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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:53 PM
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Ohio Considers Banning Hallucinogenic Herb
Lawmakers Concerned Salvia Could Be New Marijuana
POSTED: 6:11 am EDT March 12, 2008
UPDATED: 7:40 am EDT March 12, 2008

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- On Web sites touting the mind-blowing powers of the hallucinogenic herb called Salvia divinorum, there are warnings like these: "Time is running out!" and "stock up while you still can."

That's because salvia is being targeted by lawmakers concerned that the plant could become the next marijuana. Eight states have already placed restrictions on salvia, and 16 others, including Ohio, are considering a ban or have previously.

Some said legislators are overreacting to a minor problem, but no one disputes that the plant impairs judgment and the ability to drive.

Native to Mexico and still grown there, Salvia divinorum is generally smoked but can also be chewed or made into a tea and drunk.

It's a hallucinogen that gives users an out-of-body sense of traveling through time and space or merging with inanimate objects. But unlike hallucinogens like LSD or PCP, salvia's effects last for a shorter time, generally up to an hour.

More Information:

NAME: Salvia divinorum

NICKNAMES: Salvia, Sally-D, Magic Mint, Diviner's Sage, Maria Pastora, Sage of the Seers, Lady Salvia, Purple Sticky, Sage.

REPORTED EFFECTS: Hallucinogenic effects that last up to one hour, out-of-body experiences, loss of motor coordination and awareness of surroundings, loss of consciousness, uncontrolled laughter.

HOW IT'S USED: Smoked, chewed, made into tea, smoked in water pipes.

ORIGIN: Native to Oaxaca, Mexico, and used by Mazatec Indians in healing rituals.

STATES THAT HAVE RESTRICTED SALVIA AS OF DECEMBER 2007: Delaware, Illinois, Louisiana, Maine, Missouri, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Tennessee.

STATES THAT ARE CONSIDERING OR HAVE CONSIDERED BANNING SALVIA: Alabama, Alaska, California, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Nebraska, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming.

http://www.newsnet5.com/health/15571746/detail.html

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:57 PM
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1. Nanny staters are determined that we all wring the last drop of bitterness
out of life, without any respite from the herbs nature has thoughtfully provided us with to ease our pain.

I guess these evil, unhappy people would rather we turn to damaging drugs like alcohol on which they make a profit.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:58 PM
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4. bingo n/t
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 02:00 PM
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7. You're right....
takes $$$$ away from Big Pharma., especially Marijuana.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 02:23 PM
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10. very well said
and sadly, very true.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 02:29 PM
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11. Alcohol and over-the-counter meds
That kids trip out on and die from. Available in approximately 130 "legal" meds.


http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/drugs_concern/dextro_m/dextro_m.htm
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:57 PM
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2. Dammit people are getting high again! Toss them in jail quick!
our demented idiocracy continues to pursue madness without hesitation.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:58 PM
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3. Oh, yeah, that's going to do a lot
I have kids walking in front of my house smoking blunts reeking of skunkweed and they're worried about
some herb that isn't even widespread yet?
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:59 PM
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5. Someday future generations will laugh their asses off at us.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 02:00 PM
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6. "Here comes Johnny Salviaseed..."
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 02:01 PM
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8. We grow red and blue salvia. I wonder...
Can you get broadband in jail? :)
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 02:06 PM
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9. If you use Salvia the terrorists win.
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 02:31 PM
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12. Meh, the buzz and the paranoia lasted 15 min and I shit myself 3 times.
I still don't think I need "Big Brother" to regulate yet another natural substance. I like to see the regulators "banned" permanently.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 02:33 PM
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14. "I shit myself 3 times."
OMG.....:rofl:

Sorry, don't mean to laugh at you but I really needed a good laugh today! :hi:
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 08:49 AM
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20. Yeah! Stay away from that stuff!
Glad you got a chuckle!

:hi:
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 05:15 PM
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15. Couldn't you get a similar effect with some of that "Alli" stuff?
The one that warns users to wear dark colored undies.

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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 02:32 PM
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13. we have TONS of salvia around the house
i guess i better look for the cops coming by to check us out pretty soon... didn't know it produced those effects... i think you can get it at Home Depot... man are they in trouble!

sP
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 05:21 PM
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16. Salvia is crap, don't waste your money on it
Edited on Wed Mar-12-08 05:22 PM by wuushew
I agree this law is stupid, but since Saliva is crap anyway it really has no practical effect.

If you like very short highs with profuse sweating than this is the herb for you.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 05:23 PM
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17. dont forget panicked hallucinations
give me pot anyday
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 05:27 PM
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18. I agree
and anyone looking to hallucinate can always do shrooms, which are pretty fun.

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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 08:51 AM
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21. And last for...
what day is it now?
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TheFriendlyAnarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 05:30 PM
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19. LOL, Sally-D is NOT even CLOSE to weed.
It is interesting, but I'm not sure if I would classify it as 'fun'. I've done it three times in the past 2 years. It's crazy, lasts about 20 minutes, and then you're pretty much straight. Don't know why they're even gonna bother making it illegal, most people can hardly move if they break through.
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