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Jack Sprat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 06:49 PM
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Don't back down in 08
The stakes are real high and you know it. We are in the 8th year of the most secretively corrupt presidencies ever. The Supreme Court presently seats members who voted to stop a recount in Fla's 2000 election, thereby giving * a win that wasn't. This was unconstitutional and those members need to be impeached. Any constitutional law scholars have any insight into this? The Bush team wrongfully took office, declared a mandate (incredible) and began the process of consolidating power in the Executive Branch. By any definition, they dismantled democratic government. They used the Judicial for election fraud and the Legislative they ignored and circumvented when they got in the way. Until 06, Congress stood mute while the Executive churned out signing statements not requiring Congressional approval. They lied us into war. They handed out wasteful defense contracts to their cronies. They fixed intelligence. They concocted phony heroes. They tortured, spied illegally on our citizens and lied, lied, lied. Without winning the WH and a large majority in Congress there is no chance of holding them accountable after the fact. That would be bad citizenry and a pitifully sad thing for our history, I think.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 06:51 PM
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1. Exactly. Fight like your life depends on it. I'm not giving up EVER.
Don't let the bad press define what we know and what we do.
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synapsesfiring Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 07:10 PM
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2. Faint Glimmer of Hope
I have been dismayed at the way the Dems have acted since gaining power in 2006. They promised a lot but backed down instead. NOW, those in the House have openly defied the Bush Regime by passing a bill that does not grant telecoms retroactive immunity. This issue is at the the heart of the calculated "firewall" this Regime has constructed since taking office. It turns out that domestic spying started months BEFORE 9/11 and no one knows the depth or scope of the warrantless wiretapping in the U.S. The reason why Courts have not exercised their power as the Third CO-EQUAL branch of Government is because the Regime has repeatedly invoked the "states secret" privilege to have lawsuits dismissed. This privilege is essentially the Regime saying: "we can't argue this case because to do so would bring national security secrets out into the open, so you just have to believe us when we say there are no laws being broken."

The HUGE problem with this rationale is the proven record of deception by this Administration. For example, the Top 3 reasons we went to war in Iraq: vast stockpile of WMDs; connection between al-qaeda and Saddam Hussein; and vague implications to the attacks of 9/11. ALL 3 have been disproven... by our Government nonetheless! Pentagon reports and other agencies have concluded that there were virtually no WMDs; there was no al-qaeda in Iraq before we invaded; and there are not facts tying Saddam Hussein to the attacks on 9/11. *For more lies perpetrated by the Bush Regime, find a report released by the Center for Public Integrity (http://www.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/) that counted 935 false statements during the past 7 years.

If the Congress is truly interested in the pursuit of truth and of having a Government that is conducted by ALL 3 CO-EQUAL BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT, then we must allow the Courts to look into these key issues like domestic eavesdropping. So, stick to your guns Democrats and all of us in the public domain should express our support for truth, freedom and honesty!
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