1,000 PINK SLIPS for San Diego teachers

[Elspeth]

Thanks to Ahnold's budget. :wtf:

Does anyone have more info on this? The 1,000 figure came from NBC, the 11:00 news.

[Elspeth]

1. Here's a link to the story

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/education/15569492/detail.html?dl=mainclick

What the HELL is going on?

[Newsjock]

11. Why San Diego needs its teachers

So reporters and editors can learn proper English! From the above story:
"The hope is that somehow the governor is going to change this - the budget cuts - and that all this will be for not," said Bob Turner of Challenger Middle School.

Sigh.

[coalition_unwilling]

33. What do you expect? Reporters and editors graduate from

Journalism Schools, not from English departments.

[proud patriot]

2. California Schools are in Crisis

All thanks to Ahhhhhhhnold. bastard

[Elspeth]

5. How? He's cutting education for what reason?

?

[proud patriot]

30. He's suspending a state constitutional protection

that ensures schools have a certain amount of money to function on .

He declared a fiscal emergency and is cutting 10% of everything .

This cut is awful

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

27. I feel bad for cali

With the pension bubble coming up I dont know how they will maintain state services..

[villager]

3. I'm guessing San Diego voted heavily for Arnold, the last two elections?

n/t

[Elspeth]

4. Not THIS San Diegan

And not most of the areas being affected.

[TML]

7. Bingo

This is the "thanks" local residents get for supporting him.

[lonestarnot]

12. And they are getting what they voted!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2994306#2994354

Sorry I couldn't post the pic. photo joint down for maintenance.

[Elspeth]

21. What is this with the belt buckle?

?

[lonestarnot]

25. Skull and bones gift maybe? I don't know where he came up with it.

But he is definitely wearing it isn't he...

[Elspeth]

31. Any proof of that S & B connection?

?

[lonestarnot]

47. So far the only evidence I know of is the buckle.

[Elspeth]

49. But where did the buckle come from?

?

[bobthedrummer]

41. Some of those San Diego teachers unconstitutionally put out of their profession

by the Totenkopf belt buckle wearing Austrian born son of a Nazi Governor of California undoubtedly know and teach history.

SS Totenkopf, S&B, it's all symbolic of a culture of death-Arnold is not acting anymore, he's "terminating".

Here's a historic article (a little history lesson for those that love the truth) from TIME Magazine's archives from May 6, 1929 about the interconnections of German industries (like I.G.Farben) with their American "cousins".

"The Bosch Invasion" (Time 5-6-1929)
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,732320-1,00.html

[lonestarnot]

48. eeeeweee thanks bob the drummer!

[Winterblues]

22. Yes but those are the ones for school vouchers and private schools

They love it that schools are being shut down. Except for the Court throwing a road block against home schooling. It is right wing way to indoctrinate the children.

[rpannier]

6. They should give those 1000 pink slips to the governor

[Double T]

8. Nice to see rethugs supporting education like they support hurricane victims.

[Kutjara]

9. Well, he is The Terminator.

Just doing the job he was built and programmed for.

Anyway, who needs teachers? They just put ideas in people's heads. An ignorant population is a docile population. Just watch TV and all will be well.

[devilgrrl]

10. At least he wasn't soliciting prostitutes...

since he's been governor anyway. :popcorn:

[lonestarnot]

13. No, but keeping up the skull and bones traditions

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2994306#2994354

[El Pinko]

14. But all that money from the lotto was supposed to...

(sigh)

Well, at least thanks to prop 13 all the rich old people get to pay a pittance in property taxes. That's what really matters.

:sarcasm:

[caligirl]

15. I believe school nurses are also being cut by as much as 50%, the gov

has been told and is working with the California School Nurses Assoc. It is an unintended consequence he found out about at some big meeting that included the CSNO and as I am told he listened with great interest and followed it up with a letter to the President of the CSNO.

[LuckyLib]

16. Teachers in every state in the union are getting pinks slips. States have no money,

communities have no money, school districts have no money.
I'd like to flood Congress with those pink slips.

[Elspeth]

20. Oh my God. Why are states this broke?

?

[tabasco]

23. Republican wars and corruption.

The end result of republican politics is the breakdown of society.

Kind of like Somalia.

[Elspeth]

24. I wonder if this is Ahnold's private war against the teachers' union

They beat his ass two years ago with his anti-union propositions.

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

28. No one here will like the answer

Yes it has allot to do with unfunded and underfunded mandates but it also has a hell of allot to do with states, in the late 90's, thinking the good times were never going to end. Here is a bigger problem the 'easy' remedy of raising property taxes is not going to be all that effective as property values are dropping.

Were states to have exercised discipline in the late 90's and not bloat their budgets rather than saving some of that extra revenue (especially when * get into office they should have know they were screwed) things might not be so bad now..

[Elspeth]

29. You know, CA had a billion dollars in surplus in 2001, which got siphoned off by the

faux Energy Crisis--read Enron.

Even if the states had WANTED to save that money, they were robbed of it.

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

32. You make an *excellent point*

I was speaking of states in general, not just Cali which has had its own special issues..

--

"On August 21, 1998, the Governor signed the 1998-99 Budget Act, which along with various implementing measures (trailer bills), comprise a budget package that authorizes total state spending of $72 billion. This total includes $57.3 billion from the General Fund (a 7.3 percent increase from 1997-98) and $14.7 billion from special funds (a 1.7 percent increase). "

Fast Forward to 2002: "The Governor's budget proposes total state spending in 2002-03 of $97.9 billion"

1998 - 2002 (4 years) saw a 25 billion dollar increase in spending... This is *way* out of whack with inflation (about triple inflation).

--

Like I said there are allot of people who can have fingers pointed at them *defiantly the criminals who robbed the state blind during the energy crisis, defiantly the feds for pushing unfunded mandates, and defiantly state legislatures for their budgets..

[Elspeth]

36. Wonder where the spending is going

It's certainly not in the schools

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

37. Im sure much of it is pension

[Elspeth]

38. The pensions are being raided

But are you talking about state retirement system? (STRS or PERS)

[earth mom]

17. I think it's state wide. My friend lives in central Calif and just got her credential

and has no hope of getting a teaching job anytime soon. She's bummed and now has a big student loan to boot. I feel really bad for her.

Maria should kick Arnolds a$$!!!

[JCMach1]

18. Who needs teachers when you have a tank?

http://thesyndrome.com/2008/02/29/gov-arnold-schwarzeneggers-bright-idea-for-improving-california-schools-bring-in-a-tank/

[Jeffersons Ghost]

19. K&R

[Romulox]

26. THANK GOD I didn't accept an emergency teacher's cert in Ca!

I thought about it, but California looks to be in a long term decline (in many more ways than one!)

[kineneb]

34. is ok, we will manage, we always do.

Native Californian here.

We will get by somehow; the state survived the Great Depression of the 1930s, we will survive this depression. "Decline" is a relative thing. But like so many other trends, as California goes, so goes the nation.

We still have the 7th or 8th largest economy in the world, and we are state, not a country. (well now, we could decide to be a country...)

[Romulox]

35. I wish you well--my inlaws and friends still live there. Ca is just not for me. nt

[AlCzervik]

39. Elk Grove unified school district is also laying off teachers, about 130 i think.

[Elspeth]

42. Elk Grove is tiny

..

[AlCzervik]

43. it was when i first moved here, in 2000 there were 60,000 people, now it's almost 140,000

and 50% of the population is under 18.

[Elspeth]

44. Jesus! That's a population explosion.

I remember it as being very small. Must have been a lot of development.

[AlCzervik]

45. yes and no i repeat no infrastructure to handle the now big population, fing city

is run by developers and now some of those same assholes are or have pulled out and have left neighborhoods unfinished and the city is holding the bag.

I can't even tell you how much this place has changed in 8 years, it's really sad, foreclosures are way way up and business's are closing and teachers are getting laid off.

[Elspeth]

46. That's just horrible. The developers make their money and take off

just another way big business is "better" than government by the people.
:sarcasm:

[havocmom]

40. Scrimp on education to help solve a budget problem only delays the problem

When undereducated kids hit the job market, they won't be able to make much which means they won't be as helpful as taxpayers either.

Penny wise, pound foolish. GOP governors are fucking disasters.