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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:40 PM
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Sen. Schumer Just Compared Bush To Herbert Hoover
Speaking on CNN in response to the pResident's speech on the economy in New York.

Another historical allusion: "We have a crisis in confidence in credit."

Bush's speech was "completely disappointing."

"As long as the President stays in his ideological straightjacket" things will not get better. "It seems as if the President is on a different economic planet than most Americans."


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predfan Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:43 PM
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1. Certainly a fair comparison.
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:48 PM
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2. What an insult
to Hoover!
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 01:12 PM
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7. Not really. Hoover was hated by my aunts. Tens of thousands of
elderly and children died of exposure and hunger. He turned the US Army on the populace. He was probably part of the cabal that tried to overthrow the Republic and install a Mussolini-type dictator. We'd know for sure if all the papers from the House Committee on UnAmerican Affairs had not disappeared.

They never referred to the dam out west as anything but Boulder Dam. Confused the heck out of me when I was a child. It should have probably been named for a real American, like Smedley D. Butler.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:17 PM
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13. my thoughts exactly
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:51 PM
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3. Gotta love Chuckie
He has his faults, but I think his good traits are overlooked--especially when he insults the Chimp in Chief. I am proud to call him my senator. :patriot:
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:52 PM
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4. While he's right, Turncoat Schumer is best compared to Neville Chamberlain.
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 12:53 PM by FreepFryer
Chamberlain on Hitler:
'"...the settlement of the Czechoslovakian problem, which has now been achieved is, in my view, only the prelude to a larger settlement in which all Europe may find peace. My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time."

Schumer on Mukasey:
"I am voting today to support Michael B. Mukasey for attorney general for one critical reason: the Department of Justice — once the crown jewel among our government institutions — is a shambles and is in desperate need of a strong leader, committed to depoliticizing the agency’s operations. No one questions that Judge Mukasey would do much to remove the stench of politics from the Justice Department. I believe we should give him that chance."


Same wishful-thinking appeasement, different century.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:54 PM
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5. Sadly, I agree on this.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:58 PM
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6. Hoover was a very good man and a humanitarian.
He did not know how to counteract the Great Depression, but to be fair some of his efforts were incorporated into the New Deal and it took WWII to restore the economy.

To compare Hoover to war criminal George W. Bush is completely wrong and unfair.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 01:13 PM
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8. He knew. Turn the troops on the populace. That always works. nt
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 01:19 PM
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9. Ah, the Bonus Marchers. That little incident also tarnished two of
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 01:20 PM by Benhurst
our future war heroes.

I doubt if either of our leading candidates would have handled the situation any better. John McCain? His military background might have prevented him from making a similar mistake, but I doubt it. He doesn't seem to like being crossed very much.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:50 PM
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11. Little incident? While hundreds of thousands of Americans, elderly
and youthful, were dying of exposure and malnutrition that SOB was plotting.

I maybe the last generation that remembers how he oppressed Americans during the Great Depression. But let me assure you that while he stroked the rich, Americans were dying, and if we had the records of the House on Un American Activities record, he would be implicated in the aborted putsch to replace FDR with a Mussolini type dictator.

It is amazing to me that the legacy of Hoover has been rehabilitated, but the legacy of Smedley D. Butler, savior of the Republic, has been all but forgotten.

Hoover was a SOB then, an SOB now, and an SOB in whatever future life he may have. A pox on his house.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:59 PM
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12. Thank you for the context.
There are great gaps in our perceived History in this Country.

As generations go, the heat & truth of the matter drys into the dusty pages of history books and people forget that there was flesh & blood in the stories.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:35 PM
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15. I have my grandfather's letters. My aunt was 99 this February. When
I hear people talk about about Hoover, the humanitarian, I want to :puke:

I entered my 7th decade in January.

My great-grandfather fought for Virginia. Lee told him to fight of Virginia, he did. He never owned a slave, would not even think about it.

My grandfather had a cattle farm in the Shenandoah. When he died, his workers were not allowed to enter the churchyard.

My uncle stood the line with Hoffa in the 1930's.

I am an unrepentant Democrat. Stories from my youth haunt me.

When I hear people laud the likes of Hoover, I go ballistic.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 01:57 PM
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10. That seems about right.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:34 PM
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14. Flood
'In early 1927, the Great Mississippi River flood broke the banks and levees of the Mississippi River. Although such a disaster did not fall under the duties of the Commerce Department, the governors of six states along the Mississippi specifically asked for Herbert Hoover in the emergency, so President Calvin Coolidge sent Hoover to mobilize state and local authorities, militia, army engineers, Coast Guard, and the American Red Cross. He set up health units, with a grant from the Rockefeller Foundation, to work in the flooded regions for a year. These workers stamped out malaria, pellagra, and typhoid fever from many areas. His work during the flood brought Herbert Hoover to the front page of newspapers almost everywhere, and he gained new accolades as a humanitarian.'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Hoover
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