El Supremo
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Fri Mar-14-08 04:49 PM
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The Democratic Party has a tendency to self-destruct. |
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2008? Party divided between two candidates? 2004 Kerry 'swiftboated' and does not fight back 2000 Gore linked too closely to Clinton and does nothing about it 1988 Dukakis 'tank helmeted' and is lost 1984 Mondale too weak 1980 Carter flattened by Iran hostage crisis and admitted lack of power over the economy 1972 McGovern 'B-24ed' by Nixon and does not fight back 1968 Well, it was 1968
Any ideas on how to stop it this time? I mean without taking on the Repubs' tactics. But maybe that is mutually exclusive.
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Selatius
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Fri Mar-14-08 04:50 PM
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1. I don't think anybody could've defeated Reagan in 1984. Hart likely would've lost like Mondale. But. |
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Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 04:52 PM by Selatius
if they want some advice, stand up and fight for something, anything. People don't vote for a party that is timid in action and indecisive. That's a recipe for failure.
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Fri Mar-14-08 04:54 PM
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2. Hasn't the GOP self-destructed a few times in history? n/t |
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Fri Mar-14-08 04:56 PM
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4. No. The've been beaten. But the Dems beat themselves. n/m |
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Fri Mar-14-08 05:00 PM
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5. I don't agree. Saying 'Mondale too weak' is not a party self-destructing. |
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The GOP has self-destructed recently.
Yeah, we're doing a good job of screwing up right now, and Florida party apparently is populated with plenty of shitheads, but I think some perspective is necessary.
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Fri Mar-14-08 04:55 PM
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3. That's the leadership of Rahm Emanuel and Terry McAiluffe... |
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Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 04:57 PM by devilgrrl
a legacy of failure. I swear that those two are GOP plants.
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Fri Mar-14-08 05:33 PM
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once hillary and barack decide to stop being children and come together, the party will be unstoppable and not decided
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Fri Mar-14-08 05:34 PM
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We are a much more diverse party, so it is harder to satisfy all competing interests. Suck it up and realize we ain't gonna get everything we want, and the things we want may take a while.
It's a tough point to sell, though.
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Fri Mar-14-08 05:46 PM
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8. there is a difference between self destructing |
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and throwing the contest on purpose.
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El Supremo
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Fri Mar-14-08 06:16 PM
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Who threw the contest? Kerry comes to mind. But that's just because I'm still pissed at him.
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Fri Mar-14-08 06:22 PM
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I have no doubt that the elections are manipulated so that the democrats put in the candidates that are most likely to either take a dive or the cabalists have stuff on them to destroy them whenever they want.
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Fri Mar-14-08 06:18 PM
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10. it's a party that's all inclusive...that's why i'm a democrat...it's harder to come together |
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but it's worth it and ten zillion times better than the option
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Fri Mar-14-08 06:31 PM
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12. Sorry, in this case, its the Pubs who have fucked it all up.....Bush reveals the Pub Philosophy for |
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all to see and feel....
Greed and a lack of empathy....nuff said...
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