Is this the same program that wiretapped Spitzer?
"The wiretap captured a man identified as Client 9 on a telephone call confirming plans to have a woman travel from New York to Washington, where he had reserved a hotel room, according to an affidavit filed in federal court in Manhattan. The person briefed on the case and the law enforcement official identified Mr. Spitzer as Client 9."
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:13 PM
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71. Spitzer needs to ask about the warrant this wiretap was started with
Is this a 'terror' related one ? Looks that way. Terrorize any DEMOCRAT you can find seems to be the operating principle.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:45 PM
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73. He knows if you've been sleeping, he knows if you're awake...
he knows if you've been bad or good, so you better be good for goodness sake
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:09 PM
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74. And after the crimes are identified, the perpetrator's political affiliation is examined
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 08:09 PM by Canuckistanian
And then, decisions are made as to whether to refer the evidence to the "Just-Us" department.

Just like Elliot Spitzer.

Sweet set-up.

I'll bet Hillary can't wait to get her hands on this.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:46 PM
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77. Well...
I'm certainly not the one who will bet against you on this.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:10 PM
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78. Well, duh.
How is this a revelation?
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:18 PM
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79. and how many terrorist have they caught with this

Massive invasion of privacy.

ZERO

1

2

3

how many.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:21 PM
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81. They can use that thing for whatever reason their sick little
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 09:22 PM by Texas Explorer
criminally insane minds can fathom, including nmonitoring the business and moves of every last Democratic candidate, office holder, or operative in this country.

So, what the fuck are you hiding Nancy?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:51 PM
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83. Obviously, sexual misbehavior by Dems would be a primary concern for GOP surveillance ---
while keeping the Cunningham investigation as covered up as possible ---
Carol Lam FIRED --- if I recall correctly she was investigating the CA end of this?

Hard to think that they didn't target ole Elliot Spitzer . . . the idiot!!!
How does a former DA not get it?

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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:52 PM
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85. I thought the same thing. Were they monitoring his calls?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 10:19 PM
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86. Right -- that would have been the easiest way ---
then you can back-track the story to the money . . .

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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:52 PM
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84. This is "Total Information Awareness" by a different name. Congress should be shitting bricks.
They defunded that. That means this program should not exist. The only reason it still does is because the administration is refusing to turn over info. However as I posted in my recent journal, whistle blowers will inevitably step forward. That is why the administration is so desperate to close of the civil liability compensation that would make it possible for whistle blowers to lose their jobs and risk harassment to bring the truth to light.

My journal:http://journals.democraticunderground.com/McCamy%20Taylor/154

"Calling All Telecom and NSA Employees: Can a Whistleblower/Patriot Bring Us Enemies List II?"

If you are serious about stopping this practice, please spread the word that telecom employees and NSA employees who know anything about it and who care about the Constitution need to come forward. I don't know if it is a coincidence or not, but since I wrote this, I have heard of three people (these two NSA employees and one telecom employee) besides the original telecom employee who have spoken up.

Spread the word. Whistle blowers are patriots. If people talk, then Congress will not grant immunity. Immunity is the Bush tool for shutting down whistle blowers.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:00 PM
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127. The Democrats are quaking in their boots, scared that
what the Republicans have done to Spitzer and what Democrats did to some of the Republicans will happen to him.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 10:46 PM
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87. Everyone should start sending garbled emails with key words like
bin laden, al qaeda, bush, bomb, iraq, etc.

we'd drive them nuts and it would stop their invasions of our privacy.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:55 PM
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91. Do you mean THIS keyword list?
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 12:04 AM by file83
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Deny and Shred Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:47 AM
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111. Outstanding keyword compliation - quiche, froglegs, beef - LOL
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:54 PM
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119. try to get on Arabic websites, oh, if I only knew the language.
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:55 PM
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92. Then the NSA's software analyzes this data for indications of ________ activity.
fill in the blank
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:36 AM
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94. Newsflash. This is a major article. But, it is not news.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:06 AM
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95. K&R.
Criminal bastards.

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better tomorrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:08 AM
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97. just watched the Shuttle lift off and.....
while I was on KSC checking the launch time, I saw this.....this rocket goes up Saturday.

Event: Delta 2 • GPS 2R-19 (M6)
Date: 3/15/2008

Time: 02:09:00 AM ET
Details: The United Launch Alliance Delta 2 rocket will launch the Space Tracking and Surveillance System technology demonstration mission for the Missile Defense Agency. NASA will oversee the launch. The rocket will fly in the 7920 vehicle configuration.
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emald Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:31 AM
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102. the greatest terrorist sits in the oval office
and no great imagination is needed to know it. GWBushit and his cabal are the single greatest terroristic threat to the world that exists at this time. And still he is saluted and feted as a "leader". I spit on him and his family. When will this coup end?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:08 AM
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109. Well that's it. The terrorists have won. Great job, pukes & complicit Dems.
Enjoy what freedom you have left, while you still have it to enjoy.

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Deny and Shred Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:42 AM
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110. Bandar, Cheney, many others would be caught by this data dragnet
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 11:44 AM by Deny and Shred
if it actually did what it was supposed to, AND there wasn't selective prosecution by a politicized DoJ, etc.
I say let some Dem-appointed personnel use this TIA clone, then we can catch some of the REAL weapons proliferators, smugglers, blackmailers, and dirty dealers, many of whom will be out of a job come January.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:46 PM
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117. kick
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:49 PM
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118. has this program EVER stopped a terrorist attack???
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:57 PM
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120. Spitzer. It's the Dem spying program. Like we said in the first place.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:09 PM
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128. key indicators of terrorist activity that they search for include:
being a Democrat, especially a Democratic elected official

posting on seditious websites like DU

buying or checking out from the library any book other than the Bible--King James Version, or any book written by a right winger

not owning an SUV and/or a McMansion

having a triple-digit IQ

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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:13 PM
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129. Wanted to keep this kicked!
Thanks, kpete!

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