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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 03:59 PM
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Spitzer speculation: Did * and his Wall Street buddies just get even
or did they get lucky? And federal wiretapping and FISA maybe? Perhaps Spitzer is being made an example to keep other folks in line during the election.

I should have stock in Reynolds but I have time on my hands now and my brain just went there.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:00 PM
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1. One problem with a conspiracy
...he walked his own way into it.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:01 PM
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2. Hell, you're not alone!
I also wonder about warrantless domestic surveillance
and use of federal agencies for political purposes.

And what about the lawyers and prosecutors? Were they
put in place by RoveBush?

Sue
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:03 PM
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3. Yea....they really needed FISA to a get tap on a whore's phone
Because ordering hookers over the phone was completely legal prior to 9/11.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:09 PM
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11. I read recently that since FISA, all US phone calls are routinely routed
overseas first so that the phone companies aren't liable for illegal tapping.
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BadgerLaw2010 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:48 AM
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18. Skipping a warrant in a domestic criminal investigation is the *last* thing you would want to do.
Warrantless searches are presumptively unreasonable, and anything flowing from unreasonable searches or seizures is tainted. Basically, good way to wreck your entire case.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:04 PM
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4. I don't know, except Gonzales had put a lot of FBI resources into
the investigations of prostitution, human slave trafficking in the sex trades, child pornography etc.
My feeling is Spitzer, accidentally caught got in the investigation of the escort service.

But who knows with this fascist regime?


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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:04 PM
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5. What does FISA have to do with a domestic criminal investigation?
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BadgerLaw2010 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:50 AM
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19. DU ignorance combined with conspiracy trolls.
If I'm under criminal investigation, I hope like hell they didn't bother to get warrants.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:07 PM
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6. I Think It's a Little of Both
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:07 PM
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7. I bet they did but I think this is about power.
I frankly do not care what these people do if it is not on our money and is legal. I do think they seem to let their power do what they can get away with. Maybe we should put him in Congress and he would feel at home with all the others who stay on the job after making their poor wife stand beside them as they ask us to let them keep their powerful jobs. Real fun.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:09 PM
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10. What part of hiring a prostitute is legal?
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:41 AM
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14. I guess if he did not pay it would be legal.
I just do not know these laws.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:20 PM
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12. What was legal in what he did?
He wasn't boinking the secretary.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:08 PM
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8. As grandma used to say to the men in our family
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 04:09 PM by malaise
'if you didn't go there, your name couldn't be called'.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:09 PM
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9. No, it was a RICO investigation and 100% legal.
He was just caught being stupid. Not everything is a conspiracy.
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Johnny Battleground Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:33 PM
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13. And any talk of conspiracy is going to make us look stupid.
When Craig gets nailed for wiping the hand under a toilet wall it's clearly criminal.
But when our guy gets nailed in a legit operation it's a conspiracy?
Can you see how weak this looks?
Let's say it was a conspiracy to get Spitzer. Did he or did he not commit the crime?
He has just turned himself into toxic goods.
He got caught with his pants down and his dick out.
So it's time to grit our teeth.
The less BS we offer as excuses, the better we'll be.
The faster it will pass.
If he did the crime, let HIM do the time.

he betrayed not only his family, but his party.
Screw him.
Time to move on.

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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:43 AM
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15. "Smirk." - Commander AWOL
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:44 AM
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16. Roger Stone's sticky little fingers are all over this thing!
Edited on Wed Mar-12-08 07:44 AM by annabanana
There would be no "conspiracy theories" if there weren't any Conspiracies. . Just because something hasn't already been proven to your satisfaction doesn't mean it's not true.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3222574&mesg_id=3222574
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:47 AM
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17. HamdenRice has the BIG motives here: (Saving the NY Senate for generations:)
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