The Gov and the Jersey Princess...

[Taverner]

This thing is getting more and more infuriating. Right now, I couldn't give a rats ass about Spitzer or what happens there. Those with glass homes shouldn't throw rocks. Likewise, what he did, outside of hypocrisy, is no ones business but "Kristen" and Elliots.

BUT WHAT FREAKING MAKES ME MAD is how this Jersey Princess, spoiled rotten and all over the news is going to probably make off like a bandit on the backs of everyone else. Thousands of singers want their music to be heard, but because she doinked a Governor, she is now a millionaire. Great.

And her "abuse": apparently that wasn't sexual or emotional abuse, but she didn't get another Porsche after she wrecked her Step-Dad's first http://www.nypost.com/seven/03142008/news/regionalnews/omg__i_just_did_the_governor__101907.htm?page=1">one. Then she took off. This just gives the go-ahead for thousands of wanna-be princesses out there to cry abuse whenever they don't get their way because "hey! I deserve the best! And if I don't get it, I'm going to hurt anyone in my way to get it."

[JerseygirlCT]

1. Ok, I'm sorry, but that's funny

And I have to admit, as a Jersey shore girl myself, I was very curious about where she was from!

Cracked up daddy's porsche... From one john to another, it sounds. Looking for a man to take care of her.

Ok, I changed my mind. Not funny. Pathetically sad.

[Taverner]

4. Sad and funny in the same breath...

And of course, The Jersey Princesses only make a small percentage of the Jersey Girls :)

The Boss and I both understand this

[JerseygirlCT]

8. No princess here - I hope!

(Though I did always want to grow up to be one. A real one though, not the kind who drives a Porsche. Castle, great dress, knights in shining armour - all that stuff!)

[Taverner]

10. 'Course not - we don't have no stinkin' princesses on DU!

Just furious fighting females with fortitude!

[lapfog_1]

2. To be fair... this is kill the messenger.

It's not like she went looking for Governors to boink... she didn't even KNOW it was "someone".

She was hired. By him. Save this type of outrage for the Monicas and Paula Joneses of the world, not working girls.

[Taverner]

9. I guess what makes me mad is the "princess" mentality that has run amok

in our society. Open displays of spolied rottenness and shallowness just bother me.

It's one thing to be openly sexual - we see women like Madonna who are open about their sexuality and it empowers them. Madonna made all her money herself with sweat and hard work. Don't believe me? You try having her body at her age! But she never felt the world owed her anything.

But so many girls today are being told they deserve "the best" and nothing less will do, and that if they don't get it, they are being abused somehow. Watch any MTV teen reality show and you'll see what I mean.

[CJCRANE]

11. She isn't a regular "working girl".

She's a spoilt kid who wanted to make a lot of money fast.

[lapfog_1]

17. But she didn't set out to make it

by bringing down your political hero.

She was making money "fast" in a method that is similar to how athletes or musicians or models or actors "make money fast". The only difference is that you don't approve of the morality of what profession she picked.

How is it different to do what she did (drop out of school and become a VIP escort) than your typical fashion model (who drops out of school and also can make $4000/gig)? Other than we don't approve of it? ( I don't really approve of fashion models, either). Both careers can be lucrative, both offer no security, both are short lived (usually), both rely a good bit on your looks, not your brains.

She didn't pick her clients, they picked her.

[Taverner]

19. Whether or not I approve is irrlevant

It's not my decision to approve or disapprove...

HOWEVER - it's the capitalization on tragedy, and the princess-ification that bothers me. And this is a prime example.

[lapfog_1]

26. Her career as a VIP escort is gone

poof. And not through anything she did. She was just unlucky to have the governor of New York as a client.

If she had run to the tabloids and broke the story, I would agree with your apparent anger at her.

That she capitalizes on this misfortune now is no big deal to me. More power to her. Hope she gets a book deal or movie deal out of it, because the only other option is a photo shoot for Hustler or Playboy. I doubt this will be a stepping stone to a major record deal... oh, she'll get a short term "fame" bump out of it, but much like the Donna Rice's of previous times, it's not going to be more than short term thing. Worse, it will follow her for a long time.

And she didn't ask for any of it.

[Taverner]

27. Oh I'll bet she could still be an escort

IN fact, I'll bet she could charge twice as much. Everyone will want to know if she Spitzer Swallows (thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week.) But seriously, she has the fame factor now, much like porn starlets who hook on the side.

[lapfog_1]

29. Would YOU pay money to be a client

knowing that the IRS and various TLA agencies will be tracking her for a the next few years?

Not to mention that, as part of the plea bargain she made, I certain that it will include some sort of probation period for her... likely years.

Prime example... Heidi Fleiss. not exactly doing any escort work now.

[Taverner]

30. She tried to set up a brothel outside of Vegas

Flopped - the idea was male prostitutes for women.

[lapfog_1]

31. different than her arranging for escorts in LA

or escorting herself.

[Crazy Dave]

3. What would make me mad is...

On all the news networks they said that this "Emperor's Club" and places like it offer women who are supposed to be "beautiful as in supermodel, sophisticated, worldly and educated, etc."
I can see that she's attractive but definitely none of the above. A high school drop-out, wannabe musician that guys like Spitzer can get for free being a person in that kind of position and having that wealth. A lot of women are drawn to guys like that.

$1000 - $5000 for the ordinary? As Bill O'lielly always likes to say: "I'm not buyin' it"

[Taverner]

5. Hey who doesn't want a Jersey girl?

The allure of the suburban girl from the garden state is hard to beat...

We all saw those Kevin Smith movies in our college years and thought "hmmmmmm"


I can see the allure, but I prefer porn myself :evilgrin:

[NewJeffCT]

23. my ex-wife was a Jersey girl

but, if I had to pay $5,000 each time we had sex...

nobody is worth that much for an hour, or a "date" or even an entire evening.

[lapfog_1]

6. It's a sales job.

I'm sure she is intelligent enough and knows which fork is used for what. Watch Pretty Woman again.

And, given Mr. Ooofah-Loofah's predilections, I'm pretty sure he is "buyin it". After all, would anyone boink him for free?

[Sal Minella]

7. And Bill probably wouldn't know what to do with it if someone bought it for him....

sorry. bad. couldn't resist.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

12. I live "out in the broccoli" of NJ.

Warren County, to be exact. We have Jersey Princesses out here. Well, not real ones. What we have is aspiring Jersey Princesses. Of course, you can get close to the real ones at places like Panther Valley, but their numbers are so low as to be insignificant. But we are close enough to Essex Cty, Morris Cty and New York so young women from more average economic backgrounds can dream and aspire.

You can see them at clubs and bars, standing with their girlfriends, dressed in a simulacrum of style, hair perfectly coifed in a style that was in four years ago, sneering at the local guys and watching the door for Mr. Illusion of Affluence to walk in. They love guys with "hot cars".

They generally end up in a bad relationship or twelve, get married, have a litter, get divorced and head out to the bars with a new hairdo to try to start over at 36, acting like they are 21. Tragi-comedic.

Me? Cynical? Nah. ;-)

[Taverner]

14. Happens out here in Cali too

My old neighborhood, South San Jose AKA Blossom Valley was a breeding ground for the California Suburb Princess. Same thing - lather, rinse repeat.

Tragi-comic indeed.

And at the risk of sounding like a vengeful geek, I love meeting the princesses from the old hood today, themselves fat and with a huge litter, divorced, usually twice, and driving one of those fast-but-cheap cars. And life has been good to me, and I want nothing to do with them except to sneer at them :evilgrin:

[lapfog_1]

18. wow, your life is pretty shallow.

and you do sound like a vengeful geek... didn't date much in high school???

[Taverner]

21. Let me revel in Schadenfreude

Let me fully enjoy my epicaricacy.

I did date in college, but High School was four years of massive rejection.

So if they suffer, let me wallow in their misery - drink the tears of their sorrow.

Thing is, college was a totally different story: College was where fellow geeks came out of the woodwork, and I discovered wow! they have girl geeks too! I think the epiphany happened at a midnight screening of Holy Grail, and I found a group of three girls laughing along with us...

Honestly, where did the geek girls hide in high school?

[NewJeffCT]

24. lucky you

I didn't date in high school, and really didn't even start dating until I was a senior in college. Even though I was geeky as well, I was very shy and could never get the courage to ask a woman out, geeky or not... and, back in the mid to late 80s when I went to college, it was still unusual for a woman to ask a guy out... but, i think my shyness probably scared some of them off as well.

but, after marrying a jersey princess type before & then quickly getting divorced... I've done much better for myself in that regards.

[Taverner]

25. Glad you made it out OK!

Divorces can be HELL - and I'm glad you made it out with your self-confidence intact, if not improved.

[mitchum]

13. Hey, it's not her fault that cocaine is so expensive

a girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do

[Taverner]

15. HAHAHAHAAH

Fell out of my chair on that one

[JI7]

16. have you watched that sweet 16 show on MTV ?

[Taverner]

22. That show bothers me to no end...

I wouldn't even know where to start.

[JackRiddler]

20. If I were in her in position...

I would do exactly what she did.

In fact, I suspect if SPITZER were in her position, he would do exactly the same.

You are presuming (expecting, actually) a nobility that is not only out of place in the milieu of which we speak, but contradicts every "value" that commercial society blasts out of all its media and institutions, 24/7.

She is maximizing her return as a rational Homo Economicus, nothing more. If Spitzer had done the same, he'd still be governor.

[kwassa]

28. She can't be a Jersey princess.

Her hair isn't big enough