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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:46 PM
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Was this revelation about Spitzer prompted by NSA spying?
We all know the only reason to have warrantless wiretapping is for blackmail.

Was Spitzer caught by the NSA, which leaked it to the NYT? Did he then refuse to be blackmailed?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:49 PM
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1. Good call. nt
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:49 PM
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2. Apparently not. Organized crime investigation n/t
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:52 PM
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3. In connection with investigation into the Gambino crime family. There was a huge bust
a few weeks ago, and perhaps this revelation happened when getting information from those arrested.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:57 PM
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4. One cannot be certain, except to say that warantless wiretapping and the entire DOJ is a criminal
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 01:58 PM by tom_paine
Bushie operation now.

So it cannot be ruled out. It is even probable.

The sad truth of the Empire today, as it continues it's drive to neutralize opposition: Due to the Bushies' Total Information Awareness, every real crime or unethical move by the Democrats is now known to the Bushies.

I predicted this long ago. It's archived here on DU a dozen times or more. The Bushies can now walk virtually scot-free from any crime because they are the "KKK Sheriff" in the "Small Mississippi Town of the 60s" that the entire Amerikan Empire has become.

There is virtually no limit to the laws they can break, knowing that Loyal Bushies won't even bother to investigate. Sure, there are some old holdovers from Free America pre-2000, and there are still some Law Enforcement persons (the lower in rank you go, the more there are...at the highest levels of Federal law Enforcement, I am sure they are all Bushie Criminals by now an W. McCain will keep them on, of course, after he is crowned) who take their duties to the law more seriously than their loyalty to the Imperials, but they are dwindling and will eventually be gone, if these trends remain un-reversed.

The tipping point in this country has long been passed. The Bushies have us, they own us, like the Chinese own their subjects, like Putin owns his Russian subjects. The only difference is that we are treated "more nicely" because of the lie of a free Amerika must be maintained for awhile longer.

How much longer? No one can guess. It depends on how fast the economy crashes and the rest of the shit, environmental and Peak Oil, hits the fan. It also depends on how quickly the idea of Old America can be eradicated from future generations.

It is still possible that, like ancient Rome, it will have to be maintained for 100 years or more after it is no more than a myth and memory, though somehow I doubt it will be anywhere close to that long.

May God Forgive us, and help us, for we are the spitting image of the 1930s German that brought Hitler to power, the 1st Century BC Romans that brought the Caesars to power.

And this is but one more stepping stone in the Bushies' Gleichschaltung of America. They are still reducing any Ruling Class opposition to rubble. When that task is complete, then and ONLY then, will we begin to feel the true lash of tyranny that awaits us in the Penultimate and Final Solutions the Bushies have waiting for us.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:17 PM
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12. I agree with you - tom paine.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:41 PM
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19. warrantless wiretapping
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 03:04 PM by DemReadingDU
Assuming Spitzer was involved, I would also assume that he was caught via warrantless spying.

edit: The Republicans will stoop to anything to try to keep their power. I would assume they are spying on all Democrats illegally. Then they get the warrant.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 03:37 PM
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24. History is repeating itself...
Where are the Tom Paine like citizens and leaders today? There are so few like you.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:58 PM
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5. No. Prompted by Hubris and Hypocrisy. n/t
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:00 PM
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6. It seems reasonable, but I don't know.
What is the Spitzer story is distracting from? Warrantless wiretapping and FISA debate? Contempt against Miers and Bolton? Inherent Contempt? The crashing economy? The growing public consciousness of The New Corporatist Order seemingly directed by an Executive Branch out of control?
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:12 PM
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9. Yes...all of them.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:24 PM
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15. yes I think your on to something
it's a distraction
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:25 PM
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16. No it's not
He is apparently about to be named in court documents filed in the RICO case against the escort service, so he made the announcement himself.


If it's a distraction, it's not intentional.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:08 PM
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7. revelations
Hmm. Collecting info on a dem up-and-comer. One that's popular, considered a whistle-blowing maverick, an independent, if you will. Obamatons view this Spitzer revelation as a victory for their camp (given Spitzer's support for Hillary), but it makes you wonder who else will be uncovered if these 'revelations' are part of a broader effort to discredit prominent dems.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:12 PM
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8. NSA and FISA spying
are for Bush to punish, bribe, and jail his political enemies. It has little to do with "terrorism" (since the terrorist are ours...in the White House).
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:15 PM
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10. It was prompted by a RICO investigation of the escort service
He was identified in court filings as a client. It was going to come out very soon anyway.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:19 PM
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14. Apparently a BIG client - "Client #9" in court documents" -nt
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 02:59 PM by democrat2thecore
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 03:32 PM
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20. Where is RICO when we need them in DC?
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 03:34 PM
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21. Thank you for posting that.
People around here need to RTFA and quit spouting about warrentless wiretapping -- which makes us all look like stupid morons who can't be bothered to read.

Geez
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:17 PM
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11. If we start seeing a string of Dems go down
one by one across the country, we can perhaps ascertain that the J. Edgar Hoover method is alive and well in the NSA and being used to blackmail and/or discredit the democratic opposition.

This might be the G.O.P. campaign plan.

...color me paranoid and cynical -- and hopefully sadly mistaken.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:31 PM
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17. At the beginning of the attempt to take down Clinton and impeach
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 02:31 PM by higher class
him for something - some pundits blatantly acknowledged that it was payback for Nixon.

It is highly, I emphasize - highly - likely that they are going to even a score. One sex crime/indescretion for another sex crime/indescretion. If they can.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:41 PM
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18. And then sometimes prosecutors actually prosecute CRIMES - and a ring like this is a crime -nt
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:18 PM
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13. If we start seeing a string of Dems go down
one by one across the country, we can perhaps ascertain that the J. Edgar Hoover method is alive and well in the NSA and being used to blackmail and/or discredit the democratic opposition.

This might be the G.O.P. campaign plan.

...color me paranoid and cynical -- and hopefully sadly mistaken.
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 03:35 PM
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22. Uh, no.
Take off the :tinfoilhat:
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 03:36 PM
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23. not at all
This has nothing to do with warrantless wiretaps in the name of natinal security.
Rather it is straightforward FBI wiretap of prostitution ring.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 03:43 PM
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25. They seem to blackmail more than American politicans
but foreign ones too. That's what a Mafia does.
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