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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:26 AM
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i can't believe posts i read here running down keith olbermann
how ridiculous!

what's the deal?
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:27 AM
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1. He doesn't like Hillary Clinton
so people are gouging his legacy in the eyes.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:51 AM
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15. This is where you are getting it wrong. He doesn't like the tactics that Clinton's campaign is
using and he thinks it is very bad for the Democratic Party. The beneficiary of what her camp is doing is McCain.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:56 AM
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16. Correction duly noted
He has been critical of Clinton's tactics. Thanks.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:28 AM
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2. He made the mistake of criticizing Hillary
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 11:28 AM by Paint It Black
So now he's a sexist right-wing asshole. :sarcasm:

Oh, and he's also a mindless Obamite.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:44 AM
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12. In that case, we'd better execute him
Just to be on the safe side.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:46 PM
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28. Oh, OK, then -- progressives haven't been criticizing him.
I was worried that progressives were criticizing K.O.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:28 AM
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3. There's a killer party going on
under the bus these days.
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:29 AM
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4. Every group has it's10 %'ers!
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:14 PM
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19. That's giving the louts a lot of credit
they're more like 1 percenters, if that.
They just make a lot of noise.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:29 AM
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5. the marching orders
were handed out Tuesday night minutes after Keith announced he would be making a SC on Clinton campaign tactics-that's when the Clinton operatives here went to work. Even though his commentary was done with love and was more an intervention than a "shame on you Mister Bush" type SC...the Flying Monkey Brigade had already been launched. They won't be happy until John McCain is standing there with his hand on The Holy Bible taking his oath of office
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:35 AM
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10. my assessment exactly.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:21 PM
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24. Ummmm there was taunting and hyping about what Keith was going to do to Hillary
with thread after thread whipping folks up to make sure they watched KO so they could see his Special Comments.

I don't care for either Hillary or Obama...but I saw thread after thread with replies that seemed to already know what he was going to say. :shrug:
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:55 PM
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39. Excellent post, I agree 100%.
n/t.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:30 AM
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6. I stopped watching him back when he was flogging Monica
Yes, he eventually quit, but long after I gave up on him. It's his career ... his ... get it? No more, no less.

Let it go. Silly season will end.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:16 PM
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32. your memory is faulty
KO left MSNBC precisely BECAUSE of their flogging of Monica:

The Big Show was essentially a free-ranging forum for Olbermann’s edgy, quick-witted commentary and polymathic interests. But when the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke, the show morphed into an all-Monica-all-the-time format—a development Olbermann couldn’t stomach. “All the yelling on the show reminded me of a part of my childhood that I didn’t want to relive,” recalls Olbermann. “I just couldn’t deal with it.”

http://nymag.com/news/features/30338/index3.html

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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:09 PM
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33. No ... my memory is fine. Sorry Olbermann has family issues - that
may explain why we see so few mature women on his program. Maybe not.

But I don't expect much from a sportscaster and that's what he is at heart.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:12 PM
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34. it's documented
that KO left MSNBC for the very reason you are attempting to slime him.

and please let us know about that MSM news broadcast that features "mature women". because i haven't seen it.

sheesh.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:16 PM
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35. Slime? C'mon ... I'm as sympathetic as they come. How sensitive
can you get?

BTW, I enjoy "To The Contrary", where disagreements are explored in a polite manner. Heard of it?
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:13 PM
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36. your view of yourself
is not shared, being a reader of your posts in GD-P.

and "To The Contrary" is hardly considered MSM.



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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:41 PM
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37. You said I'm sliming someone ... when I preach forbearance. Your
perspective appears to be colored ... let me not speculate further.

When silly season ends, you'll see GD-P for what it is. Until then, I bid you peace.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 08:22 PM
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41. my perspective seems to be colored
by your constant, strident defensiveness when valid criticisms of Senator Clinton are made.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 08:29 AM
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44. No, you're willfully ignoring the fact that KO
left because of what others at the network were doing to Monica. Period. You have been shown that you are wrong, yet you persist in ducking and dodging the point.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 08:31 AM
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46. Tell us, what's wrong with sportscasters? If you can!
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Ronnie Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:42 AM
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47. He seems to have many issues.
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 09:43 AM by Ronnie
The one that made us stop watching was his penchant for showing footage of animals in distress. There were animals with their heads stuck in buckets, falling out of trees, bumping into glass doors... And he wouldn't show them just once. We tried to avoid watching that part but finally realized that he's just not a nice man.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:32 AM
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7. Same with Jon Stewart a while back-- some people forget...
that TV personalities are not necessarily lockstep advocates for anyone's personal positions.

(Rachel Maddow will get hers one day when she slips and says something not quite to the liking of some around here. You betcha.)



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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:33 AM
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8. People are very fickle. Wait until a Dem is in the WH and Jon Stewart mocks him or her.
DU will call for his head.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:35 AM
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Why is it hard to believe?
There have been countless threads here running down George McGovern, Ted Kennedy, RFK Jr., Wes Clark, Paul Krugman, etc. etc. because of who they support.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:35 AM
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9. Looks Like Someone's Cornflakes Smell...
I knew this was going to happen if KO stepped into the silly season pit...and in many ways he should have, and is saying what a lot of people are under their breath. It's a warning to Camp Clinton that the "Kitchen Sink" isn't working and could backfire big time...not on Obama or the Democratic party but on her campaign and the Clinton "legacy".

I've held my powder in the primaries and have avoided jumping into the pit as I see the real enemy as those who wear an (R), but one can't help but see what's happening and see how desperate things are starting to become in Camp Clinton and how its turning off many of us who have tried to stay out of the mess.

If this is "jumping the shark" or that Olbermann has now become Rushbo (sheesh) then someone else is having the problem. I just can't wait for silly season to end.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:44 AM
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11. well, hillary's children think he is mean
Anyone who likes mommy is good and anyone who doesnt is bad.

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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:49 AM
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13. He attacked a person half of his audience supports.
Not everyone here thinks Hillary is a Klan member.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:53 PM
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38. I missed that
part of his commentary. I don't think Hillary is a Klan member and neither does KO.

That's just silly.
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 11:49 AM
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14. He's transferred his Bush hate to a Democratic candidate - call him out
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:04 PM
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31. that's ridiculous
nt
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:00 PM
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17. The Clinton Cult cannot tolerate dissent.
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 12:01 PM by backscatter712
How dare you criticize the Charismatic Leader! She's been deified and must be obeyed!!!

I swear, I can't tell the difference between the Clinton family and the Manson Family these days...

They've made this entire campaign season into Helter Skelter!
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:00 PM
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18. Can't believe a lot posts here lately...
Mine are supposed to be stupid.

What's everyone else's excuse?

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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:14 PM
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20. It appears the first minute or so
of his comment is being ignored....The part where he acknowledges their support of his first comment against rummy when he instantly became the target of the screaming RW warmongering * ass kissers.

He does not direct criticism @ Clinton but @ her advisers. So in that respect, yes, I agree w/ him because I think she is getting lousy advice. But then that IS the established pattern for the dlc. She is one of the founders of that insidious group so of course she is going to listen to them. Every presidential campaign the dlc has run since Bill Clinton has been a total disaster, one f*ck-up piled on top of another f*ck-up (BTW, it was Clinton who won those races not the dlc)

It appears to me that one of the goals of the dlc is to supplant the DNC. The dlc's hatred of Dean & his 50 state strategy is clear. They have been trying to destroy him since he announced his candidacy for President. Clinton is the only way they reclaim their power in the DNC. I honestly believe all this delegate crap in Florida & Michigan can be traced to their doorstep. It has their MO all over it.

The dlc's role in the current Clinton campaign to two fold - get her elected at any cost and destroy the DNC in the process.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:15 PM
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21. I was just about to post the same thing.
Olberman has been a great voice for us.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:21 PM
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22. He has been part of the MSNBC "Obama: Good. Clinton: Bad"
coverage which has been going on for months.

I wasn't even supporting Clinton and I was irritated by it.

I've been a huge fan of KO, but don't bother watching anymore. At this point, CNN is preferable because they at least make an effort to be objective. I watch the news for news, not propaganda.

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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:35 PM
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26. Gimme a break.
Last week after the Ohio and Texas primaries, they couldn't throw enough laurels on Clinton! They'd be broadcasting her soundbites 24/7, while Obama gets absolutely no press.

Don't tell me they're for Hillary or against her or for or against Obama.

The truth is they're in it for themselves. They want a horserace. They want the campaign looking like a Jerry Springer brawl.

And it seems that Keith Olbermann is one of the few adults onscreen anymore, especially when compared to Chris Matthews or Tim Russert.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:45 PM
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27. While you are right that they want a horserace and will...
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 12:59 PM by Zookeeper
do their mightiest to fan the flames, they have followed an MSNBC pro-Obama party line for four or five months now. And I could see it objectively, given that I had no dog in the fight.

I've watch KO since he started on MSNBC and, although I've grown tired of his lengthy and pompous opinion pieces, I've appreciated that he was the first newscaster with the guts to actually report the truth about BushCo. However, I have been disappointed with what I see as his advocacy of one candidate over another.

Like I said, I'm sticking with CNN for now, just because they seem to be more neutral.

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:21 PM
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23. I can.
It's only going to get stupider from here.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 12:29 PM
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25. REALLY??
If his indignation is so righteous and moral, where is his outrage that Rev. Wright, Obama's pastor of late, who married him and his wife, baptized his children, inspired his book, is on his advisory board, and of "...God Damn America..." fame has not been censured and requested to resign?

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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 01:56 PM
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29. He has earned it by shining his big , fat ego at us all.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:02 PM
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30. you're joking right?
nt
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:27 AM
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49. Probably Not Intentionally, Gato
Although the post was a joke, i doubt that was the intent.
The Professor
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kotsu Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 05:35 PM
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40. Olbermann was a voice in the wilderness
literally, and I'm not ready to toss him out just because he said something I don't like. Let's all wait and see if he is also willing to use that skewering indignation of his on Obama. I think it is valuable to have a commentator that goes after all parties. If it turns out that he rolls over like a big puppy for Obama...then we can dismiss him as another talking head.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 07:36 AM
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42. He expressed his opinion
Olbermann has always made it forcefully clear that the Special Comments were purely his opinion (backed up by a few facts if necessary but opinion all the same) and, on this occasion, his opinion was that the Clinton campaign (with or without Hillary's knowledge) is using underhanded and divisive tactics.

Since a certain faction of the supporters for both HRC and BO (Hmm, unfortunate initials) seem to have joined a cult of personality, Olbermann's opinion got him demonised as a sexist Hillary-hater.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 08:26 AM
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43. Keith has been accused of misogyny and sexism in many threads.
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 08:52 AM by IMModerate
And I ask for examples, and the only answer I got was how he makes fun of Paris Hilton. :rofl:

But no one has taken him to task yet for his trashing of Ann Coulter.

--IMM
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 08:31 AM
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45. I'm convinced
Many of those decrying what he said never even watched the Special Comment he made (cf the "Klan" comment earlier in the thread).
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:18 AM
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48. I'm convinced many of them
Are closet BillO fans
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